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Post by laverfan Sun 22 Nov 2015, 5:21 am

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MoTD: Djokovic v Federer (really!  laughing or should it be Ack!Ack! vs Kamikaze)

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Post by bogbrush Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:39 am

We've had able veterans before, but have we ever had a time when the only serious rival to the #1 is 34?
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Post by HM Murdock Sun 22 Nov 2015, 8:16 am

bogbrush wrote:We've had able veterans before, but have we ever had a time when the only serious rival to the #1 is 34?
It's because Federer is playing his best tennis ever in this Golden Era of the men's game.

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Post by sirfredperry Sun 22 Nov 2015, 8:52 am

Djoko was clinical against a somewhat lack-lustre Rafa yesterday and should be too much for Fed today. But Rog is surely going to put more pressure on the Serb than Rafa did.
Problem is that Fed could actually play quite well and still lose against Djoko. I, too, bemoan the fact that so few can give Djoko a decent match at the moment. But despite his performance yesterday, Rafa - to me - is the guy who can push Djoko in 2016.

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Post by Manojchandra Sun 22 Nov 2015, 9:27 am

Let us pray that it is a good match. If Novak has a dip in either mood or form or body, and if Roger is at his best, there is a possibility of upset. But my guess? Straight sets win for Novak. Hope I am completely wrong...

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sun 22 Nov 2015, 12:01 pm

If Novak had lost half a yard of running pace he wouldn't even be top 30 in the world. Amazing that at 34 and losing some of the foot speed he's able to reach this final and have multiple wins against the man in his prime clap
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Post by sirfredperry Sun 22 Nov 2015, 1:16 pm

Yes. Fed has had another good season. But it's a sad reflection on the current crop of players that no one has been able to break into the top four/five and that even the 6-10 ranked guys are hardly in the first flush of youth.
  As for Djoko's likely speed (see JM above) it's going to be one of the exciting things to see over the next few years just how players like Murray, Novak and Rafa are going to cope with the advancing years. Mind you, if Ferrer's terrific performance against Rafa at the 02 this week is anything to go by, may be the speed around court can be maintained into their 30s.

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Post by Henman Bill Sun 22 Nov 2015, 5:46 pm

So if Djokovic wins, both will have a 4-1 record at this tournament. Would it be fair to give Roger the trophy on account on his general popularity and greatness, or would it be fairer to call the tournament a draw?

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Post by YvonneT Sun 22 Nov 2015, 5:58 pm

If I was a Federer fan, I think I might even be happy for Djokovic to win today - he never seems to have a problem leveling the H2H but can never get ahead so that would mean advantage Fed should they meet at the AO!

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Post by Jahu Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:09 pm

Come on Fed, save the tennis world.

Go Roger Go!!!!
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Post by Henman Bill Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:12 pm

I've just seen an interesting stat there, in total sets Fed is up 68-58 in the head to head, although only up 22-21 in overall matches.

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Post by Jahu Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:13 pm

Also, lets keep the thread on Live commentary.

Please no History, Nadal, Andy this and that derailing the topic.

Only Fed & Djoko here Smile
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Post by summerblues Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:14 pm

Good luck, Roger.

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Post by Henman Bill Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:17 pm

I suppose a Federer win today would be his biggest title for 3.5 years - since Wimbledon 2012.

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Post by Jahu Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:19 pm

Come on Fed, run with the first set.
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Post by Jahu Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:20 pm

Break him, breakkkkk himmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Post by summerblues Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:20 pm

Much more baseliney than yesterday from Fed.

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Post by Jahu Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:21 pm

Hit the net man, hit the net, scare him.
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Post by Jahu Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:22 pm

Bit of a relaxed match so far.

Attack Fed attack, screw the baseline crap.
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Post by Jahu Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:26 pm

Fed melting.

Wake up papi.
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Post by temporary21 Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:26 pm

Fock me! You can hit passes like that!

