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Post by Henman Bill Thu 26 Nov 2015, 6:58 pm

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Well at one stage it was in doubt due to terrorism, that seems to have faded away and looks like it's going ahead. The rest of this article courtesy of BBC:

Davis Cup final: Belgium v Great Britain
Venue: Flanders Expo, Ghent Dates: 27-29 November
BBC coverage: Watch on BBC television, the BBC Sport website, Connected TVs, tablets, mobiles and app and listen on Radio 5 live and 5 live sports extra. Full details.
Kyle Edmund will make his Davis Cup debut in the final after he was selected as Britain's number two singles player to face Belgium.

Edmund, 20, will play David Goffin in the opening singles match at 12:30 GMT on Friday, followed by Andy Murray against Ruben Bemelmans.

Jamie Murray will join brother Andy for the doubles on Saturday.

Captain Leon Smith has retained James Ward for the reverse singles should the tie go to a fifth and final rubber.

The best-of-five tie takes place over three days at the Flanders Expo, with 13,000 spectators expected each day - including more than 1,000 British fans.

Great Britain are in the final for the first time since 1978 and are hoping to win their first Davis Cup since 1936, while Belgium have yet to win the competition.

Edmund will become only the sixth man in the 115-year history of the Davis Cup to make his debut in the final.

Davis Cup final draw
Day One David Goffin v Kyle Edmund; Ruben Bemelmans v Andy Murray
Day Two Kimmer Coppejans/Steve Darcis v Jamie Murray/Andy Murray
Day Three David Goffin v Andy Murray, Ruben Bemelmans v Kyle Edmund

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Post by Guest Fri 27 Nov 2015, 6:10 pm

Let's hope Murray now wraps this up 6-4 or 7-5.

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Post by Haddie-nuff Fri 27 Nov 2015, 6:15 pm

There have been times in this match when Andy has simply been outplayed.
The Belgian is producing some superb stuff

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Post by lags72 Fri 27 Nov 2015, 6:20 pm

We know that the lower-ranked guys can't make any impression (not in recent years at least) on the big boys where Slam & Masters titles are concerned.

But the sheer depth of quality in men's tennis is always revealing nonetheless. Can you imagine the generally unrecognisable Bemelmans rocking up at some local amateur Club level championship ...? It's hard to imagine anyone taking a single game off him Erm

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Post by Haddie-nuff Fri 27 Nov 2015, 6:23 pm

Totally agree, Ive never heard of him but what a revelation.
True, doubtless he is playing out of the top drawer because of who he is playing but credit to him.. he is so entertaining. He is showing how, if you mix up the game, you can rattle your opponent. Try it on Novak Wink

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Post by lags72 Fri 27 Nov 2015, 6:27 pm

Bemelmans - on this current form - tells us all we need to know about how unbelievably difficult it is to a) make it to the very highest level of the sport, and b) stay there.

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Post by Haddie-nuff Fri 27 Nov 2015, 6:31 pm

I agree totally. We do not give enough credit to those who are at the top and have been there for so long. Their work ethic, dedication and commitment is incredible really. We take them all for granted, and when they slip down the rankings we expect them to give us a reason as to why.
What a tough career they have carved out for themselves.

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Post by Haddie-nuff Fri 27 Nov 2015, 6:32 pm

Well done Andy but credit to your opponent for putting up such a fight.
The score line does not do the match justice.

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Post by Guest Fri 27 Nov 2015, 6:35 pm

lags72 wrote:Bemelmans - on this current form - tells us all we need to know about how unbelievably difficult it is to a) make it to the very highest level of the sport, and b) stay there.
The top players make it look simple but it is not. Quite often it is small margins but the players themselves when they step out on the court know the difference. Mano a mano. Murray beats most players regularly. But the top three (Federer, Nadal, Djokovic) beat Murray regularly in the important matches. That's why few junior slam champions go on to make much of an impact in the senior level. Oliver Golding never got beyond a ranking of 300 odd and then quit.

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Post by lags72 Fri 27 Nov 2015, 6:52 pm

Well a lively third set there. I would rather see a worthy opponent put on a good show - as did Bemelmans today - than being thrashed 2,1 and 0.

