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Post by No9 Sun 04 Oct 2015, 12:34 pm

First topic message reminder :

For English fans only, for obvious reasons...

Which BRITISH team now gets your support...

Don't forget:


...and don't forget how you lambast us Welsh and Scots for supporting any team other than England...


Be honest...

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Post by R!skysports Mon 05 Oct 2015, 7:19 am

As a Scotsman I was actually gutted to see England go out. Was looking forward to a s vs e final

A related question. How many of the English fans do you think will now sell their tickets. Or will I still go to the matches.

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Post by Hood83 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 7:55 am

Will support all the NH teams, including Japan (which is NH, right?!). I've had some VERY smug Welsh mates the last few days, but I'm sure I'd have been the same, so I'll support Home Nations first, then Ireland, then France. Unless any of them come up against Japan, in which case I may have to support those guys as the underdogs.

To be honest, if Oz just keep playing great rugby I'll have a soft spot for them too.

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Post by Fanster Mon 05 Oct 2015, 10:01 am

I know of a few quarter final tickets just popped up for sale, at face value...

Willing to bet over the next week or so a lot more go up for sale on the regular touty type sites.

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Post by IanBru Mon 05 Oct 2015, 10:02 am

I don't like being called 'jock' as it's often intended in the pejorative sense.

However, if I'm offended, nothing actually happens.

To quote a comedian, can't remember who: "Well yesterday, this man made a joke about the Lord, and I was offended, and when I woke up I had leprosy!"

To the matter at hand, if England supporters want to support Scotland, that's nice. I don't expect it, and I wouldn't be returning the favour if I'm honest. I had a discussion (OK, a mild argument) with a woman in the St James' fan zone about why I wasn't supporting 'my own' against Australia, and she seemed rather surprised when I replied that, in a sporting context at least, England aren't 'my own'. They're just another team.
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Post by Fanster Mon 05 Oct 2015, 10:05 am

Infact just had a look on ebay, quarter final 1 and 4 tickets are the entire first page...

And some at silly prices, £500, £600 and £800 versions, I don't think they've taken into account the flood of tickets hitting the market right now, I think if you hold out until after the weekend those prices would be reduced pretty heavily.

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Post by TightHEAD Mon 05 Oct 2015, 10:40 am

I hope Ireland and France do well.
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Post by screamingaddabs Mon 05 Oct 2015, 11:34 am

I live in Glasgow and have Scottish family, so this was easy. Of course it does just mean that I will have to support someone else once Scotland go out in the quarters...
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Post by rodders Mon 05 Oct 2015, 11:59 am

Fanster wrote:
Weirdly I have a number of Northern Irish friends

Yea that is weird - what do you want to be associating with that lot for?
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Post by Steffan Mon 05 Oct 2015, 12:03 pm

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Fanster wrote:
Weirdly I have a number of Northern Irish friends

Yea that is weird - what do you want to be associating with that lot for?
I was seeing a girl from Antrim for a few months. That was bad enough...especially our phone conversations where she needed a translator as her accent was so strong. Belfast was always a good crack though

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Post by Pal Joey Mon 05 Oct 2015, 12:26 pm

whocares wrote:Is Jock really worst than say Paddy, Taff , scouser etc? If that's deemed offensive (let alone racist) god knows what Frog is meant to be and I couldnt really give a flying feck about it Smile

Try chain-dragger, convict, ocker, Bruce, dingbat, bogan, drongo, gubba, roo-phucker.

But that's OK. Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.
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Post by TJ Mon 05 Oct 2015, 12:29 pm

No9 wrote:picard

There was no racial intention in using the term Jock or Taff, and being a Welshman myself, I hope that can be seen as genuine...

Therefore, if there is any offence taken, please accept my apologies. If the terms offend any fellow Welshmen or any Scottish please report the thread, where I hope a Mod can change the term on the poll to a less offensive term, or failing that remove the thread.


I think it was clear you were being amusing or attempting to be. Context is all. Dinnae fret.

