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Post by pledgeX Thu 17 Sep 2015, 1:37 pm

First topic message reminder :

Not sure if everyone else is already aware, but ITV are showing every single game live for the RWC:
http://www.itv.com/rugbyworldcup/fixtures

Quite impressed with that. I was expecting one game on itv, one game on itv4 and the rest bundled into a late night highlights show. Majority of the games are on ITV as well so that means we get HD and a plus 1 channel (for us poor folk without recording wizardry boxes!).

Just hope their pre and post match stuff is up to scratch, but with so many back to back games and the inevitable reams of adverts, there probably wont be much.




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Post by nathan Fri 18 Sep 2015, 7:15 pm

Risca Rev wrote:Paloma Faith doing World in Union though. Was not a fan

Laura Wright is still hmmmmm

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Post by nathan Fri 18 Sep 2015, 7:20 pm

That opening ceremony so needed Boris

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Post by Guest Fri 18 Sep 2015, 7:25 pm

I wasn't keen on that bloke talking over Laura Wright either.

But god that Paloma Faith version on the intro and the adverts is torture.


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Post by nathan Fri 18 Sep 2015, 7:26 pm

Risca Rev wrote:I wasn't keen on that bloke talking over  Laura Wroght either.

But god that Paloa Faith version on the intro and the adverts is torture.

Thought she sang well, adverts.... agree


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Post by Notch Fri 18 Sep 2015, 7:27 pm

Risca Rev wrote:But god that Paloma Faith version on the intro and the adverts is torture.

It's not good is it. Not much appreciation of what makes a good performance.
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Post by Guest Fri 18 Sep 2015, 7:39 pm

Re. 'past players' wheeled out. Isn't Jacques Burger still playing for Namimbia in this World Cup? I didn't see all teams players but was he the only current one???

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Post by FecklessRogue Fri 18 Sep 2015, 7:47 pm

6 weeks of lame rugby themed adverts for all products and services.
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Post by nathan Fri 18 Sep 2015, 7:51 pm

FecklessRogue wrote:6 weeks of lame rugby themed adverts for all products and services.

On the bright side, 6 weeks of international rugby..

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Post by offload Fri 18 Sep 2015, 7:54 pm

The adverts will drive me mad!!

I'll need to put every game on pause, start watching half an hour late and fast forward through every break. I HATE ITV.
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Post by nathan Fri 18 Sep 2015, 7:55 pm

glad ben kay is on, always like his analysis

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Post by nathan Fri 18 Sep 2015, 7:58 pm

Raining then.... doubt it will be an open game

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Post by Notch Fri 18 Sep 2015, 8:01 pm

Jeez, how many ad breaks can they possibly squeeze in. We're properly spoilt with the BBC having the Six Nations.
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Post by nathan Fri 18 Sep 2015, 8:02 pm

Notch wrote:Jeez, how many ad breaks can they possibly squeeze in. We're properly spoilt with the BBC having the Six Nations.

does make you think what the world would be like without the BBC

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri 18 Sep 2015, 8:50 pm

I was getting in to it with the internationals and then the war dance drowned out with Swing Low. I was brought jarring back to normality by the crammed in two minutes of ad breaks. Just no need for that.

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Post by TJ Fri 18 Sep 2015, 10:55 pm

Absolutely useless commentators - ref explains his decision to the captain - commentator says its something else. Dolly is a nice guy but a useless analyst. Ain't got a clue. Jeepers - i might try the radio commentary next time

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Post by glamorganalun Fri 18 Sep 2015, 11:08 pm

Can't be worse than Sky and is free to watch. It will be interesting if we get all English world cup winners for the Irish hame tomorrow.

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Post by TightHEAD Fri 18 Sep 2015, 11:17 pm

I thought itv did ok to be fair.
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Post by Exiledinborders Fri 18 Sep 2015, 11:29 pm

Does Dallaglio watch the game? England were clearly awarded a scrum. He announces Fiji have the put in. Ben Youngs is standing ready to put the ball into the scrum and Dallaglio is telling us how Fiji are lined behind the attacking scrum.

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Post by SecretFly Fri 18 Sep 2015, 11:33 pm

Yeah I noticed that one but poor Dallaglio just got his colours wrong.... or names..... or Nations.............

