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Post by JuliusHMarx Mon 07 Sep 2015, 1:11 pm

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Post by temporary21 Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:19 pm

Well that's s great volley. Hs been given the chance to do it though. Follows it with a fh dump.  Murray has to do something now

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Post by Born Slippy Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:20 pm

First bad miss from Andy. Shouldn't have let Kev out of that game.

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Post by temporary21 Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:21 pm

Nope. Murray limply dumps his one shot designed to hurt Kevin into the net...

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Post by ZZ Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:23 pm

usual passive rubbish from murray. kev running all the points and murray just bunting it back wayting for mistakes.

Big nose will thrash him. hope stan can find some form.

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Post by ZZ Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:26 pm

muzza playing every shot from 5m behind the basline

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Post by temporary21 Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:27 pm

I don't think he's read the situation this match. There's a time for defends s d a time for attack. Someone in this mood you've gotta push him back. Once he's nervous you start to ask questions. He's given kev the balls to get in a groove

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Post by ZZ Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:27 pm

pathetic

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Post by ZZ Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:29 pm

temporary21 wrote:I don't think he's read the situation this match. There's a time for defends s d a time for attack. Someone in this mood you've gotta push him back. Once he's nervous you start to ask questions. He's given kev the balls to get in a groove

exactly. hes let kev dictate. way too passive. not stepped in and taken the ball on at all.

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Post by summerblues Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:29 pm

This is all Kev now. Murray needed to keep the second set much closer to make Kev feel the pressure.

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Post by summerblues Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:30 pm

Looks like Kev is feeling the pressure anyway - DF.

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Post by temporary21 Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:32 pm

In not against letting someone self destruct. It's the wrong call this match. Kevin's a different player now he nearly beat novak and Andy should have recognised  the way he was hitting and serving that this was no mook who was gonna blow up. This was a match he needed to take it on.  

If kev can tie the bow on the match it'll be fully deserved though. I feel a semi final brewing

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Post by bogbrush Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:34 pm

Hmmmm doubles..........
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Post by ZZ Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:35 pm

theres always the chance that kev could choke but muzza needs to keep it close for that to happen.

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Post by ZZ Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:36 pm

kevs tightening up, choke?

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Post by Born Slippy Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:38 pm

Good game from Andy. Very frustrating he lost the previous game from 40-0. As it is, still very much an uphill struggle.

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Post by summerblues Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:38 pm

Well, one break back. Is it too late to salvage the set? Kevin looked nervous in that game - even at 5:1.

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Post by temporary21 Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:39 pm

A minor fart. But he's got another service.

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Post by summerblues Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:40 pm

Yeah, one would think it is too late for Andy in this set. But crazier things happened.

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Post by temporary21 Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:42 pm

It happened with cilic. Tbh I want kev to win it be a yravesty if he didn't

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Post by Born Slippy Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:43 pm

Temp - how exactly should he be more aggressive. Is it the 115 mph second serve bombs he should be crushing or the bullets coming back at him on to the baseline on return?

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Post by laverfan Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:43 pm

Murray is playing $h1t3. The Defensive mind-set to the fore. I would not be surprised if Murray lost today.

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Post by temporary21 Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:46 pm

The bolleyd are coming through his court positioning. His lack of 1st serves an issue.  I'm not saying it would be enough, but it would help

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Post by temporary21 Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:47 pm

Oh no... Not like this...

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Post by temporary21 Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:47 pm

Passive return Murray.  Kevin isn't going throw away in the clutch

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Post by temporary21 Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:50 pm

Wasted every deuce he's had...  Enough thete to suggest this may go 4 but Murray not deserving of a set all

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Post by summerblues Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:51 pm

That was very nervy from Kevin. So Andy needs to come back from two sets down again, but those last two Kev's service games should give him some encouragement - Kevin looks like he will find it difficult to cross the finish line.

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Post by laverfan Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:53 pm

summerblues wrote:That was very nervy from Kevin.  So Andy needs to come back from two sets down again, but those last two Kev's service games should give him some encouragement - Kevin looks like he will find it difficult to cross the finish line.

You looking for miracles today, SB!

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Post by summerblues Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:53 pm

They showed a stat here on FH winners (not sure if the whole match or the set only):

Kevin - 12
Andy - 0

Sums it up.

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Post by summerblues Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:54 pm

laverfan wrote:You looking for miracles today, SB!
Well, if I were to bet from here, I would also pick Kevin. Undeniably, things are looking bleak for Andy. But there are some silver linings.

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Post by temporary21 Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:54 pm

Bs I sense you feel were focusing on muzz. But like fed and the others, Murray is the better player on paper, hence this match is about what's levs doing right but also what murrays done wrong. He's chosen the wrong option he chose the absolute wrong times to be reactive, levs better than that now

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Post by Born Slippy Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:55 pm

Just got to hold it together here Andy. I am the first to criticise him for being too passive but that hasn't been the case here. He's playing a very high quality match.

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Post by Born Slippy Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:57 pm

No Temp. Sorry, but you are reading this match totally wrong. There is no way Murray could be any more aggressive given the way Kev has played this match.

Absolute joke how long Murray has been kept waiting here by the way.

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Post by Born Slippy Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:58 pm

What the f is going on here? That's one of the worst calls of all time.

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Post by Born Slippy Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:59 pm

Followed by another joke net cord.

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Post by Guest82 Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:59 pm

I think either Murray folds now and loses 6-1 or something or he comes back and takes it in five.

I think he'll come back.

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Post by Born Slippy Tue 08 Sep 2015, 12:01 am

79% returns in play from one of the worst returners on tour? Just unreal.

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Post by temporary21 Tue 08 Sep 2015, 12:01 am

One question. Would novak have let that happen? Probably not

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Post by bogbrush Tue 08 Sep 2015, 12:01 am

Woah!
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Post by Born Slippy Tue 08 Sep 2015, 12:02 am

That is taking the absolute biscuit.

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Post by temporary21 Tue 08 Sep 2015, 12:02 am

That Was. Great return, it's what came before though...

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Post by LuvSports! Tue 08 Sep 2015, 12:05 am

Well Novak almost lost to KA temp. 

BTW anderson isn't an awful returner. Top 50 according to the stats.

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Post by Born Slippy Tue 08 Sep 2015, 12:08 am

Top 50 lol. He's returned like Agassi today.

118mph second serve bp down, after a double fault.

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Post by Guest82 Tue 08 Sep 2015, 12:09 am

Game over. Murray in five

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Post by temporary21 Tue 08 Sep 2015, 12:09 am

True but he did take it to 2 tiebreaks

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Post by temporary21 Tue 08 Sep 2015, 12:09 am

That's a little better. Some pressure to the net and has a thread again

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Post by summerblues Tue 08 Sep 2015, 12:16 am

Murray still in it. Taking three straight sets off Kevin is not inconceivable.

Also, Kevin has been having difficulty holding his serve lately - had trouble his last three service games.


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Post by temporary21 Tue 08 Sep 2015, 12:16 am

and look what its done to Anderson...

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Post by temporary21 Tue 08 Sep 2015, 12:17 am

LOOK WHATS ITS DONE TO ANDERSON

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Post by Born Slippy Tue 08 Sep 2015, 12:18 am

Brilliant from Andy. Held his form together incredibly in the face of this barrage from Anderson.

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Post by summerblues Tue 08 Sep 2015, 12:20 am

Kevin showing nerves from 5:1 up in the second. Plenty of DFs, broken three times in four service games (and struggled to hold in the other one too).

Let's see how he handles it from here. Murray will not fold.

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