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Post by Steffan Mon 05 Oct 2015, 12:30 pm

The Loaded Dog wrote:
whocares wrote:Is Jock really worst than say Paddy, Taff , scouser etc? If that's deemed offensive (let alone racist) god knows what Frog is meant to be and I couldnt really give a flying feck about it Smile

Try chain-dragger, convict, ocker, Bruce, dingbat, bogan, drongo, gubba, roo-phucker.

But that's OK. Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.
My boss is an Aussie and I call the shackle-dragger 'Skippy' which caught on real quick

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Post by rodders Mon 05 Oct 2015, 12:33 pm

Steffan wrote:
rodders wrote:
Fanster wrote:
Weirdly I have a number of Northern Irish friends

Yea that is weird - what do you want to be associating with that lot for?
I was seeing a girl from Antrim for a few months. That was bad enough...especially our phone conversations where she needed a translator as her accent was so strong. Belfast was always a good crack though

Could be worse, her da could have been Liam Neeson and you could have got him on the phone.
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Post by Cyril Mon 05 Oct 2015, 3:56 pm

It took me about 3 years to read Shogun so I think I qualify to support Japan.

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Post by rodders Mon 05 Oct 2015, 4:07 pm

Cyril wrote:It took me about 3 years to read Shogun so I think I qualify to support Japan.

They should be thanking you really, they were under big pressure to avoid being the first host nation to miss out on the KO stages in 2020...now that pressure is off they can relax and enjoy the tournament Smile .
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Post by Cyril Mon 05 Oct 2015, 4:10 pm

rodders wrote:
Cyril wrote:It took me about 3 years to read Shogun so I think I qualify to support Japan.

They should be thanking you really, they were under big pressure to avoid being the first host nation to miss out on the KO stages in 2020...now that pressure is off they can relax and enjoy the tournament  Smile .
Anything to help the world of rugby, rodders Smile

You could have broken it to me more gently though. 5 more years until the next World Cup? As Tom Petty informed us, the waiting is the hardest part Sad

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Post by rodders Mon 05 Oct 2015, 4:21 pm

Cyril wrote:
rodders wrote:
Cyril wrote:It took me about 3 years to read Shogun so I think I qualify to support Japan.

They should be thanking you really, they were under big pressure to avoid being the first host nation to miss out on the KO stages in 2020...now that pressure is off they can relax and enjoy the tournament  Smile .
Anything to help the world of rugby, rodders Smile

You could have broken it to me more gently though. 5 more years until the next World Cup? As Tom Petty informed us, the waiting is the hardest part Sad

It will fly in... before you know it Lancaster and Farrell will be selecting their Lions squad for NZ.. Smile
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Post by Bathman_in_London Mon 05 Oct 2015, 4:26 pm

Cyril wrote:It took me about 3 years to read Shogun so I think I qualify to support Japan.

Ha! Its a monster all right, as are all his books in fact. Anyway I like sushi so that's how I qualify for them, it makes more sense than the grandparent rule...

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Post by Cyril Mon 05 Oct 2015, 4:28 pm

rodders wrote:
Cyril wrote:
rodders wrote:
Cyril wrote:It took me about 3 years to read Shogun so I think I qualify to support Japan.

They should be thanking you really, they were under big pressure to avoid being the first host nation to miss out on the KO stages in 2020...now that pressure is off they can relax and enjoy the tournament  Smile .
Anything to help the world of rugby, rodders Smile

You could have broken it to me more gently though. 5 more years until the next World Cup? As Tom Petty informed us, the waiting is the hardest part Sad

It will fly in... before you know it Lancaster and Farrell will be selecting their Lions squad for NZ.. Smile
Laugh Well, after all the kerfuffle of the last tour, with current coaches etc, those guys had to get out of their contracts somehow. Never was so much owed by so many to so few...