He oh so casually corrected himself then later in a "hope you all didn't notice that gaff too much" way. Smooth devil Wink

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Post by R!skysports Fri 18 Sep 2015, 11:48 pm

BamBam wrote:No live TV is even shown in 1080p yet regularly Tighthead, I wouldn't bother unless you're in the market for a new TV anyway

Actually i would still consider it. They now have upscalers that improve the tv even when not broadcast at that level

Mrs used (not any more) for lg and her unbiased view was they are very veey good. Certainly wprth considering amdnif buying a new tv anyway then 100% go for a 4k

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Post by DaveM Sat 19 Sep 2015, 12:04 am

I thought the coverage was ok, but I think the commentators and the pundits should be doing a bit more 'educating'. It might be frustrating for regular rugby fans, but there will be loads of people watching for the first time and they should be taking the opportunity to explain the key concepts without jargon at this stage. There were some attempts, but they weren't very effective.

Later in the tournament the commentators in particular can revert to treating commentating like they do on BT (where of course they are often very good at explaining key aspects of the game, but where they have a more experienced audience).

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Sat 19 Sep 2015, 6:16 am

I thought they might have got a Fijian pundit, if only a touchline pundit, to give a semblance of balance. I'd have had Francois Pienaar in the studio for the same reason.

I was glad it wasn't Miles Harrison commentating.

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Post by nathan Sat 19 Sep 2015, 7:55 am

Riskysports wrote:
BamBam wrote:No live TV is even shown in 1080p yet regularly Tighthead, I wouldn't bother unless you're in the market for a new TV anyway

Actually i would still consider it. They now have upscalers that improve the tv even when not broadcast at that level

Mrs used (not any more) for lg and her unbiased view was they are very veey good. Certainly wprth considering amdnif buying a new tv anyway then 100% go for a 4k

I'd skip this round of 4K and wait for the oled TVs to come out.

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Post by ebop Sat 19 Sep 2015, 9:35 am

During the first half Mullins said in commentary:

"They will be back in Fiji around one television hoping the generator doesn't fail them."

Is this ok?
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Post by IanBru Sat 19 Sep 2015, 11:46 am

ebop wrote:During the first half Mullins said in commentary:

"They will be back in Fiji around one television hoping the generator doesn't fail them."

Is this ok?
Holy crap, I didn't hear that. That's absolutely disgraceful.
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Post by nathan Sat 19 Sep 2015, 11:55 am

IanBru wrote:
ebop wrote:During the first half Mullins said in commentary:

"They will be back in Fiji around one television hoping the generator doesn't fail them."

Is this ok?
Holy crap, I didn't hear that. That's absolutely disgraceful.

Yeah I heard that and thought ooh

Although his full comment ( I'm not sure if this makes it any better) was that in the cities everyone will be watching and in the remote villages everyone will be gathered around a tv powered by a generator

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Post by Cyril Sat 19 Sep 2015, 11:57 am

I heard the generator failed during that bit so they're not the wiser Wink

Seriously though, it's a bit crass even if it's what some of the Fijian players were saying before the game (all huddled round one television, you need to go up a mountain to get reception etc).

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Post by Galted Sat 19 Sep 2015, 12:03 pm

ebop wrote:During the first half Mullins said in commentary:

"They will be back in Fiji around one television hoping the generator doesn't fail them."

Is this ok?

No he didn't, he said they'll be watching in the larger cities and in the villages they'd be gathered around one television hoping the generator doesn't fail them.

Probably not entirely inaccurate, during any significant sporting event (and also during rugby world cups) poorer people in poorer countries such as Fiji, Zimbabwe and New Zealand tend to gather around the lone television set in the village so that they can vicariously live their lives through the people they see on the screen.  If they've had previous experience of failing generators they tend to hope that the generator doesn't fail.
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Post by tigertattie Sat 19 Sep 2015, 12:08 pm

Are the kick offs getting delayed until ITV squeeze in another advert or are we watching the game 1 min after the live kickoff ???
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Post by Galted Sat 19 Sep 2015, 12:12 pm

tigertattie wrote:Are the kick offs getting delayed until ITV squeeze in another advert or are we watching the game 1 min after the live kickoff ???

I think they're going to extend the half-time breaks to fit in more Jack Whitehall inanity with the 2003 England side.
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Post by WELL-PAST-IT Sat 19 Sep 2015, 2:55 pm

I am going to watch the games live and listen to the radio commentary. Adverts are ideal for having a pee and getting more beer.

