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Post by RubyGuby Tue 13 Oct 2015, 3:32 pm

SOB OUTplayed the French back row on his own this week and whilst he lived on the edge he managed to get away with it most of the time. I particularly liked the way he fell whilst offside and dislodged the ball from the French SH's grasp whilst managing to keep an innocent look. It was a genuine McCawesque performance and one bursting with intensity, skill and passion. Well played Sean.

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Post by rodders Tue 13 Oct 2015, 3:41 pm

OUT- boxed Pape too -Roberto Duran would have been proud of that body shot.. angel
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Post by RubyGuby Tue 13 Oct 2015, 3:44 pm

Barry McGuigan Rodders keep with it Munn!!!

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Post by LondonTiger Tue 13 Oct 2015, 4:00 pm

There was me thinking this thre4ad was a reference to the only film Julie Andrews got her baps out for.

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Post by mikey_dragon Tue 13 Oct 2015, 4:23 pm

Yes Ruby thumbsup.

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Post by majesticimperialman Tue 13 Oct 2015, 4:48 pm

So he should be.

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Post by SecretFly Tue 13 Oct 2015, 5:00 pm

The Hills are Alive?


Anyway... the hills are silent.....

When do these citers actually get around to citing...as in making a conclusion? This is beginning to look like a murder case. Are they looking at the slow motion reels still???? The dirty basterdes!!!! Wink

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Post by LondonTiger Tue 13 Oct 2015, 5:22 pm

SecretFly wrote:The Hills are Alive?


Anyway... the hills are silent.....

When do these citers actually get around to citing...as in making a conclusion?  This is beginning to look like a murder case.  Are they looking at the slow motion reels still????  The dirty basterdes!!!! Wink

Gray and Ford had their meeting at 11:00
SOB at 13:00
Bosch after that.

Probably only release the news when all are finished.

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Post by SecretFly Tue 13 Oct 2015, 5:25 pm

All four reprieved for the good of the gyme ....and because Pocock got off scot free the day before....

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Post by MrsP Tue 13 Oct 2015, 5:28 pm

I just read somewhere that SOB's hearing has lasted longer than Englands RWC 2015 campaign.

I know I shouldn't laugh but....

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Post by ME-109 Tue 13 Oct 2015, 5:29 pm

6pm for the announcement

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Post by Biltong Tue 13 Oct 2015, 5:30 pm

MrsP wrote:I just read somewhere that SOB's hearing has lasted longer than Englands RWC 2015 campaign.

I know I shouldn't laugh but....

All of 320 minutes Laugh
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Post by thebandwagonsociety Tue 13 Oct 2015, 5:37 pm

People are giving SOB too much credit for that collision with Parra.

He was cleared out of the ruck by two french backs who managed to turn SOB 180 degrees and put him onto his back in the exact position that Parra was picking up the ball and running into. Any Irish winger would have cleared the flanker 3 yards down the field on his own and left clean ball for Murray.

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Post by Biltong Tue 13 Oct 2015, 5:40 pm

thebandwagonsociety wrote:People are giving SOB too much credit for that collision with Parra.

He was cleared out of the ruck by two french backs who managed to turn SOB 180 degrees and put him onto his back in the exact position that Parra was picking up the ball and running into.  Any Irish winger would have cleared the flanker 3 yards down the field on his own and left clean ball for Murray.

Watch the reverse angle, he looks at Parra before sweeping with his right arm Wink
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Post by SecretFly Tue 13 Oct 2015, 5:43 pm

Great SH player is O'Brien. Crafty as feck.

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Post by SecretFly Tue 13 Oct 2015, 5:45 pm

..that the player was Parra makes it even sweeter. That boy has caused more mischief for Ireland over the years. Had he been on in the beginning, the result might have been different.

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Post by TJ Tue 13 Oct 2015, 6:00 pm

Clearly knew what he was doing when he hit the ball.

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Post by TJ Tue 13 Oct 2015, 6:01 pm

So i am predicting SOB gets a 3 match ban, Ford a warning, Ickle Jonny a two week ban

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Post by SecretFly Tue 13 Oct 2015, 6:03 pm

I think one week for O'Brien. The other two a warning. Didn't see the Bosch one so wouldn't attempt a reading.

I should have put money on this...

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Post by HammerofThunor Tue 13 Oct 2015, 6:04 pm

Gray did the 'tip'? If so I think it'll be more like 6 weeks or nothing. Either it's nothing or possibly a yellow. Or it'll be treated like a tip tackle and he'll be starting at something like 12 weeks, dropped by half.

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Post by Guest Tue 13 Oct 2015, 6:09 pm

SOB GETS 3 WEEK BAN!!!!







No, can't agree, TJ, think it will only be a week. Gray banned for life.

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Post by TJ Tue 13 Oct 2015, 6:12 pm

you can't ban him for life - he is only 21!

