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Post by George Carlin Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:36 am

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Leinster Rugby v Glasgow Warriors
23 October 2015
KO: 19:45
RDS Arena, Dooblin

Live on Sky Sports

Referee: Ian Davies (WRU, 36th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Leo Colgan, Olly Hodges (both IRFU)
Citing Commissioner: Eugene Ryan (IRFU)
TMO: Dermot Moloney (IRFU)

A. Head to Head

30 Played 30
18 Wins 9
9 Losses 18
3 Draws 3
69 Tries 56
51 Conversions 37
87 Penalties 58
1 Drop Goals 3
711 Points 537
24 Avg. Age 24

B. Form

Sat 6 Sep 2014
Glasgow Warriors 22 - 20 Leinster Rugby

Fri 27 Mar 2015
Leinster Rugby 34 - 34 Glasgow Warriors

C. Teams

Leinster Rugby
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15. Isa Nacewa (captain)
14. Garry Ringrose
13. Ben Te'o
12. Noel Reid
11. Fergus McFadden
10. Cathal Marsh
09. Luke McGrath

01. Michael Bent
02. Aaron Dundon
03. Marty Moore
04. Ross Molony
05. Mike McCarthy
06. Rhys Ruddock
07. Josh van der Flier
08. Jack Conan

16. James Tracy
17. Peter Dooley
18. Tadhg Furlong
19. Dominic Ryan
20. Daniel Leavy
21. Isaac Boss
22. Ross Byrne
23. Cian Kelleher

Glasgow Warriors
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15. Sean Lamont
14. Taqele Naiyaravoro
13. Richie Vernon
12. Fraser Lyle
11. Rory Hughes
10. Duncan Weir
09. Mike Blair

01. Alex Allan
02. Pat MacArthur
03. Zander Fagerson
04. Tim Swinson
05. Scott Cummings
06. Rob Harley (Captain)
07. Simone Favaro
08. Ryan Wilson

16. Kevin Bryce
17. Jerry Yanuyanutawa
18. Mike Cusack
19. Greg Peterson
20. Adam Ashe
21. Hugh Blake
22. Grayson Hart
23. Rory Clegg


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Post by RDW Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:06 pm

Glasgow stepping off the lineout but not sending someone doing the back to sack it - Kellock needs to do some coaching!

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Post by Eejit Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:08 pm

Good game so far. Glasgow conceding too many penalties. Favaro really will become a fan favourite. Looks likely for a try this week too.

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Post by RDW Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:12 pm

Very long advantage for Glasgow there!

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Post by BigGee Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:27 pm

How long is an advantage?

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Post by cakeordeath Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:31 pm

Well that was nonsense

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Post by RDW Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:33 pm

Another intent vs outcome debate there - he went in for a tackle with no malice but his arm came into contact with the guy's head!

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Post by BigGee Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:33 pm

Another card given on outcome not what actually happened. That was a penalty at best!

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Post by Nematode Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:35 pm

Favaro and Fusaro - will take a bit of time to get used to both names.

I'd quite like them to both play, give Hastings and Beattie a test.

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Post by BigGee Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:37 pm

Nematode wrote:Favaro and Fusaro - will take a bit of time to get used to both names.

I'd quite like them to both play, give Hastings and Beattie a test.

From what I have seen so far, we will be seeing plenty more of Favaro, he is completely fearless and has no regard for personal safety. He may bring just a little bit more than Fusaro

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Post by SecretFly Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:38 pm

The lack of attention to kicking excellence can be a joke in Irish players. 'It'll do, I don't like practicing. I'll get enough of them, I don't mind missing a few'

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Post by BigGee Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:38 pm

Glasgow well deserving of their lead. I just hope that dodgy yellow card is not going to cost us!

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Post by RDW Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:39 pm

Glasgow will be happy with that lead - they've generally been the better team, albeit Leinster coming into the half later on.

If Glasgow can stay ahead while down to 14 I think they'll go on to win.

Need to get Big T on the ball!

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Post by BigGee Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:44 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Glasgow will be happy with that lead - they've generally been the better team, albeit Leinster coming into the half later on.

If Glasgow can stay ahead while down to 14 I think they'll go on to win.

Need to get Big T on the ball!