GB remain big favourites to win the DC for the first time since anyone can remember, but this afternoon proved it's no walk in the park.

Despite Bemelmans' fighting effort, it just goes down in the record books as another loss for him ; same for Kyle Edmund sadly, who at least went the distance.

Well played Andy and a great debut by Kyle.

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Post by Guest Sat 28 Nov 2015, 2:32 pm

Belgium doubles team is Goffin & Darcis - two very big servers.  I think they may have the advantage if their 1st serve percentage remains high.

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Post by lags72 Sat 28 Nov 2015, 3:18 pm

The Murrays sure have a fight on their hands here ......

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Post by temporary21 Sat 28 Nov 2015, 3:34 pm

Jamie needs to shore up here

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Post by temporary21 Sat 28 Nov 2015, 3:44 pm

Jamie really letting it down now

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Post by temporary21 Sat 28 Nov 2015, 3:46 pm

Rubbish game. Gb about to lose the dc

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Post by temporary21 Sat 28 Nov 2015, 3:48 pm

Rubbish game. Gb about to lose the dc

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Post by temporary21 Sat 28 Nov 2015, 3:51 pm

Jamie's back. Thank god

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Post by temporary21 Sat 28 Nov 2015, 4:05 pm

Gods sake. Jamie broken yet again. These two are a bad volleying team

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Post by Guest Sat 28 Nov 2015, 4:06 pm

temporary21 wrote:Rubbish game. Gb about to lose the dc
I agree that the doubles is pivotal in deciding the overall outcome of the dc. I would make Goffin & Darcis slight favorites given the home crowd advantage.

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Post by erictheblueuk Sat 28 Nov 2015, 4:19 pm

If you've got rubbish ground strokes just bunt the ball back and rush the net, seems to be Jamie's tactic.
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Post by Guest Sat 28 Nov 2015, 4:20 pm

Seems that GB have won the third set. 2 sets to 1 to GB.

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Post by temporary21 Sat 28 Nov 2015, 4:36 pm

Jamie's serve yet again

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Post by Guest Sat 28 Nov 2015, 4:45 pm

Come on GB

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Post by lags72 Sat 28 Nov 2015, 4:52 pm

The boys should make it to the finish line now.

They've been on their least favoured surface, away from home, their opponents have put up a strong fight at times, so all credit to the Murrays.

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Post by lags72 Sat 28 Nov 2015, 5:01 pm

Andy & Jamie clap

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Post by temporary21 Sat 28 Nov 2015, 5:03 pm

Gratz lads, great match.

Goffin or Andy have the chance to be heroes now.

One BIG point to note is that Goffin wont have much of a fatigue advantage now

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Post by Guest Sat 28 Nov 2015, 5:06 pm

Well fantastic from the Murrays, in particular Andy.

Well what an amazing opportunity now for GB and Andy.  Certainly it would be the biggest achievement for British Sport for a long long time.

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Post by JuliusHMarx Sat 28 Nov 2015, 5:09 pm

Wow - on the brink! Smile

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Post by lags72 Sat 28 Nov 2015, 5:14 pm

"Great Britain, Davis Cup Holders" : sounds a little weird, so I better not say it - yet.

Oops .....I just did.

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Post by Guest Sat 28 Nov 2015, 5:17 pm

Not so long ago GB (2010 & 2011) were playing in group two of the Euro-African zone.


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Post by Guest Sat 28 Nov 2015, 5:19 pm

I don't want to tempt fate but I would say this would be an achievement equivalent to Murray winning Wimbledon.

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Post by Jahu Sat 28 Nov 2015, 8:21 pm

Go Andy Go.

Would be a good end of the year gift for his not so good year.
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Post by Jahu Sat 28 Nov 2015, 8:24 pm

Nore Staat wrote:I don't want to tempt fate but I would say this would be an achievement equivalent to Murray winning Wimbledon.

Wimbledon was for Scotland and personal History.

This is for UK Empire.

