Champions Cup Pool 1: Ulster v Saracens, 20 November

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Ulster Rugby v Saracens
Friday 20 November 2015
KO: 19:45
Kingspan Stadium, Belfast

Live on BT Sport / beIN Sports

Referee Romain Poite (France)
Touch Judge 1 Cyril Lafon (France)
Touch Judge 2 Pierre Brousset (France)
Fourth Official Richard Kerr (Ireland)
TMO Eric Gauzins (France)

A. Head to Head

6 Played 6
1 Wins 5
5 Losses 1
0 Draws 0
98 Points 148

B. Recent Form

5 April 2014
Ulster 15-17 Saracens

6 April 2013
Saracens 27-16 Ulster

C. Teams

Ulster Rugby
 
15. Louis Ludik
14. Andrew Trimble
13. Darren Cave
12. Stuart McCloskey
11. Craig Gilroy
10. Paddy Jackson
09. Ruan Pienaar

01. Callum Black
02. Rory Best (c)
03. Wiehahn Herbst
04. Dan Tuohy
05. Franco Van Der Merwe
06. Iain Henderson
07. Chris Henry
08. Nick Williams

16. Rob Herring
17. Kyle McCall
18. Ricky Lutton
19. Robbie Diack
20. Roger Wilson
21. Paul Marshall
22. Ian Humphreys
23. Peter Nelson

Saracens

15 Alex Goode
14 Chris Ashton
13 Duncan Taylor
12 Brad Barritt (c)
11 Chris Wyles
10 Owen Farrell
09 Richard Wigglesworth

01 Mako Vunipola
02 Schalk Brits
03 Petrus Du Plessis
04 George Kruis
05 Maro Itoje
06 Michael Rhodes
07 Jacques Burger
08 Billy Vunipola

16 Jamie George
17 Rhys Gill
18 Juan Figallo
19 Alistair Hargreaves
20 Jackson Wray
21 Neil De Kock
22 Charlie Hodgson
23 Marcelo Bosch

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Well isn't that rich. I was actually counting down how long it would take before that comment fished out Chunky. He didn't disappoint.

He's like a faithful hound

yappysnap wrote:28 mins approx, he runs in to join a maul and throws an uppercutish punch

Was it where pienaar was going crazy? Just after they looked at the burger tackle?

I'm still sobbing that you've pushed me in the that crowd Rory

nathan wrote:I'm still sobbing that you've pushed me in the that crowd Rory

I didn't give any names.

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

nathan wrote:I'm still sobbing that you've pushed me in the that crowd Rory

I didn't give any names.

Good good, I can take being called immature because well.... I normally am. But putting me into THAT crowd, well I can't take that!

Whatever about the rules being relaxed the annoying thing when comparing the Payne red with today's incident is that with Payne he had eyes on ball and had the basket ready.

Today we had a player who was not targeting a ball but a player. He git his timing si badly wrong he charged the player in the air under one leg.

Surely the punishment should take into consideration if a hit was made badly or a catch was badly timed without awareness of surroundings.

Never agreed with the landing being the decider. Never will.

nathan wrote:

yappysnap wrote:28 mins approx, he runs in to join a maul and throws an uppercutish punch

Was it where pienaar was going crazy? Just after they looked at the burger tackle?

Nah I think it was well after that. I can try and find it but I'm sure it's around the 28 min mark

nathan wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

nathan wrote:I'm still sobbing that you've pushed me in the that crowd Rory

I didn't give any names.

Good good, I can take being called immature because well.... I normally am. But putting me into THAT crowd, well I can't take that!

Nah you're all good.

nathan wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

nathan wrote:I'm still sobbing that you've pushed me in the that crowd Rory

I didn't give any names.

Good good, I can take being called immature because well.... I normally am. But putting me into THAT crowd, well I can't take that!

No one wants to be in that crowd!

yappysnap wrote:

nathan wrote:

yappysnap wrote:28 mins approx, he runs in to join a maul and throws an uppercutish punch

Was it where pienaar was going crazy? Just after they looked at the burger tackle?

Nah I think it was well after that. I can try and find it but I'm sure it's around the 28 min mark

Chunky usually does analysis on these things after the game, I'd wait for that.

28 mins 17's in, watch Barrett run into the tackle and bind with his left then swing in for a punch on the jackalling player with his right, then have a second go.

