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Post by George Carlin Mon 19 Oct 2015, 7:29 am

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ARGENTINA AUSTRALIA

25 October 2015
16:00 BST (UTC+01)
Twickenham, London

Live on [TBC]

Ref: Wayne Barnes (England)
ARs: Jaco Peyper (South Africa) & George Clancy (A World Of His Own)
TMO: Ben Skeen (New Zealand)

A. Head to Head

24 Played 24
5 Won 18
1 Drawn 1
18 Lost 5
372 Points 644

B. Recent Form

25 July 2015
Estadio Malvinas Argentinas, Mendoza
9 – 34 to Australia

4 October 2014
Estadio Malvinas Argentinas, Mendoza
21 – 17 to Argentina

13 September 2014
Cbus Super Stadium, Gold Coast
32 – 25 to Australia

5 October 2013
Gigante de Arroyito, Rosario
17 – 54 to Australia

14 September 2013
Subiaco Oval, Perth
14 – 13 to Australia

6 October 2012
Gigante de Arroyito, Rosario
19 – 25 to Australia

15 September 2012
Skilled Park, Gold Coast
23 – 19 to Australia

10 October 2003
Stadium Australia, Sydney
24 – 8 to Australia

C. TEAMS:

ARGENTINA
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Tuculet; Cordero, Bosch, J Hernandez, Imhoff; Sanchez, Landajo; Ayerza, Creevy, Herrera; Petti Pagadizabal, Lavanini; Matera, Fernandez Lobbe, Senatore.

Replacements: Amorosino for Imhoff (19) De la Fuente for J Hernandez (44), Cubelli for Landajo (56), Figallo for Herrera (61), Alemanno for Petti Pagadizabal (58), Noguera for Matera (64), Isa for Senatore (49).

Not Used: Montoya.

AUSTRALIA
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Folau; Ashley-Cooper, Kuridrani, Giteau, Mitchell; Foley, Genia; Slipper, Moore, Kepu; Douglas, Simmons; Fardy, Hooper, Pocock.

Replacements: Toomua for Folau (64), Beale for Giteau (47), Phipps for Genia (67), Smith for Slipper (53), Polota-Nau for Moore (60), Holmes for Kepu (53), Mumm for Simmons (67), McCalman for Fardy (56).


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Post by Pal Joey Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:15 pm

sportform wrote:If Australia win this World Cup will go down as a) boring b) even more remembered for a refereeing error.

World Rugby really need to look at themselves.and open up the game. How is England playing France three times a year, as did Ireland and New Zealand, good.for.the game?

International rugby is far to closed shop.

Harsh comment. At least the final 4 teams have played more enterprising rugby than the rest.
It's not the team's fault the referees and TMOs have made quite a few blunders.
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Post by offload Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:19 pm

The Aussie back row is wining this for Australia. When then don't win a turnover they slow it brilliantly.

How did the officials miss that? Pullinhg the ball back in right in front of the ref?
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Post by glamorganalun Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:19 pm

pulled ball back in front of the ref and line judge but pen goes the wrong way.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:20 pm

Pretty sure I saw a no armed tackle put in by an Aussie there, looked worse than the Puma's one. Bit lucky there for Australia.

The Pumas are really coming back into this match.
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Post by Notch Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:20 pm

For me, this has been the most exciting World Cup in recent memory in terms of the quality of rugby played.
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Post by nathan Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:21 pm

Notch wrote:For me, this has been the most exciting World Cup in recent memory in terms of the quality of rugby played.

I have to agree, dispose England playing Poopie I've enjoyed it alot

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Post by monty junior Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:21 pm

I'm Scottish but i'm bored of the anti Aussie crowd and coverage. That decision by Barnes there is as bad as it gets! I'd rather see Australia in the final because they would actually have a chance.

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Post by ebop Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:22 pm

Argies look like they've woken up
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Post by monty junior Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:23 pm

Notch wrote:For me, this has been the most exciting World Cup in recent memory in terms of the quality of rugby played.

Agreed it's been great, people of countries who are out always try and discredit it but apart from the poor scheduling it's been a fantastic tournament with the 4 best teams in the semi's.

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Post by westisbest Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:23 pm

Been a great world cup

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Post by nathan Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:25 pm

Pisses me off when scrum halfs play for the penalty

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Post by Guest Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:26 pm

Australia so lazy to get to that breakdown then. Fully deserved to be turned over.

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Post by ebop Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:27 pm

It has been a really good RWC thanks in large part to Pool A and some really close games throughout. Anyone saying otherwise is loco.
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Post by nathan Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:27 pm

I fear this will be a plucky loss by arg

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Post by eirebilly Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:28 pm

Cant really complain about this RWC, the rugby has been excellent, the crowds outstanding and the coverage brilliant.

The only grip I have is the over involvement of the TMO's at times.
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Post by Heaf Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:31 pm

and under at others e.g. keeping schtum about the ABs forward pass yesterday

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Post by offload Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:34 pm

westisbest wrote:Been a great world cup

True, but not this game. Can't see NZ losing sleep either way.
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Post by sportform Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:35 pm

Drop kicks add up and count.


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Post by nathan Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:38 pm

Stupid errors costing arg

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Post by nathan Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:39 pm

Australia starting to make errors now

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Post by nathan Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:41 pm

Will Australia ever get pinged for being so slow to roll away. Arg are having to use th energy to move them out of the way quicker


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Post by Heaf Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:42 pm

doubtful

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Post by nathan Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:43 pm

Awful tackling

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:43 pm

take that.
geez... eventually got there.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:43 pm

Australia have been just too clinical for the Pumas. More endeavour from the Puma's but just unable to finish off their chances.