So please no political stuff here, it's only sport Laugh

P.S: Where is CC btw? Has he been deported from London to Scotland?  Hug
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Post by Jahu Sat 28 Nov 2015, 8:30 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:Wow - on the brink! Smile

Though you keep your nationalistic side well suppressed, I will go out and buy a can of Greene King IPA and image I'm having a beer with you at JD Wetherspoon to celebrate the Davis Cup win  RedWine
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Post by sirfredperry Sun 29 Nov 2015, 7:41 am

Can't see Goffin getting more than one set against Andy who looked tremendous in the doubles yesterday, particularly on serve. This has so far gone the way most thought it would. Belgium would fight hard, but Andy would win his first singles and GB would take the doubles.
Beating the USA was the biggest achievement for GB, as they were never going to win the doubles and needed to find a point from somewhere else, with James Ward coming back from two sets down to beat Isner. It was that match that has made everything possible.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 29 Nov 2015, 9:59 am

Nore Staat wrote:I don't want to tempt fate but I would say this would be an achievement equivalent to Murray winning Wimbledon.

Hmm it depends on how you are looking at it? From a British tennis viewpoint then perhaps. From a personal Andy Murray viewpoint I don't think so.
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Post by lags72 Sun 29 Nov 2015, 11:26 am

CaledonianCraig wrote:
Nore Staat wrote:I don't want to tempt fate but I would say this would be an achievement equivalent to Murray winning Wimbledon.

Hmm it depends on how you are looking at it? From a British tennis viewpoint then perhaps. From a personal Andy Murray viewpoint I don't think so.

Andy himself gives his own thoughts on this - albeit from a more general perspective - in his BBC column :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/34929093

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 29 Nov 2015, 12:05 pm

Best of luck Andy. thumbsup
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sun 29 Nov 2015, 12:09 pm

Here we go. Good luck Andy!

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sun 29 Nov 2015, 12:13 pm

Goffin already looking a lot more settled and composed than on Friday, no that that's saying much. Probably easier being the underdog from a pressure perspective.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 29 Nov 2015, 12:17 pm

The one thing in Goffin's favour (apart from home support) is that is is his favoured surface and perhaps Andy's least-favoured surface.
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Post by LuvSports! Sun 29 Nov 2015, 12:17 pm

COME ON FED... wait sorry old habits. Come on Murray!

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sun 29 Nov 2015, 12:25 pm

Cracking play by Goffin to see off break point. Hotting up nicely!

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sun 29 Nov 2015, 12:30 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:The one thing in Goffin's favour (apart from home support) is that is is his favoured surface and perhaps Andy's least-favoured surface.
I think the switch from indoor hard to clay was probably the hardest thing for Andy. Should be acclimatised now though. Regardless of surface, Goffin needs to play out of his skin to stand a chance.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sun 29 Nov 2015, 12:35 pm

Gritty hold from Andy. Belgian crowd trying to rile him, but not sure that's going to work. He tends to like a bit of needle from the crowd.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sun 29 Nov 2015, 12:40 pm

Goffin's 2nd serve taking a beating. He needs to seriously up his first serve percentage. Andy breaks to love.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 29 Nov 2015, 12:43 pm

Wow what an incredible winner. Murray leads 5-2.
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sun 29 Nov 2015, 12:44 pm

Wonder how crucial the first set is here. Don't think Andy's lost a match this year after winning the first set. If Andy can close this set out, I can see Goffin's belief starting to waver.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 29 Nov 2015, 12:50 pm

Aut0Gr4ph wrote:Wonder how crucial the first set is here. Don't think Andy's lost a match this year after winning the first set. If Andy can close this set out, I can see Goffin's belief starting to waver.

Not just that but the physical element must creep in. Goffin played five sets on Friday and four sets yesterday so has already played two more sets than Andy who you would say has higher fitness levels than Goffin. If Goffin loses this set then he is going to have to put in a monumental effort to retrieve the situation.
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sun 29 Nov 2015, 12:53 pm

Don't want to jinx, but this is not the Murray we saw at the WTF. Looking very focussed indeed. However, Goffin saves 3 set points and keeps the set alive.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 29 Nov 2015, 12:56 pm

Murray seals the first set 6-3.
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