But I agree with offload, I HATE ITV.

Only watch it once every 4 years when they get the RWC to show
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Post by tigertattie Mon 21 Sep 2015, 11:40 am

worse still! I'll end up missing the France game on Wednesday cause ITV have a bloody 1 hour long corronation street special on that that time!!!!!!
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Post by SecretFly Mon 21 Sep 2015, 12:10 pm

ITV - they just always seem to want to .... turn everything into a gameshow, with the door-to-door ex-Butlins entertainer salesman for 'anchor'.


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Post by bedfordwelsh Mon 21 Sep 2015, 12:13 pm

tigertattie wrote:worse still! I'll end up missing the France game on Wednesday cause ITV have a bloody 1 hour long corronation street special on that that time!!!!!!

Wont it be on ITV4?
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Post by R!skysports Mon 21 Sep 2015, 12:18 pm

Galted wrote:
ebop wrote:During the first half Mullins said in commentary:

"They will be back in Fiji around one television hoping the generator doesn't fail them."

Is this ok?

No he didn't, he said they'll be watching in the larger cities and in the villages they'd be gathered around one television hoping the generator doesn't fail them.

Probably not entirely inaccurate, during any significant sporting event (and also during rugby world cups) poorer people in poorer countries such as Fiji, Zimbabwe and New Zealand tend to gather around the lone television set in the village so that they can vicariously live their lives through the people they see on the screen.  If they've had previous experience of failing generators they tend to hope that the generator doesn't fail.


lol

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Post by Pete330v2 Mon 21 Sep 2015, 12:19 pm

I tend to ignore the adverts or go for a visit to the head at that point, the commentary is at least entertaining at times but you never do rely on commentary teams as a source of all seeing wisdom. I have had just about enough of Paloma Faith's whiney voice giving it loads before and after every break, it's now just irritating in the extreme. I do like a lot of her material by the way, just not this out of context overkill.

Mind you the international rugby does override all the above complaints as it's been brilliant despite that TMO lad that butts in more than Paloma Faith.

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Post by Scottrf Mon 21 Sep 2015, 1:00 pm

Riskysports wrote:lol
You have to hope he's joking...

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Post by milkyboy Mon 21 Sep 2015, 3:32 pm

SecretFly wrote:ITV - they just always seem to want to .... turn everything into a gameshow, with the door-to-door ex-Butlins entertainer salesman for 'anchor'.


Johnny do you think england can win the world cup? 'I don't know' 'would you like to phone a friend or ask the audience?'. So Sir Clive, we asked 'can england win the world cup?' You said, 'yes they can', our survey said 'nah nah'.  

Inverdale may be smug, adverts may be annoying, but someone said it earlier. No Stuart Barnes. Frankly they could get the cast of coronation street to commentate and have louis walsh as a half time summariser... saying that all the players were just like a little lenny henry.... and still have credit in my book for not hiring that t*sspot.

I actually think the coverage has been ok.

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Post by SecretFly Mon 21 Sep 2015, 4:09 pm

milkyboy wrote:
SecretFly wrote:ITV - they just always seem to want to .... turn everything into a gameshow, with the door-to-door ex-Butlins entertainer salesman for 'anchor'.


Johnny do you think england can win the world cup? 'I don't know' 'would you like to phone a friend or ask the audience?'. So Sir Clive, we asked 'can england win the world cup?' You said, 'yes they can', our survey said 'nah nah'.  

Inverdale may be smug, adverts may be annoying, but someone said it earlier. No Stuart Barnes. Frankly they could get the cast of coronation street to commentate and have louis walsh as a half time summariser... saying that all the players were just like a little lenny henry.... and still have credit in my book for not hiring that t*sspot.

I actually think the coverage has been ok.

Hmmmm......................... you see ......................... you see when Stuart didn't get the ITV gig, he had to go somewhere. The World needed his voice somewhere, he's Mr Rugby. And he Did go somewhere........................ Whistle

So thanks a bunch ITV...hire Inverdale and say to Barnes, "You're a free agent, I'm afraid, Barnsey. Check over in them Ireland parts of the world, they might have need for you."

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Post by milkyboy Mon 21 Sep 2015, 4:29 pm

no! They didn't? Surely not? We get Guinness and the Irish get bitter.