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Post by robbo277 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 5:06 pm

stub wrote:by Griff Today at 6:15 pm
HammerofThunor wrote:

Notch wrote:

If Ireland go out I'll support Argentina if they are still in, even if they put us out. I love their passionate fans and their ambitious philosophy. If both those teams are out I want Australia to win. Just think it's been a long time for them and they play some really quality rugby as well.

I don't understand why people think we must support other Home Unions. I do have a soft spot for Scotland in all things as I lived there and have many close friends there still but apart from that, I don't view it as any different to supporting any other nation. I'm culturally closer to England than Argentina, but I'm just as much not English as I am not Argentinean so why not just base it on which team you like more? When I was growing up I had a mate in Belfast who liked England just because he liked the way they played then. I understand that more. When you're a neutral that matters more than geopolitical proximity! If you're English I don't think you have to support Scotland or Wales just because the UK is a thing.

Pretty much this. I used to support the other home nations over others but life experience has put an end to that.


606v2 experience has put an end to that for me. Sad but true."


Sorry - haven't worked out how to quote other texts on this iPad yet..

For me I can see how it's easy to not support other home nations teams due to the bile that is spouted by certain individuals both on this forum to a lesser degree and via other types of social media to a much greater degree. However I try not to let this affect the way I feel about matters because in a sense that is what these more extreme individuals want - to propagate mutual dislike or perhaps even hatred. So I base my own support on the many positive experiences I have had with friends from Wales, Scotland and Ireland. That is more real to me than some bitter twisted troll sitting at a keyboard somewhere.

Most of it is from my mates posting on Facebook, Twitter, Whatsapp'ing me, basically doing everything short of making a sign and standing in my garden.

It's all banter and I'm not losing any sleep over it, but it will be hard to feel sorry for them if they lose.

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Post by robbo277 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 5:07 pm

Fanster wrote:Infact just had a look on ebay, quarter final 1 and 4 tickets are the entire first page...

And some at silly prices, £500, £600 and £800 versions, I don't think they've taken into account the flood of tickets hitting the market right now, I think if you hold out until after the weekend those prices would be reduced pretty heavily.

I guess the sensible thing would be to wait until the final round of games so Australia, Wales and Scotland fans know which (and in the last case if either) game they want to go to.

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Post by TJ Mon 05 Oct 2015, 5:16 pm

Now supporting ..................Scotland - all the way to the final Wink


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Post by Steffan Mon 05 Oct 2015, 5:17 pm

I hope Wales win the rugby world cup as I am fortunate enough to Welsh. If we don't win it though I would like France to win it

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Post by No9 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 5:32 pm

Cyril wrote:
rodders wrote:
Cyril wrote:It took me about 3 years to read Shogun so I think I qualify to support Japan.

They should be thanking you really, they were under big pressure to avoid being the first host nation to miss out on the KO stages in 2020...now that pressure is off they can relax and enjoy the tournament  Smile .
Anything to help the world of rugby, rodders Smile

You could have broken it to me more gently though. 5 more years until the next World Cup? As Tom Petty informed us, the waiting is the hardest part Sad


Don't worry Cyril... I can guarantee no one will be anywhere near to compete with England in Japan RWC 2020...

Spoiler:
Now if they turn up for Japan RWC 2019, well that's totally different..  Whistle

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Post by Cyril Mon 05 Oct 2015, 5:36 pm

No9 wrote:
Cyril wrote:
rodders wrote:
Cyril wrote:It took me about 3 years to read Shogun so I think I qualify to support Japan.

They should be thanking you really, they were under big pressure to avoid being the first host nation to miss out on the KO stages in 2020...now that pressure is off they can relax and enjoy the tournament  Smile .
Anything to help the world of rugby, rodders Smile

You could have broken it to me more gently though. 5 more years until the next World Cup? As Tom Petty informed us, the waiting is the hardest part Sad


Don't worry Cyril... I can guarantee no one will be anywhere near to compete with England in Japan RWC 2020...

