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Post by LondonTiger Wed 25 Nov 2015, 4:41 pm

There is a vote here https://www.606v2.com/t61391-hall-of-fame-2015-6-round-1-group-c

You want a drug cheat like Carl Lewis to beat him?

Seems so, as no-one here can be arsed to vote.





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Post by WELL-PAST-IT Wed 25 Nov 2015, 5:00 pm

In answer to your question Yes, probably the best of all time.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Wed 25 Nov 2015, 6:50 pm

He could play a bit couldn't he lol
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Post by LondonTiger Wed 25 Nov 2015, 7:24 pm

Sadly it seems my attempt to drum up votes had failed.

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Post by GeordieFalcon Wed 25 Nov 2015, 8:25 pm

Nah, he wasn't even the best scrum half ever.

Carl Lewis is an Olympic and athletics legend. Sprint champion and involved in the greatest long jump competiton ever

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Post by LondonTiger Wed 25 Nov 2015, 8:56 pm

Lewis was also a drug cheat who allegedly paid the USATF to cover it all up.

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Post by GeordieFalcon Wed 25 Nov 2015, 9:01 pm

I don't believe a word of it... Wink

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Post by LondonTiger Wed 25 Nov 2015, 9:11 pm

You believe this though:

You know, once I was thinking about quitting when I was diagnosed with brain, lung and testicular cancer, all at the same time. But with the love and support of my friends and family, I got back on the bike and I won the Tour de France five times in a row. But I'm sure you have a good reason to quit. So what are you dying from that's keeping you from the finals?

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Post by GeordieFalcon Wed 25 Nov 2015, 9:27 pm

Ah that's cycling theyre all on it.....

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Post by blackcanelion Thu 26 Nov 2015, 12:55 am

I think for a lot of rugby fans might be that, good as he was, they don't rate him as the greatest of all time rugby players. I'm old enough to remember him playing. Thought he was a great player, but he wouldn't make my short list for greatest of all time rugby player. Hence there's no motivation to vote.


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Post by doctor_grey Thu 26 Nov 2015, 1:26 am

bedfordwelsh wrote:He could play a bit couldn't he lol
He didn't suck.

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Post by aucklandlaurie Thu 26 Nov 2015, 4:34 am


I dont vote on these type of polls anymore, as Ive tried (unsuccessfully) to explain to others that to compare sports people from differenty sports is just too subjective, and especially in an example like this one where a player in a team sport is compared against three individual sports people.

But What even makes this comparison even dumber is that Edwards is the only one from a contact sport.

No I didnt vote for Edwards. I didnt vote for anyone. Its not a case of getting the answer wrong as its the question that is wrong.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Thu 26 Nov 2015, 5:29 am

Unfortunately on the whole and in the World context rugby is still a minority sport.
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Post by aucklandlaurie Thu 26 Nov 2015, 5:40 am

bedfordwelsh wrote:Unfortunately on the whole and in the World context rugby is still a minority sport.

On the whole New Zealand's part of the World? and Rugby has never been a minority sport here.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Thu 26 Nov 2015, 5:57 am

aucklandlaurie wrote:
bedfordwelsh wrote:Unfortunately on the whole and in the World context rugby is still a minority sport.

On the whole New Zealand's part of the World? and Rugby has never been a minority sport here.

Agreed but the world over it still is
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Post by aucklandlaurie Thu 26 Nov 2015, 6:11 am

One day the rest of the World will catch up.

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Post by majesticimperialman Thu 26 Nov 2015, 7:15 am

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:In answer to your question Yes, probably the best of all time.


I don't know about that. Probably the best of "HIS" Time.  There have been better since him.Joost Van der vestusan ( spelling) for one.

George Gregan for another.

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Post by geoff999rugby Thu 26 Nov 2015, 9:15 am

Best of all time for me.

As to votes anyone under 45 never saw him play that's the problem

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Post by Cyril Thu 26 Nov 2015, 9:30 am

Voted for Carl Lewis Smile

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Post by GeordieFalcon Thu 26 Nov 2015, 10:49 am

aucklandlaurie wrote:
bedfordwelsh wrote:Unfortunately on the whole and in the World context rugby is still a minority sport.

On the whole New Zealand's part of the World? and Rugby has never been a minority sport here.