I just can't wait for one barn storming, body shredding run from Tachy! Its going to come and when it does Glasgow fans will go into Ecstasy. Bring it on!

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Post by TJ Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:47 pm

I don't have an issue with the yellow. Swinging arm. Ruled reckless not deliberate so yellow not red. Harsh but not out of order

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Post by RDW Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:52 pm

TJ wrote:I don't have an issue with the yellow. Swinging arm.  Ruled reckless not deliberate so yellow not red.  Harsh but not out of order

You always suck up to the referees though! raspberry

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Post by BigGee Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:55 pm

Big Tachy, worth every penny!

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Post by Eejit Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:55 pm

Tacky!!!!

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Post by RDW Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:55 pm

Big T - unstoppable from 5m out!

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Post by RDW Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:04 pm

Got to love Mike Blair - one of the oldest on the pitch yet the first player back covering a kick through!

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Post by BigGee Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:09 pm

Great turnover

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Post by RDW Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:10 pm

If only Blair was 10 years younger - he's still one of Scotland's best 9s!

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Post by BigGee Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:15 pm

2 yellows in 2 games. Could have made a better start

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Post by RDW Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:16 pm

Would that have been a definite try? McFadden had fallen over (after a nudge)!

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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:16 pm

Naiyaravoro!! Someone remind him if the laws of the game!
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Post by BigGee Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:18 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Would that have been a definite try? McFadden had fallen over (after a nudge)!

As the ball was not in his hand, it is hard to say how it could have been a definite try!

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Post by bmcr Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:18 pm

Don't think you could give a penalty try there. Yellow yes. Penalty yes. Penalty try no

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Post by bmcr Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:20 pm

Dooley like a beached whale there. Stupid

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Post by RDW Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:20 pm

He made a decision very quickly - from the replays I can't see how you could conclude a definite try would have been scored

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Post by BigGee Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:22 pm

That is why Weir will never be an international FH!

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Post by 123456789 Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:25 pm

BigGee wrote:That is why Weir will never be an international FH!



I'm afraid you're 3 and half years and 21 caps too late for that.

If it's any consolation at his age he could still make 50 caps easy.

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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:26 pm

I once got pinged in a similar way as Tacky. 
I was full back and chasing a ball back against a winger - just like McFadden and Tacky - the ball bounced awkwardly and hit against my striding foot... ball goes dead and it was a penalty try even though no yellow. I was furious because it cost us the game. Everyone including my team thought it was deliberate by me, thankfully, our subs who happened to be behind that goal line saw what happened.

Weir shouldn't had those kicks... Tense ending in Dublin!
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Post by RDW Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:28 pm

Leinster messing up passes now too

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Post by Eejit Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:30 pm

Grayson Hart gives me the fear every time he handles the ball.

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Post by RDW Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:33 pm

Not been the best of 2nd halfs

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Post by BigGee Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:34 pm

Eejit wrote:Grayson Hart gives me the fear every time he handles the ball.

No need for him to go for the miracle offload there, should have trusted his team to recycle

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Post by RDW Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:34 pm

Shame for Glasgow - they did enough to win that but 2 yellows and too many penalties killed them.

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Post by BigGee Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:38 pm

Yellow cards killed us, the first one certainly was a bit iffy but no real issues about Big Ts. That was a game we could have won though, very tight and a few poor decisions cost us.

Well done Leinster anyway, a hard won win, defended the home patch very admirably


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Post by RDW Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:39 pm

Certainly no complaints against the 2nd yellow but I can't see how that was a penalty try.

Leinster could have scored from the penalty of course.

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Post by SecretFly Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:39 pm

The good thing for Leinster is that they look like they want to play heads-up again. A good omen for the next few seasons after the MOC period. A lot to work on but still a relief that the beginnings of a rebirth of sorts is possible.

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Post by BigGee Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:40 pm

Some tight results all round in the league this evening. Its going to be no cakewalk for anyone this year!

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Post by BigGee Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:46 pm

Looking at the reply, there was no way that was a penalty try, even the yellow may not have been given. All speculation though and no great complaints, these things usually even out over the season!

