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Post by hawkeye Sun 06 Dec 2015, 9:21 pm

For a player to earn real money they need connections

Kyle Edmund earned $250,000 last night by beating Andy Murray at the Albert Hall in something called "Tie break tens".

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/dec/06/kyle-edmund-john-mcenroe-andy-murray-tie-break-tens-final

This is more than he earned this year on the main tour and more than half of his career earnings

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/kyle-edmund/e831/overview

David Goffin who is ranked number 16 and the player that beat Kyle Edmunds last week in DC only earned 4 times this much in the whole of 2015

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/david-goffin/gb88/overview

Hyeon Chung who is number 51 in the world earned just a few thousand more than this in the whole of 2015

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/hyeon-chung/ch27/overview

Nicolas Almagro former top ten player earned just a little over this figure for the entire year

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/nicolas-almagro/a479/overview

Taro Danial ranked several places higher than Kyle earned about half of this figure in the whole of 2015 and not much more than this in the whole of his career.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/taro-daniel/da81/overview

Nice work if you can get it


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Post by Born Slippy Sun 06 Dec 2015, 10:30 pm

$250,000 I believe...


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Post by hawkeye Sun 06 Dec 2015, 10:52 pm

Born Slippy wrote:$250,000 I believe...


True. I have changed £ to $ but it changes little because prize money is paid in $ too. The multiples remain the same.

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Post by Born Slippy Sun 06 Dec 2015, 11:06 pm

Cool. I'm not entirely sure what the point is though? Who does Kyle know? If your point is that because he's British he has more opportunity to earn more then that might be true. Of course, we don't know how much Taro Daniel gets paid to turn up for exhibitions in Japan.

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Post by YvonneT Mon 07 Dec 2015, 1:08 pm

He's represented by IMG - that's why he was there, as they were staging this exho. Won't most players around the top 100ish have some sort of management/representation? Of course, who the top agencies sign will depend on a number of factors other than potential such as nationality, looks. And the top agencies have more influence on wildcards etc. But who said life was fair?!

In the end though, you have to have the ability and the results: it didn't help Oli Golding to be British.

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Post by Guest Mon 07 Dec 2015, 2:37 pm

I hope the misconception isn't that Kyle was fortunate enough to gain this financial reward for an exho? Pretty sure other players get the same opportunities.

I agree with the title in part. Hey most of the players could freelance and play exho's and milk it.

End of the day this $250,000 could pay for Kyle to have a fitness/conditioning on board for a season which could lead to better results.

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Post by erictheblueuk Thu 31 Dec 2015, 1:30 pm

Kyle worked hard and won events on the tour to earn his DC Spot where he put up a good fight against Goffin. A lucrative exho is a reward for this work and success.

I remember Murray being rewarded like this when was coming up. His mum was his coach and he played McEnroe and lost. I recall him saying something like even though his mum was his coach he believed she wanted McEnroe to win as she was a Mac fan.
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Post by dummy_half Thu 07 Jan 2016, 12:50 pm

Well, looks like Kyle has decided the main tour is worth it, and has got off to a good start, winning his first two matches in Qatar. Drawn to play Berdych in the QF, having beaten Klizan (ranked in the top 50) and Munoz de Nava (ranked 75).

Projected to be back into the top 100 after this week, and it must be good for his confidence to get a couple of match wins at ATP tour level. Quite a challenging few months ahead though, in trying to transition from a regular contender at CH level to a player that can win matches against top 50 guys on a regular basis.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Thu 07 Jan 2016, 1:03 pm

yep, two good wins for Kyle this week so far, having come through qualifying. Munoz de la Nava had taken out Feliciano Lopez in the previous round, so it was a good win to back up a fine effort against Klizan in the first round.

I watched most of yesterday's match, and Kyle played pretty well. His BH has really improved, he hits it very flat and it's become a real weapon, his FH has always looked pretty useful. His only issue was letting a lead slip in the first (he was 5-2 up, lost it 7-5) and nearly again in the second (5-1 up, won it 6-3 after a tight game at 5-3) and not taking enough of his BP chances, some on which he was a bit passive.

Still, a very good effort to reach the QFs in a pretty decent field, let's hope he can do something special tonight...

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Post by Henman Bill Thu 07 Jan 2016, 7:32 pm

Makes good reading for Kyle to see five players left in this tournament including him, berdych, nadal and Djokovic. That's good company. I reckon he'll give a good account of himself against Berdych, don't see him winning it, but don't him losing 6-2 6-1 either.

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Post by dummy_half Thu 07 Jan 2016, 10:33 pm

Was a competent performance by Edmund against Berdych - lost 6-3 6-2, but had a couple of chances to break and plenty of rallies where he was able to match Berdych's ground strokes. Probably a fair scoreline though.

Edmund hits the ball well and his footwork is generally good, but he may benefit from losing a little weight to get faster (he's quite solidly built by the standards of the modern tennis player). Needs to get more from his serve and perhaps to work on variations and passing shots if he is to move to the upper end of the rankings, but he's coming along well at the moment.

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Post by bogbrush Fri 08 Jan 2016, 11:50 am

Probably another reason why there's no young talent in the game.
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Post by bogbrush Fri 08 Jan 2016, 11:50 am

Probably another reason why there's no young talent in the game.
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