Spoiler:
Now if they turn up for Japan RWC 2019, well that's totally different..  Whistle
I appreciate the spoiler No.9. One wants to be girded for that type of information Smile

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Post by No9 Mon 05 Oct 2015, 5:51 pm

Cyril wrote:
No9 wrote:
Cyril wrote:
rodders wrote:
Cyril wrote:It took me about 3 years to read Shogun so I think I qualify to support Japan.

They should be thanking you really, they were under big pressure to avoid being the first host nation to miss out on the KO stages in 2020...now that pressure is off they can relax and enjoy the tournament  Smile .
Anything to help the world of rugby, rodders Smile

You could have broken it to me more gently though. 5 more years until the next World Cup? As Tom Petty informed us, the waiting is the hardest part Sad


Don't worry Cyril... I can guarantee no one will be anywhere near to compete with England in Japan RWC 2020...

Spoiler:
Now if they turn up for Japan RWC 2019, well that's totally different..  Whistle
I appreciate the spoiler No.9. One wants to be girded for that type of information Smile

Hug

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Post by Steffan Mon 05 Oct 2015, 5:54 pm

While I'm sure its a beautiful country and a lovely language to learn...I refuse to support Japan after what happened to Charlie in 'Black Rain'

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Post by George Carlin Tue 06 Oct 2015, 7:19 am

InjuredYetAgain wrote:
Notch wrote:The Welsh and the Scottish.

And, just to show you how parochial some Scots can be, someone tried to get "Jocks" treated as a racist expression. picard   Some people just have their priorities in life all wrong
Jesus. Really? I expect those people are retired, wealthy, ex-army types with excessive nose and eyebrow hair and a good measure of pent-up rage to supplement their single malt collections. It has never occurred to me to be offended by the term 'jock'. Have I been misunderstanding all these years??

Jock and Paddy are obviously nods to the names and Taff clearly refers to the river which runs through Cardiff and the old dockers who used to work near it. Surely if being British and Irish counts for anything these days it's that we actually have a sense of humour.
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Post by 21st Century Schizoid Man Tue 06 Oct 2015, 8:27 am

No offence taken No9 me old Taffy .   Can we now refer to The Broken Chariot brigade that walked out of Twickenham on Saturday with 15 mins to go as not very nice people?
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Post by Cardiff Dave Thu 08 Oct 2015, 9:38 pm

Steffan wrote:I hope Wales win the rugby world cup as I am fortunate enough to Welsh. If we don't win it though I would like France to win it

Agreed.

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Post by Cyril Thu 08 Oct 2015, 9:54 pm

Reading this thread, I'm SH all the way. Luckily my bets will come in.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Thu 08 Oct 2015, 10:28 pm

Cyril wrote:Reading this thread, I'm SH all the way. Luckily my bets will come in.

If it's an SH final, i'm decorating the living room.

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Post by GavinDragon Fri 09 Oct 2015, 7:18 am

After Wales, I support any NH team.

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Post by 21st Century Schizoid Man Fri 09 Oct 2015, 8:24 am

GavinDragon wrote:After Wales, I support any NH team.

What even Engerland- hypothetically speaking of course Rolling Eyes
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Post by LondonTiger Fri 09 Oct 2015, 8:27 am

I supported Wales against Fiji, Scotland against South Africa - even posting messages of support before the game.

It came as no surprise that the support was not reciprocated by our neighbours however.

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Post by gregortree Fri 09 Oct 2015, 8:31 am

Englishman. With Scottish ancestry so some interest there. But as a rugby fan Australia impressed me the most, so im finding surprising Aussie sympathy in my heart.Stockholm syndrome or something.

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Post by gregortree Fri 09 Oct 2015, 8:33 am

Cardiff Dave wrote:
Cyril wrote:Reading this thread, I'm SH all the way. Luckily my bets will come in.

If it's an SH final, i'm decorating the living room.

What ? Gold, green, black. ? I ll come round when its finished.

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Post by GavinDragon Fri 09 Oct 2015, 8:48 am

Of course England. The 'anyone but England' mentality is sad small minded crap

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Post by Guest Fri 09 Oct 2015, 9:08 am

LondonTiger wrote:I supported Wales against Fiji, Scotland against South Africa - even posting messages of support before the game.