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Post by SecretFly Mon 21 Sep 2015, 4:58 pm

'Fraid so. Luckily enough I'm not one of those people who get a cold shiver when Barnes speaks so all is still right with the world.

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Post by Cyril Mon 21 Sep 2015, 7:21 pm

I think Barnes is one of those individuals who is more annoying if you're unlucky enough to share nationality with him (he did go to school in Wales though Wink).

Barnes loves the Irish. He practically wets himself during the European Cup when Munster or Leinster are playing.

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Post by Jimpy Tue 22 Sep 2015, 8:31 am

Lots of faux indignance about the coverage.

1. Its on ITV, get over it. Adverts are part of the package.
2. It doesn't matter how much you bleat, the competition is in England (mainly), who have won a World cup, and the commentators are more than entitled to mention it.
3. Inverdale may annoy you, but he's also part of the package. See highlighted text in 1 above.

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Post by Gooseberry Tue 22 Sep 2015, 8:37 am

nathan wrote:
IanBru wrote:
ebop wrote:During the first half Mullins said in commentary:

"They will be back in Fiji around one television hoping the generator doesn't fail them."

Is this ok?
Holy crap, I didn't hear that. That's absolutely disgraceful.

Yeah I heard that and thought ooh

Although his full comment ( I'm not sure if this makes it any better) was that in the cities everyone will be watching and in the remote villages everyone will be gathered around a tv powered by a generator

It was also based on what one of the players Fijian players said pre match

Lets not get offended on other peoples behalf

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Post by SecretFly Tue 22 Sep 2015, 9:32 am

Jimpy wrote:Lots of faux indignance about the coverage.

1. Its on ITV, get over it. Adverts are part of the package.
2. It doesn't matter how much you bleat, the competition is in England (mainly), who have won a World cup, and the commentators are more than entitled to mention it.
3. Inverdale may annoy you, but he's also part of the package. See highlighted text in 1 above.

This site is built on the very Noble Principles of Faux Indignation. You want to kill off this site?

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Post by TJ Tue 22 Sep 2015, 9:35 am

I wouldn't mind the rest of the package if the TV cameras didn't cut away from the game when there is action on the filed, if the commentators didn't talk over the ref when he is talking to players / linesmen and if the commentators actually knew what was happening on the field. But they don't. Next game I am going to try radio commentary

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Post by Jimpy Tue 22 Sep 2015, 9:38 am

SecretFly wrote:
Jimpy wrote:Lots of faux indignance about the coverage.

1. Its on ITV, get over it. Adverts are part of the package.
2. It doesn't matter how much you bleat, the competition is in England (mainly), who have won a World cup, and the commentators are more than entitled to mention it.
3. Inverdale may annoy you, but he's also part of the package. See highlighted text in 1 above.

This site is built on the very Noble Principles of Faux Indignation.  You want to kill off this site?

No, just some posters....

But you're right. Still, no amount of carping on will change things now.


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Post by Jimpy Tue 22 Sep 2015, 9:40 am

TJ wrote:I wouldn't mind the rest of the package if the TV cameras didn't cut away from the game when there is action on the filed, if the commentators didn't talk over the ref when he is talking to players / linesmen and if the commentators actually knew what was happening on the field.  But they don't.  Next game I am going to try radio commentary

You'll find there's a delay between radio commentary and TV pictures unfortunately.

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Post by milkyboy Tue 22 Sep 2015, 10:33 am

SecretFly wrote:'Fraid so.  Luckily enough I'm not one of those people who get a cold shiver when Barnes speaks so all is still right with the world.

Your credibility is shot to pieces in my household now SF, though I imagine you can probably live with that!

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Post by TJ Tue 22 Sep 2015, 11:21 am

Jimpy wrote:
TJ wrote:I wouldn't mind the rest of the package if the TV cameras didn't cut away from the game when there is action on the filed, if the commentators didn't talk over the ref when he is talking to players / linesmen and if the commentators actually knew what was happening on the field.  But they don't.  Next game I am going to try radio commentary

You'll find there's a delay between radio commentary and TV pictures unfortunately.

Dagnamit!

I wish they would provide a clean feed ie just pics, on field mikes etc but no commentary. the commentators really spoil it for me with their constant mistakes and talking over the ref

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