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Post by yappysnap Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:54 am

First topic message reminder :

Just curious to see peoples thoughts on this. A lot is made of the whole England v Wales thing, but is that competitive spirit/dislike actually still as strong as it used to be?

For me I'd say the competitive side is as strong as ever. I have nothing against the Welsh, but they are definitely the fans that give out the most banter (digs) and they're the team that's probably caused England the most pain recently. They're also some of the best fans to chat rugby with in person, and from the times when I've randomly ended up watching games alongside them, can take criticism, a loss and a bit of mocking very well (as well as give it out). But they are definitely the team I dread losing to!

On the pitch I feel there are a few scores to settle as well namely that drubbing in Cardiff, and then the RWC loss (shudders). I hope who ever plays for England remembers those two defeats and uses that pain to make them come out with passion and play right on the edge. The 6n's is all about these historic games, where there is so much back story to every meeting, and this years England v Wales should be particularly spicy.

What other big rivalries are there in the 6N's now?

Feel free to let this become the wumming thread too...

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Post by munkian Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:17 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:And I'd say personally that views from everyone are welcome and discussed. There are posters who are pretty obviously just trying to be d**ks though.

Hmm, there does seem to be a trend with some English posters crying 'wum' and 'anti English' if Non English posters offer a different opinion mind.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:18 am

Really? Or is it basically gwlad that people are saying is a wum?

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Post by munkian Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:20 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:Really? Or is it basically gwlad that people are saying is a wum?

Over the years, not just recently.
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Post by No 7&1/2 Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:22 am

Oh. Like Ghost and his incarnations. Like I said it's differences of opinion then see through posters.

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:39 am

I try not to WUM at all. I try to post reasonable comments and opinions. Some based on fact some based on opinions.

WUMing rarely develops into anything other than negativity. I like to discuss the rugby, learn what other fans think and try and get a different perspective on the game as opposed to viewing the game through Navy Blue glasses.

The Wales vs England bickering has actually reached parody levels on several threads, and both sides can be as bad as each other.
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Post by LordDowlais Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:49 am

OK so can we all now agree that winning the 6N is not meaningless, no matter what happens afterwards ?

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Post by No 7&1/2 Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:53 am

You'd have to ask Pooly as he's basically saying it doesn't mean much in respect of world dominance, I think. All I want is to win every game England play.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:54 am

eirebilly wrote:I guess having so much provincial infighting on Irish threads has me blinded to excessive wumming then thumbsup

Haha...yea sounds like it Billy.

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Post by RDW Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:54 am

If none of you lot want to win the 6N then Scotland will happily take it off your hands! king

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Post by munkian Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:56 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:If none of you lot want to win the 6N then Scotland will happily take it off your hands! king

You'll only knock it on...
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Post by RDW Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:01 am

Laugh

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Post by lostinwales Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:04 am

If Wales manage to show the same kind of form as munkian we have no hope

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Post by munkian Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:08 am

lostinwales wrote:If Wales manage to show the same kind of form as munkian we have no hope

Need to find my boots...
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Post by LordDowlais Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:09 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:If none of you lot want to win the 6N then Scotland will happily take it off your hands! king

I love the 6N, LOVE IT, LOVE IT, LOVE IT.

There is no way on earth I would not want to win it, never, no matter what it meant in the wider world.

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Post by George Carlin Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:16 am

munkian wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:If none of you lot want to win the 6N then Scotland will happily take it off your hands! king

You'll only knock it on...
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Post by LordDowlais Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:26 am

Laugh

Just looked at that link, it has a picture of a very pretty girls and underneath it says "The ride of your life" I hope they were being ironic. Whistle

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:32 am

Gwlad wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:
munkian wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Winning the 6N would be a step in the right direction but I'd rather win all of the AI games against the best teams in the world.


If you can't do the former the latter seems rather unlikely

The AI's are 6 month further down the line and all at home. Losing away to Ireland or Wales is a possibility, especially early in Jones tenure.

I dont think losing away is a 'possibility', i think its probable. You have a short memory.

It's just as well England play Wales and Ireland at Twickenham then.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:33 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:And I'd say personally that views from everyone are welcome and discussed. There are posters who are pretty obviously just trying to be d**ks though.