AAC Hat trick does it for the Puma's.
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Post by glamorganalun Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:44 pm

What a great try great pace.

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Post by offload Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:44 pm

GAME SET AND MATCH.
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Post by Heaf Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:45 pm

game over

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Post by eirebilly Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:46 pm

Last week against Ireland, these moves were working for Argentina, today the pressure of a RWC semi final has got to them.
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Post by wolfball Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:47 pm

Aus have best defense in the tournament. The only team that can maybe keep the ABs from scoring tries. Cheika has added proper steal to them. Was cheerimg for arg but have to say 4-0 tries despite a huge amount of possession from Arg- oz worthy winners well done. shows what a bit of structure could do for arg though. Too much headless chicken stuff at times.

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Post by nathan Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:49 pm

I thought it was changed to how it comes out of the hands, not if the ball goes forward

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Post by glamorganalun Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:49 pm

eirebilly wrote:Last week against Ireland, these moves were working for Argentina, today the pressure of a RWC semi final has got to them.

It may have something to do with the opposition.

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Post by offload Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:51 pm

Well after all the ups and down over the last few weeks, the best 2 teams will contest the final. Predictable perhaps, but true to form.
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Post by ebop Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:53 pm

Well done wallabies, deserving victors. Wallabies seem to start games really well but have big second half lulls. The ABs will look to target these periods.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:53 pm

glamorganalun wrote:
eirebilly wrote:Last week against Ireland, these moves were working for Argentina, today the pressure of a RWC semi final has got to them.

It may have something to do with the opposition.

All credit to the Aussie defence, they have blitzed the Argentinian attack which Ireland couldn't do but they have also made so many unforced erros's which they weren't making last week.

Aus - AB final. That is going to be tasty.
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Post by glamorganalun Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:53 pm

Australian defence is top notch and may win them the RWC again.

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:55 pm

Yes, wolfball. Australia and New Zealand are both very defensive oriented teams. Also the most attacking teams.
I think the All Blacks will have too much for them, ebop... thanks for above!
These games have taken a lot out of the players.
There surely must be more and worsening niggling injuries now after that match. Who will be left standing? Time will tell.
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Post by majesticimperialman Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:58 pm

Australia in to the final with New Zealand. Number 1 and number 2 in the world rankings.

Well played Argentina a brave fight but Australia just too strong all around thge field to be honest.

A great game, and rhe best team won. Should New Zealand be worried? I don't know what to think about next week.

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:59 pm

4th world cup final for both countries. Must be the water around here, yeah?
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Post by Biltong Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:59 pm

Well played OZ , solid across the park, Argentina just couldn't lift themselves for another knock out, the Aussie defence a tad better than the Irish.
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Post by SecretFly Sun 25 Oct 2015, 5:59 pm

All hail Australia. Dogged hard hoors. But look at the game. Look at the faces on these guys coming off a game on both sides.... and then look at what football offers.

What a game rugby is when played at the hardest toughest level. War.

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Post by VinceWLB Sun 25 Oct 2015, 6:01 pm

offload wrote:Well after all the ups and down over the last few weeks, the best 2 teams will contest the final.  Predictable perhaps, but true to form.

And the best 4 teams were in the semi finals.

Argentina really had a great team.

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Post by nathan Sun 25 Oct 2015, 6:01 pm

The Loaded Dog wrote:4th world cup final for both countries. Must be the water around here, yeah?

Is that a gloat?

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Post by Notch Sun 25 Oct 2015, 6:02 pm

Biltong wrote: the Aussie defence a tad better than the Irish.

More than just a tad, I'm sure most will admit!
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Post by Pal Joey Sun 25 Oct 2015, 6:02 pm

5am here... lucky I went to sleep at 8pm and woke at 2:30am. Otherwise I'd be stuffed!
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Post by glamorganalun Sun 25 Oct 2015, 6:03 pm

The AB's have had an easy trip to the final before the semi but Aust have had a very hard time and could show next week.

Deserved win 4 tries to nil.

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Post by Pal Joey Sun 25 Oct 2015, 6:04 pm

Notch wrote:
Biltong wrote: the Aussie defence a tad better than the Irish.

More than just a tad, I'm sure most will admit!

It's NRL style defence. NZ do it too. Just relentlessly banging themselves against each other until someone cracks.

Exhausting to watch though!
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Post by Notch Sun 25 Oct 2015, 6:07 pm

glamorganalun wrote:The AB's have had an easy trip to the final before the semi but Aust have had a very hard time and could show next week.

Deserved win 4 tries to nil.

Bit of a funny one for New Zealand, because they had a really hard game in the opener too- a very hard-fought opening game against Argentina. Then four pretty easy matches, then a real hard one again.
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Post by ebop Sun 25 Oct 2015, 6:16 pm

Yeah the ABs needed that tough game against SA to recalibrate. The wallabies have just kept on doing what they need to and massive respect for that. Today was pretty convincing for them.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 25 Oct 2015, 6:17 pm

nathan wrote:
The Loaded Dog wrote:4th world cup final for both countries. Must be the water around here, yeah?

Is that a gloat?

Oh Nathan. Rolling Eyes

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