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Post by JuliusHMarx Thu 03 Sep 2015, 10:21 am

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Post by It Must Be Love Thu 03 Sep 2015, 10:38 pm

bogbrush wrote:
It Must Be Love wrote:Just started watching now.

Bogbrush, is Murray playing better than Nadal did yesterday ?
Hmmmm

No, not better. More to his game though.

From what I've seen so far Murray's playing a lot better than Nadal did yesterday; but I suppose I didn't catch the first 2 sets. Murray seems really pumped.

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Post by Guest Thu 03 Sep 2015, 10:38 pm

Gave up watching as it was painful viewing.

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Post by bogbrush Thu 03 Sep 2015, 10:40 pm

Murray is absurdly fit.
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Post by It Must Be Love Thu 03 Sep 2015, 10:41 pm

Murray is so so fast, surely the quickest player on tour atm.

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Post by Guest Thu 03 Sep 2015, 10:42 pm

3/18 BPs. That is horrific by his standards

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Post by LuvSports! Thu 03 Sep 2015, 10:43 pm

No chance.

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Post by bogbrush Thu 03 Sep 2015, 10:46 pm

Dr Ivo in final set TB.


Not any more he isn't. No isner / Ivo match....... sadly


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Post by Guest82 Thu 03 Sep 2015, 10:47 pm

Be surprised if Mannarino wins another game here. Definitely can't see him troubling Murray from here on.

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Post by bogbrush Thu 03 Sep 2015, 10:48 pm

'Tis the modern game.
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Post by It Must Be Love Thu 03 Sep 2015, 10:49 pm

bogbrush wrote:No isner / Ivo match....... sadly
Have you heard of stick tennis ?

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Post by Guest Thu 03 Sep 2015, 10:53 pm

Shame there isn't a choke valve for tennis players!

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Post by CaledonianCraig Thu 03 Sep 2015, 10:53 pm

Just now I'd settle for Murray managing to protect that long run of slam QF's in slams he has entered.
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Post by It Must Be Love Thu 03 Sep 2015, 10:55 pm

If Murray loses early here, it'll be another year in his row where his best slam performances have come at the French Open.

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Post by Guest Thu 03 Sep 2015, 10:56 pm

Eh? He reached the AO final this year!

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Post by It Must Be Love Thu 03 Sep 2015, 10:57 pm

legendkillarV2 wrote:Eh? He reached the AO final this year!
Yes, but I personally thought he was stronger in the French Open. He took Djokovic to 5 in the French, but collapsed in 4 sets at the Aus Open. I said performances, not results in that post.

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Post by HM Murdock Thu 03 Sep 2015, 10:59 pm

Tonight is a perfect example of why the equal prize money debate should be nothing to do with 5 sets vs 3 sets.

Best of 5 in this case is not Murray having to work harder for his money. Tonight, bo5 was his lifeline to larger winnings because he would have been knocked out in bo3.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Thu 03 Sep 2015, 11:04 pm

It Must Be Love wrote:
legendkillarV2 wrote:Eh? He reached the AO final this year!
Yes, but I personally thought he was stronger in the French Open. He took Djokovic to 5 in the French, but collapsed in 4 sets at the Aus Open. I said performances, not results in that post.

I'd agree with that It Must Be Love.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Thu 03 Sep 2015, 11:09 pm

Murray takes the fourth set and back level at two sets all.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Thu 03 Sep 2015, 11:11 pm

Well for once I agree with Greg on Sky Sports. Murray found himself in the predicament because Mannerino was playing well and he was playing too deep and not coming forward (too passive I think we can take that as). Plus (in my opinion) his service returns were very poor.
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Post by bogbrush Thu 03 Sep 2015, 11:15 pm

But it's not been changed by a switch in play but by the other guy running out of gas.
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Post by temporary21 Thu 03 Sep 2015, 11:18 pm

This is a shame for mannarino. It happened to him against Lopez too. This is what all those hours of work are for

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Post by temporary21 Thu 03 Sep 2015, 11:19 pm

The change has Been just not giving up. Some of the points in the third were magic.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Thu 03 Sep 2015, 11:23 pm

temporary21 wrote:The change has Been just not giving up. Some of the points in the third were magic.

I'd agree with that. Murray has dug himself out of a hole playing in second gear in stifling hot conditions - that deserves credit though his level of play has not been what I want to see. Too passive sadly.
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Post by greengoblin Thu 03 Sep 2015, 11:26 pm

bogbrush wrote:'Tis the modern game.

I know, it's a pity

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Post by bogbrush Thu 03 Sep 2015, 11:30 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
temporary21 wrote:The change has Been just not giving up. Some of the points in the third were magic.

I'd agree with that. Murray has dug himself out of a hole playing in second gear in stifling hot conditions - that deserves credit though his level of play has not been what I want to see. Too passive sadly.
Because of stifling conditions? Or at least aided by?