And they don't have to try that hard.

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Post by aucklandlaurie Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:19 pm

eirebilly wrote:I guess having so much provincial infighting on Irish threads has me blinded to excessive wumming then thumbsup

Irish diplomatic immunity?

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Post by RDW Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:20 pm

aucklandlaurie wrote:
eirebilly wrote:I guess having so much provincial infighting on Irish threads has me blinded to excessive wumming then thumbsup

Irish diplomatic immunity?

that will be an ecumenical matter...

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Post by eirebilly Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:22 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
eirebilly wrote:I guess having so much provincial infighting on Irish threads has me blinded to excessive wumming then thumbsup

Irish diplomatic immunity?

that will be an ecumenical matter...

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Post by aucklandlaurie Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:25 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
eirebilly wrote:I guess having so much provincial infighting on Irish threads has me blinded to excessive wumming then thumbsup

Irish diplomatic immunity?

that will be an ecumenical matter...


Irish fighting all the way from Father Jack to the Holy father. all with immunity.

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Post by eirebilly Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:27 pm

Laurie old chap, you know us Irish are harmless really thumbsup
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Post by aucklandlaurie Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:29 pm

eirebilly wrote:Laurie old chap, you know us Irish are harmless really thumbsup

I do, I do. I do, In my Irish accent.

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Post by gregortree Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:38 pm

Paddies on here seem a lot more relaxed about their place in the rugby universe. 6n champs..currently and a few times recent past.
Strong regional clubs.
Had a quiet RWC, but then Scotland apart, who in Europe did not ?
I hardly witness any Irish English wumming on 606 if that indicates anything about Irish confidence.

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Post by mikey_dragon Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:39 pm

gregortree wrote:Paddies on here seem a lot more relaxed about their place in the rugby universe. 6n champs..currently and a few times recent past.
Strong regional clubs.
Had a quiet RWC, but then Scotland apart, who in Europe did not ?  
I hardly witness any Irish English wumming on 606 if that indicates anything about Irish confidence.

Scotland.

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Post by gregortree Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:53 pm

Scotland did well compared to the rest. Aus did for them finally...just...having destroyed England and seen off Wales.
Scotland did better against the finalists Aus than anyone else, a bounce away from beating them.

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Post by mikey_dragon Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:10 pm

Scotland were destroyed themselves, by SA, and managed to limp past Samoa. They weren't better than anyone else, and perhaps performance wise a bit worse - this is why I don't get why people say they did really well. They did much better than previously, so perhaps they're one of the most improved teams.

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Post by DirtyRucker7 Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:14 pm

I like it when Wales beat Scotland and Ireland,both teams are experts in the excuse department when they lose but borderline arrogant when they win

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Post by mikey_dragon Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:46 pm

^^^ Probably won't go down well with a few high horses frequenting this site... Have to agree, but I guess some of us can be pretty arrogant when winning too Very Happy.

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Post by BamBam Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:46 pm

DirtyRucker7 wrote:I like it when Wales beat Scotland and Ireland,both teams are experts in the excuse department when they lose but borderline arrogant when they win

I can see you're going to be a great addition to these boards, welcome

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Post by DirtyRucker7 Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:05 pm

Thankyou bambam, just an opinion, but i do respect both teams they both have fantastic players

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Post by Gwlad Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:40 am

DirtyRucker7 wrote:I like it when Wales beat Scotland and Ireland,both teams are experts in the excuse department when they lose but borderline arrogant when they win

What is 'borderline' arrogant…you either are or not

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Post by Gwlad Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:23 am

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:
Gwlad wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:
munkian wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Winning the 6N would be a step in the right direction but I'd rather win all of the AI games against the best teams in the world.


If you can't do the former the latter seems rather unlikely

The AI's are 6 month further down the line and all at home. Losing away to Ireland or Wales is a possibility, especially early in Jones tenure.

I dont think losing away is a 'possibility', i think its probable. You have a short memory.

It's just as well England play Wales and Ireland at Twickenham then.

Quite, and twickenham hasn't brought us much luck in recent years.

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