But that's just a few rocks in the deepest darkest pacific ocean.... Whistle Wink

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Post by geoff999rugby Thu 26 Nov 2015, 10:57 am

Cyril wrote:Voted for Carl Lewis  Smile

Not surprised rumour has it you like drug cheats in Wales Wink

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Post by Cyril Thu 26 Nov 2015, 10:58 am

geoff999rugby wrote:
Cyril wrote:Voted for Carl Lewis  Smile

Not surprised rumour has it you like drug cheats in Wales Wink
Wales? Who is in Wales?

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Post by geoff999rugby Thu 26 Nov 2015, 11:24 am

Don't you read the news ??

all those rugby players

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Post by goneagain Thu 26 Nov 2015, 11:40 am

Phelps is the standout in that list. The only one who is the GOAT in his own sport.

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Post by doctor_grey Thu 26 Nov 2015, 12:15 pm

aucklandlaurie wrote: One day the rest of the World will catch up.
I agree, mate. It should happen.

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Post by HammerofThunor Thu 26 Nov 2015, 12:47 pm

I don't tend to vote for things like this. But I wouldn't vote for Edwards as I never saw him play. I probably would have gone for Phelps if I had bothered.

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Post by Knowsit17 Thu 26 Nov 2015, 1:28 pm

What? The square-eyed, modernising generation doesn't know much about a great rugby player from the 60s/70s? Next you'll be saying not many people who debate their rugby online know who Cliff Morgan even was Wink

Go into any national stadium on a match day and ask around. I'm sure you'd get a far more positive response to your survey than you would on here.

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Post by RubyGuby Thu 26 Nov 2015, 1:54 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gareth_Edwards thumbsup

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Post by Cardiff Dave Thu 26 Nov 2015, 9:14 pm

Cardiff Blues again, missing a trick I reckon.

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Post by SecretFly Thu 26 Nov 2015, 9:29 pm

Like Hammer, I don't usually vote in those kind of things.... it's all so subjective so what does it matter how anyone votes.  I let the voters vote.

I remember Edwards playing and, yep, he was a spark for his time.  

Lewis would have been the guy though that at one time in the 80s I would have placed highest in that list.  It wasn't just the speed, but I think it was the grace of his running style.  It was art, a thing of beauty.  Usain Bolt, for all the va va va voom antics post-race, doesn't come remotely close to the sheer force of Lewis's presence in his prime - and the fact that Lewis 'excelled' at more than one discipline too, would have given him more kudos.
But of course, it's now virtually certain it was all yet again a bluff and a sham. Yet another golden boy was less than gold afterall.

So on we go.... should Phelps be on the list?  Well maybe.  Whistle   But honestly I've lost appreciation for 'greatness' in many sports because I guess Carl Lewis himself (and others before and since) have proved that if it looks too good to be true, then it probably is.  

I don't trust any of it anymore - any of it.

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Post by blackcanelion Thu 26 Nov 2015, 11:17 pm

I think the thing is that Edwards is the greatest player for people of a certain age and a certain location. These things are always subjective. Just a cursory review of the halfback position would also bring up the likes of Danie Craven and Nick Farr-Jones to name just two. That's before you even get into other positions.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Fri 27 Nov 2015, 8:16 am

As has been mentioned many times before, comparing generations is always hard due to the way the game was played and the facilities and conditioning now available to modern day players.

Edwards for me was the best of his generation and like others from the amateur days would have also made it in the pro era.
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Post by Tattie Scones RRN Fri 27 Nov 2015, 9:35 am

And this is why these polls wouldn't give a balanced view. You're basically trying to get rugby supporters to vote for rugby nominees which would indicate that GE would be the most popular, rather than deserving of a hall of fame place over other celebrated sports people.

I voted for Phelps by the way....

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Post by Cyril Fri 27 Nov 2015, 10:16 am

geoff999rugby wrote:Don't you read the news ??

all those rugby players

No, I'm aware of all that. It seems you're under the misapprehension that I'm Welsh or in Wales.

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Post by LadyPutt Fri 27 Nov 2015, 2:03 pm

LondonTiger wrote:Sadly it seems my attempt to drum up votes had failed.

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I'm usually on the golf forum but I voted for him. Some very strange selections to pick from Erm
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