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Post by summerblues Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:27 pm

Mhmm, not a good start for Roger.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:29 pm

Boring monotone level of play is enough to take a break lead

What an era.
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Post by Jahu Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:34 pm

Come on Roger, 5% more focus, you got this.
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Post by Jahu Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:37 pm

Djoko cheating with his Box coaching again.
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Post by Jahu Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:40 pm

Both players dead tired.
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Post by summerblues Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:42 pm

Fed has had two BPs and lost them both with cheap UEs. Not a good sign.

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Post by LuvSports! Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:50 pm

Feds has only once come from behind vs Djoko to win.
Dubai last year.

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:51 pm

Least he made it on court this time Wink

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Post by Jahu Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:52 pm

Djoko takes the fist set.

Fed playing silly at moments, Djoko good in right moments.
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Post by temporary21 Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:52 pm

Hmm. It's not done yet. But that's tricky. A few 30 ally but errors in the rallies

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Post by LuvSports! Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:53 pm

6-3 Sad

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Post by summerblues Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:53 pm

Easy easy first set for Novak.

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Post by Jahu Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:54 pm

Fed a little lost in this match as to what to do.

Djoko just playing his game and waiting for Fed errors.
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Post by summerblues Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:55 pm

Jahu wrote:Fed a little lost in this match as to what to do.
Yes. It is not clear to me what Roger's game plan was.

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:56 pm

7 out of 9 on second serves Djokovic. Ouch!

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Post by Jahu Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:57 pm

Yes, last match with Djoko he was attacking.

Last night agasint Stan, same, just attack.

Tonight he seems stuck and not clear what approach to take, even so that Djoko does not seem to be on his magic mood either.


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Post by Henman Bill Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:58 pm

Fed's playing quite well I think, although the stats are not showing it.

Unfortunately his unusually high BP conversion in this tournament went awry when he needed it, and it's a familiar story of Djokovic winning more of the big points.

To be honest I'm half watching because even though they are reasonably closely watched there is a feeling of inevitability about the outcome which started in game 1 and was solidified by game 3. Maybe I'm biased but I like a bit more intrigue.

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:59 pm

There was a telling stat that out of the 22 victories Federer has had, 20 of them his points on second serve was over 50% which against Djokovic is vital. Tonight it's 46%.

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Post by LuvSports! Sun 22 Nov 2015, 7:00 pm

Needs to servebot it

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Post by temporary21 Sun 22 Nov 2015, 7:00 pm

Good work bbc. Missed the whole game

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Post by Henman Bill Sun 22 Nov 2015, 7:03 pm

quality wise I am enjoying the match, just the suspense and drama is missing so far

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Nov 2015, 7:04 pm

Pity. Felt there could've been a chance if he got to 40-40.

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Post by Jahu Sun 22 Nov 2015, 7:05 pm

Apart from a few magic shots from both players, so far a joke of the match.
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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sun 22 Nov 2015, 7:06 pm

The only way Federer beats Djokovic is catching him cold before the final.

Consistency beats genius
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Post by summerblues Sun 22 Nov 2015, 7:07 pm

Henman Bill wrote:quality wise I am enjoying the match, just the suspense and drama is missing so far
Fed is playing ok, but way too passive.  Even when playing well, he will not outplay Novak from the baseline.  He might lose even when attacking, but even so, that is the only hope.

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Post by Henman Bill Sun 22 Nov 2015, 7:10 pm

Fed's hit some great shots actually, do you mean he needs to attack earlier in the rally, and look for more 3-6 shot points?

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Nov 2015, 7:10 pm

Let me get a fat lady...

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Post by Jahu Sun 22 Nov 2015, 7:12 pm

legendkillarV2 wrote:Let me get a fat lady...

Anything will do...
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Post by temporary21 Sun 22 Nov 2015, 7:12 pm

All his great shots are in one point here and there though, in general hes whipping up on his fh and missing his serve, his volleys are off too. Its a tough one

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