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Scarlets v Ulster 12th September 2015 15:00 Parc y Scarlets

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Post by LordDowlais Wed 09 Sep 2015, 10:59 am

First topic message reminder :

Scarlets have won their last five Guinness PRO12 fixtures since Edinburgh won at Parc y Scarlets on 28th March.

This also represents their only home defeat in the tournament since Boxing Day 2013.

Ulster ended a three game winless streak in the Guinness PRO12 with their 28-6 victory over the Ospreys in Belfast on Friday. The Ulstermen have won three of their last six away games in the tournament.

Scarlets have won just one of their last eight encounters with Ulster in the PRO12: 17-9 in Llanelli on 2 November 2013. Overall the Ulstermen have a won 2, drawn 2, lost 5 record in all competitions at Parc y Scarlets.

At Parc y Scarlets, 3pm.

Referee: Andrew Brace (IRFU, 2nd competition game)
Assistant Referees: Neil Hennessy, Justin Williams (both WRU)
Citing Commissioner: Aurwel Morgan (WRU)
TMO: J Mason (WRU)

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Post by Notch Sat 12 Sep 2015, 3:45 pm

This no-arms low tackle thing seems to be a bugbear. 95% of games it happens and nobody cares. I think this is harsh refereeing on the Scarlets.
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Post by JmD Sat 12 Sep 2015, 3:45 pm

Finally an offside penalty, 10th time lucky.

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Post by neilthom7 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 3:46 pm

I'm afraid the fans in the stadium are wrong it was not the ref cheating but a 2nd no arm tackle. Still luckily for Scarlets we have no proper frontline kicker

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Post by Notch Sat 12 Sep 2015, 3:46 pm

Some Scarlets fans showing their classy side with the ref again; bad decision, harsh refereeing, calling a referee a cheat- still not ok.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 12 Sep 2015, 3:46 pm

Notch wrote:This no-arms low tackle thing seems to be a bugbear. 95% of games it happens and nobody cares. I think this is harsh refereeing on the Scarlets.

Dan Lydiate is going to be feeling nervous if these tackles are being so heavily scrutinised... Whistle

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Post by JmD Sat 12 Sep 2015, 3:47 pm

It's clearer why that was penalised than the first one, Jake Ball was binned for a similar offence against Ulster last season.

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Post by neilthom7 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 3:47 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
Notch wrote:This no-arms low tackle thing seems to be a bugbear. 95% of games it happens and nobody cares. I think this is harsh refereeing on the Scarlets.

Dan Lydiate is going to be feeling nervous if these tackles are being so heavily scrutinised... Whistle

That depends if he uses his arms or not lol

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 12 Sep 2015, 3:47 pm

Notch wrote:Some Scarlets fans showing their classy side with the ref again; bad decision, harsh refereeing, calling a referee a cheat- still not ok.

You've opened Pandora's box, I expect a 20 page thread now. Laugh

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Post by profitius Sat 12 Sep 2015, 3:50 pm

Ulster don't seem to be at the races. Too many players look a little off colour.
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Post by Notch Sat 12 Sep 2015, 3:50 pm

Believe me Rory, I've seen plenty of Ulster and Irish fans showing disrespect to the referee over the years. If anyone tries to tell you its one set of fans thats bad and one that isn't you should call them out on it. This is classless behaviour regardless of whose fans it is, so it's not a dig at Scarlets and it's not an attempt to tar those who aren't involved either- If people want to twist it into something it isn't, I won't engage. As rugby fans we should police on our side even more than we denounce others!


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Post by ME-109 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 3:52 pm

Interestingly though it is the Welsh TMO who is making the decisions for the ref...i.e he gives the decision to the Ref. So not sure what the issue is. Player breaks the rules its a penalty...

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Post by neilthom7 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 3:53 pm

Ulster are just off the boil there is no leadership or direction on the field and the breakdown play is poor. We are really missing a controlling 9 or 10 out there

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 12 Sep 2015, 3:55 pm

profitius wrote:Ulster don't seem to be at the races. Too many players look a little off colour.

I think we are lucky to have Stuart McCloskey on the field, we wouldn't look half as dangerous otherwise.

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Post by Notch Sat 12 Sep 2015, 3:55 pm

neilthom7 wrote:Ulster are just off the boil there is no leadership or direction on the field and the breakdown play is poor. We are really missing a controlling 9 or 10 out there

Yeah Marshall was good last week and now we see what happens when he isn't and we don't have a specialist 10.
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Post by neilthom7 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 3:59 pm

Notch wrote:
neilthom7 wrote:Ulster are just off the boil there is no leadership or direction on the field and the breakdown play is poor. We are really missing a controlling 9 or 10 out there

Yeah Marshall was good last week and now we see what happens when he isn't and we don't have a specialist 10.

Yeah when hes off and no 10 there is no direction the kicks are awful like

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Post by neilthom7 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:04 pm

PETER BROWN mad
What are you doing right in front of the ref

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Post by Notch Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:04 pm

There's just two mindless penalties in a row from Browne. Which just makes it very, very easy.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:04 pm

What on earth was that? Sheer stupidity!

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Post by neilthom7 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:08 pm

This is just shocking from Ulster, giving Scarlets plenty of help here and they don't need it

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Post by JmD Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:08 pm

3 needless mistakes turn a lineout in Scarlets territory into a try. Just woeful

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Post by Notch Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:11 pm

Just thinking we need cool heads and then here comes Nick Williams...
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Post by neilthom7 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:14 pm

Well he's not exactly a UN peacekeeper Big Nick lol We have been completely stupid so far, Nick could be considered a little lucky there

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Post by Pete330v2 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:15 pm

It''s simply a dreadful spectacle of rugby due to Ulster''s input and some pedantic schoolboy refereeing. The Scarlets are the only group of people doing their job and unless there''s a turnaround are very much well worth the win. This is more like Doak''s Ulster unfortunately.