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Post by SecretFly Tue 13 Oct 2015, 6:12 pm

Gray cleared. His team banned though from all top ranked competitions.... for life. For being a bad example to Gray who was a nice lad before joining them... Wink

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Post by Guest Tue 13 Oct 2015, 6:15 pm

Sure that's ok. The younger he is, the more justified the punishment for his heinous crime angel

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Post by TJ Tue 13 Oct 2015, 6:18 pm

Very Happy

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Post by SecretFly Tue 13 Oct 2015, 6:18 pm

17 mins past 6???


Where's the judgements? Did O'Brien knock out each of the citing officers?

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Post by Sin é Tue 13 Oct 2015, 7:04 pm

MrsP wrote:I just read somewhere that SOB's hearing has lasted longer than Englands RWC 2015 campaign.

I know I shouldn't laugh but....

Also from Twitter: SOB to miss Argentinian game because the hearing is still going on!

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Post by SecretFly Tue 13 Oct 2015, 7:32 pm

This is ridiculous. No decision yet? And I have to choose a team for Schmidt. Hurry the feck up!

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Post by Engine#4 Tue 13 Oct 2015, 7:37 pm

Biltong wrote:
MrsP wrote:I just read somewhere that SOB's hearing has lasted longer than Englands RWC 2015 campaign.

I know I shouldn't laugh but....

All of 320 minutes Laugh

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Post by Pot Hale Tue 13 Oct 2015, 8:52 pm

2 weeks reduced to one. Misses quarter final.

That's that then. Move on
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Post by Golden Tue 13 Oct 2015, 8:57 pm

As expected. Any word on Bosch?

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Post by Artful_Dodger Tue 13 Oct 2015, 9:10 pm

If we appeal might he be made available or is that risking him being out of a potential semi-final a little too much?

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Post by TJ Tue 13 Oct 2015, 9:15 pm

No point in appealing - a one week ban for a punch not seen on the field is lenient

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Post by Guest Tue 13 Oct 2015, 9:18 pm

I think it was fair decision, but he admitted guilt, and so I don't think he has grounds for appeal.

I wouldn't push it anyway Very Happy

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Post by Pot Hale Tue 13 Oct 2015, 10:37 pm

Golden wrote:As expected. Any word on Bosch?

Bosch got a weak ban also....... Smile
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Post by Notch Tue 13 Oct 2015, 10:45 pm

Artful_Dodger wrote:If we appeal might he be made available or is that risking him being out of a potential semi-final a little too much?


What grounds are there for the appeal? It was literally the minimum possible punishment. Had they deemed it to be more than a lower-end offence we couldn't have really complained too much. But all in all I think the punishment fits the crime.

I think some of the reaction over disciplinary cases has been way overboard. Most of it revolved around Tuilagi getting a five-week ban. No-one could argue that that wasn't grossly unfair, including the organisers- which is why it was reduced to two weeks upon appeal. I've seen a lot of outraged people on twitter etc. saying that it's a stitch up and referring to the Tuilagi decision. Most don't seem to realise that that controversial ban was partially overturned and a more proportionate offence was issued. So is it really that inconsistent that striking someone's head with your knee gets just one week more than punching someone in the solar plexus? Two fairly similar offences and bans. It is certainly consistent with the basic guidelines which World Rugby have where striking with the knee is deemed a slightly more serious offence.
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Post by VinceWLB Tue 13 Oct 2015, 10:58 pm

Bosch ban is actually bad news for Ireland, never rated him one bit.

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Post by The Great Aukster Tue 13 Oct 2015, 11:23 pm

VinceWLB wrote:Bosch ban is actually bad news for Ireland, never rated him one bit.

... decent kicker but as a centre does exactly what is says on the shirt...

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Post by RubyGuby Wed 14 Oct 2015, 8:39 am

SOB 1

Scots 3

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Post by geoff999rugby Wed 14 Oct 2015, 8:46 am

Are there any videos of the Scottish incidents ?

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Post by rapidsnowman Wed 14 Oct 2015, 8:51 am

bsando wrote:
Has anyone got video of the tackle in question? I really don't remember seeing any tackles that looked worthy of a 3 week ban from either team during that game but I am happy to be proven wrong. It was very physical at times.

https://twitter.com/SDM_Robertson/status/654048075976196096 just look at the howls of complaints from the Samoans afterwards...

This is from Scot v Aus thread. Hope it works.

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Post by geoff999rugby Wed 14 Oct 2015, 9:10 am

Thanks

Just watched it - for me the citing officer got it right

That is very dangerous

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Post by Cardiff Dave Wed 14 Oct 2015, 10:16 pm

geoff999rugby wrote:Thanks

Just watched it - for me the citing officer got it right

That is very dangerous

The end result looked dangerous agreed, but it seems from the not so great footage, it's due to the three players involved pushing in different directions at the same time. Doesn't look like Ford and Gray conspired. Very harsh to receive 3 weeks. Could happen at any ruck in any game.

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Post by geoff999rugby Thu 15 Oct 2015, 5:51 pm

Any incident concerning the head is going to be clobbered at the moment.

Lot of nervousness around head injuries generally

Agreed it could happen at any ruck - that is a dilemma

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