It came as no surprise that the support was not reciprocated by our neighbours however.

Most Welsh people supported Australia v England, to ensure our qualification. Much like there were English supporters at the Wales v Fiji game wearing Fijian flags. I'm surprised you supported Wales v Fiji when it played a small part in England getting knocked out.

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Fri 09 Oct 2015, 9:16 am

Risca Rev wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:I supported Wales against Fiji, Scotland against South Africa - even posting messages of support before the game.

It came as no surprise that the support was not reciprocated by our neighbours however.

Most Welsh people supported Australia v England, to ensure our qualification. Much like there were English supporters at the Wales v Fiji game wearing Fijian flags. I'm surprised you supported Wales v Fiji when it played a small part in England getting knocked out.

Not to mention Chris Evans making a big thing on Radio Two about how everyone should support Fiji against us (nice from a radio station meant to represent us all mind). That said I don't buy this British all in it together line either.

As much as posters on here may say total dog doo about things, all of us have them in our nations. Where I work I have found a lot of the international only type fans attitudes during the RWC really annoying (the amount of supposedly funny England lost email I have had is pathetic). The fact is when Wales are not playing, I will always wanted either the absolute underdog to win (Japan, Namibia, Canada etc), or the team that are trying to play the more attractive rugby.
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Post by LondonTiger Fri 09 Oct 2015, 9:18 am

Risca Rev wrote:
LondonTiger wrote:I supported Wales against Fiji, Scotland against South Africa - even posting messages of support before the game.

It came as no surprise that the support was not reciprocated by our neighbours however.

Most Welsh people supported Australia v England, to ensure our qualification. Much like there were English supporters at the Wales v Fiji game wearing Fijian flags. I'm surprised you supported Wales v Fiji when it played a small part in England getting knocked out.

Why would I want fiji to win the game. I wanted England to qualify from the group by winning matches, not because of other teams failings. So yes I supported Wales.


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Post by LondonTiger Fri 09 Oct 2015, 9:21 am

ScarletSpiderman wrote:The fact is when Wales are not playing, I will always wanted either the absolute underdog to win (Japan, Namibia, Canada etc), or the team that are trying to play the more attractive rugby.  

Glad to see that the attractive rugby clause only applies when Wales are not playing Run

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Fri 09 Oct 2015, 11:42 am

LondonTiger wrote:
ScarletSpiderman wrote:The fact is when Wales are not playing, I will always wanted either the absolute underdog to win (Japan, Namibia, Canada etc), or the team that are trying to play the more attractive rugby.  

Glad to see that the attractive rugby clause only applies when Wales are not playing Run

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Post by Cardiff Dave Fri 09 Oct 2015, 6:54 pm

gregortree wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
Cyril wrote:Reading this thread, I'm SH all the way. Luckily my bets will come in.

If it's an SH final, i'm decorating the living room.

What ? Gold, green, black. ? I ll come round when its finished.

Magfeckinolia again most probably.

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Post by Cyril Sun 18 Oct 2015, 6:05 pm

I'm behind Argentina now.

It's going to be NZ though, isn't it?

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Post by gregortree Sun 18 Oct 2015, 6:12 pm

Scotland ! Oops..

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Post by TJ Sun 18 Oct 2015, 6:15 pm

gregortree wrote:Scotland ! Oops..

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad furious Doh

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Post by Shifty Sun 18 Oct 2015, 6:19 pm

New Zealand at this point simply because if they don't win then they might sack Hansen and ask for Warren Gatland.

Go All Blacks!!!!! Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo Yahoo
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Post by TightHEAD Sun 18 Oct 2015, 7:34 pm

Feck it I'm watching the Aviva from now on.
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Post by Cardiff Dave Sun 18 Oct 2015, 8:06 pm

TightHEAD wrote:Feck it I'm watching the Aviva from now on.

Me too.....whilst decorating.

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