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Post by neilthom7 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:20 pm

Yeyy a try well thats about time but if we pull something out here then we really would be stealing a win. No time off there during the TMO by the way

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Post by JmD Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:23 pm

neilthom7 wrote:Yeyy a try well thats about time but if we pull something out here then we really would be stealing a win.  No time off there during the TMO by the way

Interestingly there was no time off when Scarlets were bringing on a prop after the card in the first half, even though the referee called for it.

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Post by neilthom7 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:25 pm

Yeah I didn't see that JMD but that is interesting wonder what is going on with that?

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Post by Notch Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:27 pm

It wouldn't be the first time a broadcaster is out of sync with the game clock
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Post by Notch Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:30 pm

We just bombed a certain try. You have to laugh.
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Post by JmD Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:31 pm

There's absolutely no benefit to carrying the ball in one hand there, poor fundamentals.

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Post by Notch Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:34 pm

Feck sake McCloskey. All you had to do was pick and go!
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Post by Notch Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:37 pm

Too get a bonus point out of this would be a let off. We're still in with a chance of winning, bizarre.
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Post by JmD Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:42 pm

Has Luke Marshall held on to a single ball today? I count 4 unforced fumbles from him.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:42 pm

The Scarlets look to be taking our title for poor discipline.. Whistle

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Post by Notch Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:43 pm

I've been surprised that the Scarlets have been so poor since their try- we've obviously been abysmal- game has petered out unfortunately.
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Post by JmD Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:45 pm

No advantage from the lineout there? This has to be one of the worst matches in recent memory.

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Post by Notch Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:45 pm

We give away a penalty under the posts to lose the LBP. Fittingly caps off a terrible performance.
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Post by Notch Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:48 pm

Well you have to say the better team won, although there were times in that second half where it seemed to be about who could press the self-destruct button faster. Damage was done in a very one-sided first half and when the Scarlets started to lose their discipline and make poor decisions, we didn't reduce our error count to capitalise on it and make up the lost ground.
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Post by neilthom7 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 4:48 pm

Can't believe we even got that many points today. Well played Scarlets we were shocking

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Post by Guest Sat 12 Sep 2015, 5:02 pm

Well played, scarlets. Fully deserved, and no complaints.

Great start to the season for you.

Ulster were pathetic. Lack of will to win and error count was unacceptable.

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Post by overlordofthewest Sat 12 Sep 2015, 5:04 pm

Scarlets really need to improve on discipline, almost threw that away by giving away penalties. Looks like we're going for a record collection of yellow cards lately. We can complain about it as much as we want but if the players don't stick to the laws and reduce penalty counts we won't be getting the results like we have the last two games. We're 2 from 2 but it could easily be 0 from 2.
Over the moon with the result and the first half performance by and large but Ulster were poor today, loads of errors but were still in it at the end due to our indiscipline. Doubt we'll get let off again.

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Post by marty2086 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 5:19 pm

The usual suspects hurt Ulster today, lack of discipline, execution and leadership

Was surprised at Scholes try, he showed strength to hold of the tacklers and get the ball down and was unlucky when he knocked on thought it should have been a knock on advantage to Ulster

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Post by Pete330v2 Sat 12 Sep 2015, 5:48 pm

That's simply inexcusable from Ulster, it was a defeat entirely of their own making. Headless, brainless, rudderless and unfortunately the Doak bit comes without a less. Last week may well have been the blip of decency amidst Doaky mediocracy.

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Post by Chunky Norwich Sat 12 Sep 2015, 6:12 pm

You can have all the money in the world.

But it doesn't buy you passion and commitment. Excellent stuff. Beer please.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Sat 12 Sep 2015, 6:30 pm

Well Terk'd by the sound of it. Marvelous. 3 cards to zero too.

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Sat 12 Sep 2015, 9:01 pm

Notch wrote:Some Scarlets fans showing their classy side with the ref again; bad decision, harsh refereeing, calling a referee a cheat- still not ok.

Yeah we have no class at all, but your the expert on class aint you.
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Post by ScarletSpiderman Sat 12 Sep 2015, 9:04 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:The Scarlets look to be taking our title for poor discipline.. Whistle

Its got to be a record 6 yellows in only two games. Very poor. And once you start getting a rep it can be hard to shake off. Shocking to think few years back we win the fair play league.
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Post by ScarletSpiderman Sat 12 Sep 2015, 9:06 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:Well Terk'd by the sound of it. Marvelous. 3 cards to zero too.

Three is the magic number
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Post by Cardiff Dave Sat 12 Sep 2015, 9:15 pm

ScarletSpiderman wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:The Scarlets look to be taking our title for poor discipline.. Whistle

Its got to be a record 6 yellows in only two games.  Very poor.  And once you start getting a rep it can be hard to shake off. Shocking to think few years back we win the fair play league.

Dirty Terks.
Well done with the win though and 6 yellows equates to an hour's worth of.....Terking?

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Post by Chunky Norwich Sat 12 Sep 2015, 9:16 pm

ScarletSpiderman wrote:
Notch wrote:Some Scarlets fans showing their classy side with the ref again; bad decision, harsh refereeing, calling a referee a cheat- still not ok.

Yeah we have no class at all, but your the expert on class aint you.

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Post by Notch Sat 12 Sep 2015, 9:18 pm

You obviously didn't read my subsequent comment in your rush to predictable mock outrage Rolling Eyes
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