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Post by TJ Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:05 pm

Glasgow have really suffered from playing during the WC - so many players missing. Why was the Pro 12 played during the WC when the AP wasn't ( or not so many games)

Glasgow will end up with 6 games without the best half of their squad - with more to come in the 6N. Really really though on them and probably ruined their defence of the title.

Never mind - Edinburgh will just have to win it instead

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Post by BigGee Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:14 pm

TJ wrote:Glasgow have really suffered from playing during the WC - so many players missing.  Why was the Pro 12 played during the WC when the AP wasn't ( or not so many games)

Glasgow will end up with 6 games without the best half of their squad - with more to come in the 6N.  Really really though on them and probably ruined their defence of the title.

Never mind - Edinburgh will just have to win it instead

Its been tough, but we are not alone, others, Leinster included, have been hit pretty hard as well. It could have been worse for us. Normally you would have said a bonus point win against Munster and Leinster was a decent result, the only result that has really gone against us was Scarlets at home!

Ospreys are the side that really seem to have been killed by the WC. Glasgow are still in it, even if they have some ground to make up now!

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:21 pm

Glasgow should have won that, played some very good rugby and great defense. It probably shouldn't have been a pen try but other that that the ref did have a good game.

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Post by TJ Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:03 pm

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TJ wrote:Glasgow have really suffered from playing during the WC - so many players missing.  Why was the Pro 12 played during the WC when the AP wasn't ( or not so many games)

Glasgow will end up with 6 games without the best half of their squad - with more to come in the 6N.  Really really though on them and probably ruined their defence of the title.

Never mind - Edinburgh will just have to win it instead

Its been tough, but we are not alone, others, Leinster included, have been hit pretty hard as well. It could have been worse for us. Normally you would have said a bonus point win against Munster and Leinster was a decent result, the only result that has really gone against us was Scarlets at home!

Ospreys are the side that really seem to have been killed by the WC. Glasgow are still in it, even if they have some ground to make up now!

Glasgow lost 21 players. Had to draft infolk from all over - I think they lost the most players of any team altho I agree its been hard on a few folk leinster included.

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Post by SecretFly Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:02 am

It's bad................ and it's good. You get to see what's there behind the main guys. Every cloud has a silver lining and all that jazz Wink

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Post by George Carlin Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:46 am

Glasgow did lose more players to the tournament than any other club side in the world and so Toonie had to spread the signing budget over a larger number of (with respect) more limited players just to make sure that we had cover. Our main guys cannot come back soon enough because we have already reached half of the number of losses we chalked up in the whole of last season.

You cannot expect to win away from home with 2 yellow cards - Toonie will be urined off at that as much as losing a lead with 10 to go.

And this with one of Glasgow's favourite sons (a certain Canadian winger) tearing it up for the Scarlets yet again this week. Sad face.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:49 am

How did the young Leinster players get on? Specifically Ringrose, van der Flier and Kelleher if he came on.

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Post by asoreleftshoulder Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:13 am

Ringrose was excellent,I only saw highlights but he made some lovely breaks and some really good tackles.One passage of play near the end of the first half stood out where he made a good tackle on the right hand side of the pitch and then about 30 seconds later made another big tackle forcing a knock on but this time on the left hand side.The lad has a real appetite for the physical stuff.

Van der Flier looked good in the highlights too,he has great footwork and seems well able to make yards in the tight exchanges,reports of the game praised both of them highly.

Kelleher was only on for a 2 or 3 minutes so didn't get a chance to make any impact.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:19 am

asoreleftshoulder wrote:Ringrose was excellent,I only saw highlights but he made some lovely breaks and some really good tackles.One passage of play near the end of the first half stood out where he made a good tackle on the right hand side of the pitch and then about 30 seconds later made another big tackle forcing a knock on but this time on the left hand side.The lad has a real appetite for the physical stuff.

Van der Flier looked good in the highlights too,he has great footwork and seems well able to make yards in the tight exchanges,reports of the game praised both of them highly.

Kelleher was only on for a 2 or 3 minutes so didn't get a chance to make any impact.

Yeah the few times I have seen Ringrose he has absolutely clobbered someone. He seems really aggressive in defence, despite not being the biggest guy around. Can you see him occupying the 13 shirt for Leinster this season? Even for a few games perhaps.

Do you have a link to highlights by any chance?

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