I tried making a genuine comment up above which got lost in the guff. Can we do the childish stuff in PMs please?? So the a proper discussion can happen?

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

yappysnap wrote:

nathan wrote:

yappysnap wrote:28 mins approx, he runs in to join a maul and throws an uppercutish punch

Was it where pienaar was going crazy? Just after they looked at the burger tackle?

Nah I think it was well after that. I can try and find it but I'm sure it's around the 28 min mark

Chunky usually does analysis on these things after the game, I'd wait for that.

I get the feeling Chunky may only do his "analysis" on one team and with just one eye...

This is feckin torture !

People will respond if they want, we can all see it.

more like scrum chess than rugby

clivemcl wrote:I tried making a genuine comment up above which got lost in the guff. Can we do the childish stuff in PMs please?? So the a proper discussion can happen?

We've moved on from that incident, it was 45 minutes ago!

toml wrote:more like scrum chess than rugby

Love it.

or anti-rugby !

In fairness to both teams, it's not exactly the weather for glorious running rugby. It was bloody snowing not so long ago

Too easy.

Good save by best there

Have to say Austin Healy is doing a good job. More informative than most of his peers

So a kick that is caught and becomes a maul always goes to the carrying team, I didn't know that.

So a kick that is caught and becomes a maul always goes to the carrying team, I didn't know that.

What a Poopie decision

For about 10 seconds I felt sorry for sarries then

I think Les Kiss told Henderson to hide in the first half and then destroy everything in sight for the second half.

The cover defence is just horrendous. What an offload though.

Good positive play in Poopie conditions

Where is Piatau? we could use him tonight!

I can't see Ulster winning. They haven't really threatened the Sarries line at all.

No penetration Rory

Gilroy is far too weak positionally, defensively and his kicking game is awful.

Rory_Gallagher wrote:I can't see Ulster winning. They haven't really threatened the Sarries line at all.

Are they against the wind now?

nathan wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:I can't see Ulster winning. They haven't really threatened the Sarries line at all.

Are they against the wind now?

Yeah.

Flip me. The Saracens are carving us up with some fantastic rugby.

I'm sorry but Healy was wrong there, his arm was straight and the impact was all with the shoulder. SBW got Poopie loads of yellows for that kind of thing.

Slating the ref on live tv is not on

With a man down, I totally forgot. You wouldn't have thought it.

yappysnap wrote:I'm sorry but Healy was wrong there, his arm was straight and the impact was all with the shoulder. SBW got Poopie loads of yellows for that kind of thing.

Slating the ref on live tv is not on

I disagree (hate to when it's Saracens) but I didn't think his arm was straight. Looked worse than it was because it was two big blokes.

Great effort by Saracens whilst being a man down. Twice.

I can't even say with great confidence that the result would have been different had the Sarries received a deserved red card when they have managed to score 2 tries against us with 14 men.

We should be able to beat them with a full strength side anyway. They are better than us in every way.

Rory_Gallagher wrote:I can't even say with great confidence that the result would have been different had the Sarries received a deserved red card when they have managed to score 2 tries against us with 14 men.

We should be able to beat them with a full strength side anyway. They are better than us in every way.

Including spending over the salary cap... Hehe

Rory Best - one of the few players who can hold their head high after this game.

As much as it pains me to say it, sarries have played well tonight and showed some good skill in difficult conditions

Ouch 0-5

Best team won, I think everyone will agree.

Sometimes I wish karma was real...

Well played Saracens.

I am worried about the defensive organisation of the teams that play under Les Kiss to be honest. I would also like to know why Iain Henderson was utilised in the wing for the large majority of the game, does he want him to be Peter O'Mahony or something?

Chunky Norwich wrote:Ouch 0-5

Best team won, I think everyone will agree.

I think it's funny that you make this comment directly below an Ulster fan saying so. Your attempt to trap ulster fans into not appearing as whingers was defeated from the get go.

clivemcl wrote:

Chunky Norwich wrote:Ouch 0-5

Best team won, I think everyone will agree.

I think it's funny that you make this comment directly below an Ulster fan saying so. Your attempt to trap ulster fans into not appearing as whingers was defeated from the get go.

hey I'm a tigers fan, I'm happy you didn't notice though!