I'm cheesed off with Murray really, he's getting less aggressive it seems.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Thu 03 Sep 2015, 11:31 pm

Murray wins in five sets. Must do a heck of a lot better. Belluci next.
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Post by temporary21 Thu 03 Sep 2015, 11:34 pm

Sometimes you just have to grit your teeth and fight. That typifies tennis perfectly. You can play two perfect sets but you'll lose if you don't play another. It's a game of consustency and fight. We can't be annoyed at Andy doing the work off court and being tough enough to get it done when playing badly

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Post by CaledonianCraig Thu 03 Sep 2015, 11:36 pm

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CaledonianCraig wrote:
temporary21 wrote:The change has Been just not giving up. Some of the points in the third were magic.

I'd agree with that. Murray has dug himself out of a hole playing in second gear in stifling hot conditions - that deserves credit though his level of play has not been what I want to see. Too passive sadly.
Because of stifling conditions? Or at least aided by?

I'm cheesed off with Murray really, he's getting less aggressive it seems.

I agree with regards the aggression. However, your first point I disagree with. He had the balls to dig himself out of a hole despite playing nowhere near his best. I can't think of many players out there who could do that so that merits credit.
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Post by temporary21 Thu 03 Sep 2015, 11:42 pm

He wasn't playing very well. But he didn't just throw in the towel. He threw himself at everything just to see if he could buy enough time to throw off his opponent. Ultimately his opponent wasn't good enough And had t done enough work off court.  Murray forced a better level from him

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Post by Born Slippy Thu 03 Sep 2015, 11:50 pm

Sometimes you have to win ugly. Murray tends to be insipid in hot conditions so just pleased he came through. A better performance against TB would be most helpful to his chances!

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Post by Born Slippy Fri 04 Sep 2015, 12:23 am

Hewitt was 2 sets and a break down. Now a break up in the 4th. He cant do it can he?

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Post by bogbrush Fri 04 Sep 2015, 12:47 am

Fed takes a 2nd serve right on the service line again.

Very smooth. 6-1
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Post by bogbrush Fri 04 Sep 2015, 12:57 am

33 minutes in, 6-1, 3-0
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Post by temporary21 Fri 04 Sep 2015, 1:01 am

Unbelievable. Hewitt is serving to take it to a fifth with tomic having served for it!

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Post by bogbrush Fri 04 Sep 2015, 1:08 am

Born Slippy wrote:Hewitt was 2 sets and a break down. Now a break up in the 4th. He cant do it can he?
Now there's a guy who knows how to fight!!
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Post by temporary21 Fri 04 Sep 2015, 1:18 am

Still on serve, Tomic 2-1 up

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Post by bogbrush Fri 04 Sep 2015, 1:24 am

Federer serving up a treat here, such variety.
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Post by temporary21 Fri 04 Sep 2015, 1:35 am

HEWITT BREAKS 4-3

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Post by bogbrush Fri 04 Sep 2015, 1:36 am

Oh yes!

C'MON!!
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Post by temporary21 Fri 04 Sep 2015, 1:45 am

5-4 but 15-30

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Post by temporary21 Fri 04 Sep 2015, 1:47 am

NO! its 5-5 in the fifth...

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Post by summerblues Fri 04 Sep 2015, 1:47 am

Nice and easy for Roger.

Normally I would be disappointed that Andy did not lose but I am going to the USO this Saturday and it works out better for me if he is there.

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Post by bogbrush Fri 04 Sep 2015, 1:48 am

"Most night match wins in U.S. History"

Not sure how that stacks up to 17, 302, etc picard
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Post by bogbrush Fri 04 Sep 2015, 1:49 am

The absence of wind is a big plus for Roger.
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Post by temporary21 Fri 04 Sep 2015, 1:57 am

Tomic gets it 7-5

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Post by summerblues Fri 04 Sep 2015, 1:58 am

Tomic wins.

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Post by temporary21 Fri 04 Sep 2015, 2:02 am

Well right now there only looks 2 candidates for the final. To Muzzahs credit he still at least has the liberty of worrying about it.

A fitting send off for LLeyton, he and Muzz are the kings of the comeback.

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Post by summerblues Fri 04 Sep 2015, 2:12 am

temporary21 wrote:Well right now there only looks 2 candidates for the final.
I did not see Andy play but an early round 5-setter does not need to mean much.  Nole had to come back from 0-2 against Anderson at Wimbledon and in the end won it comfortably.

From the bottom half I can see any of Federer, Andy or Stan advancing.  Would be very surprised by anyone else.

From the top half I would be surprised if anyone beat Nole (though I am hoping for Seppi tomorrow).

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Post by kingraf Fri 04 Sep 2015, 6:44 am

Not too often Nike get both Federer and Nadal's gear just right during a Major. This is one of those times. Nike is on fire. THat Federer chap isn't playing too badly himself, although his shorts seem t be getting to Rafa territory.
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