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Post by laverfan Tue 26 Jan 2016, 9:20 pm

First topic message reminder :

Order of Play - http://www.ausopen.com/en_AU/scores/schedule/schedule15.html

Live Scores - http://www.ausopen.com/en_AU/scores/index.html

Day 10 Preview - http://www.ausopen.com/en_AU/news/articles/2016-01-26/day_10_preview_murrays_mind_management.html

My predictions...

Kerber in 3

Konta in 3

Murray in 4

Raonic in 5


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Post by bogbrush Wed 27 Jan 2016, 7:14 am

Just switched on - what were the commentators talking about "distractions"?
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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 27 Jan 2016, 7:16 am

bogbrush wrote:Just switched on - what were the commentators talking about "distractions"?

I think it was the live action on the scoreboard at the corner of the court.
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed 27 Jan 2016, 7:16 am

Yes, you really don't want to give encouragement to a player like Ferrer. He's been looking leggy for a while now, but a second wind is not out of the question.

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Post by bogbrush Wed 27 Jan 2016, 7:19 am

This is crazy, to be held up by Ferrer. Why he he getting so angry all the time?
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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 27 Jan 2016, 7:21 am

bogbrush wrote:This is crazy, to be held up by Ferrer. Why he he getting so angry all the time?

As you know bb Andy is his own worst enemy. He won the first set and mentally shutdown and surrendered advantage losing the second set although had chances to take control of it. Even now he is feeding crumbs of hope to Ferrer. Ruthless is what I want to see but it is more toothless at times when chances come along. Damn frustrating.
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed 27 Jan 2016, 7:26 am

Massive hold there. Was starting to worry we had another Miami 13 on our hands.....

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 27 Jan 2016, 7:34 am

Murray wins 6-3 6-7 6-2 6-3 and goes into the semis. Ferrer gave it his all but ran out of steam. Murray's focus needs work.
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Post by Born Slippy Wed 27 Jan 2016, 7:35 am

An hour longer on court than necessary the price for an awful first set and a half. Still, no harm done and hopefully that's his muggish match of the tournament out of the way.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 27 Jan 2016, 7:39 am

Born Slippy wrote:An hour longer on court than necessary the price for an awful first set and a half. Still, no harm done and hopefully that's his muggish match of the tournament out of the way.

Well he won the first set. The reason this match dragged on was how he switched off at the start of the second set which he ended up losing.
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed 27 Jan 2016, 7:49 am

Thought it was a respectable performance once he settled into the match midway through the 2nd set. Totally controlled the play from the 3rd set onwards. Plenty of room for improvement though and won't be striking fear into the hearts of the big beasts on the other side.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 27 Jan 2016, 7:56 am

Aut0Gr4ph wrote:Thought it was a respectable performance once he settled into the match midway through the 2nd set. Totally controlled the play from the 3rd set onwards. Plenty of room for improvement though and won't be striking fear into the hearts of the big beasts on the other side.

I suppose, speaking from a Murray follower's view point, that the hope is this was his sloppy performance for the tournament. However, I stand by what I said in that he needs to cut out these big lapses in concentration and be more ruthless when ahead. Sure it won't count for much against lesser opponents but Roger and Novak feed on those weaknesses. I did say after the 3rd Round that I'd be happy for him to reach the final as at the moment he isn't in the right place to challenge Roger or Novak and I still stand by that. Obviously, I hope I am wrong but my experience of following Murray tells me I won't be.
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Post by Haddie-nuff Wed 27 Jan 2016, 8:07 am

I think you have ALL forgotten that Andy is to become a father sooner rather than later.. he is bound to have lapses of concentration. he has admitted that he is finding it difficult in his off court moments and is constantly on the phone to home. Room service couldn't get any reply from him at breakfast the other morning. they telephoned.. and he said he panicked when he heard the phone ring..Give the lad some leeway Smile

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 27 Jan 2016, 8:17 am

Haddie-nuff wrote:I think you have ALL forgotten that Andy is to become a father sooner rather than later.. he is bound to have lapses of concentration. he has admitted that he is finding it difficult in his off court moments and is constantly on the phone to home. Room service couldn't get any reply from him at breakfast the other morning. they telephoned.. and he said he panicked when he heard the phone ring..Give the lad some leeway Smile

Yes I do realise that Haddie-nuff and you may have a point but these traits run true throughout Andy's career even with nothing on his mind.
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Post by Haddie-nuff Wed 27 Jan 2016, 8:25 am

True I have been the first to criticise him on that point . but he has been somewhat better over recent times.. hopefully this is a relapse..he has done well to battle through in spite of being distracted by a sick father in law and pending fatherhood. I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt and IM not his No.1. fan CC Wink

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 27 Jan 2016, 8:28 am

Haddie-nuff wrote:True I have been the first to criticise him on that point . but he has been somewhat better over recent times.. hopefully this is a relapse..he has done well to battle through in spite of being distracted by a sick father in law and pending fatherhood. I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt and IM not his No.1. fan CC Wink

Fair enough. But even if those things are bugging him then it is even more a reason to say he can't win the title. For him to beat Novak and Roger he needs everything to fall into place and he won't beat them carrying mental baggage.
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Post by Haddie-nuff Wed 27 Jan 2016, 8:52 am

Awww your a hard man CC Very Happy

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 27 Jan 2016, 8:58 am

Haddie-nuff wrote:Awww your a hard man CC Very Happy

Hard but fair I like to think. Wink
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Post by barrystar Wed 27 Jan 2016, 9:13 am

Haddie-nuff wrote:I think you have ALL forgotten that Andy is to become a father sooner rather than later.. he is bound to have lapses of concentration. he has admitted that he is finding it difficult in his off court moments and is constantly on the phone to home. Room service couldn't get any reply from him at breakfast the other morning. they telephoned.. and he said he panicked when he heard the phone ring..Give the lad some leeway Smile

When Federer was expecting to become a father in 2009 he was busy winning the RG/Wimbledon double - he famously smashed a racquet at Miami and cried at Aus Open, but in the run in to the birth he kept it under wraps, and RG was one of the most emotional slams he played

When Djokovic was expecting to become a father in 2014 he won Wimbledon then had that loss to Nishkori, but he kept it together.

I like Andy, but his on-court behaviour is a liability both for his concentration and for his image - it's not impressive and there's no need to generate feeble excuses to cut him slack that he doesn't deserve.  He can control it if he tries, we know that because he didn't do it to anything like the same extent when Lendl was watching.
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Post by Haddie-nuff Wed 27 Jan 2016, 9:22 am

Oh we realise that Federer comes out on top yet again !!!

Let me remind you I am not a particular fan of Andy as CC well knows but these players are human and we do not ALL react to situations the same way.. he has also had a sick father in law to worry about.. If Andy gets called to arms he has a days flight to face before he can reach her.

Dear God you people !!!

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Post by Jahu Wed 27 Jan 2016, 9:27 am

Come on Raonic, take it in 3.
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Post by coolpixel Wed 27 Jan 2016, 9:29 am

I have said before, Murray has more motivation issues than the other 3.

it's not his game. he's got that. it'd not his fitness. he's got that either. it's just down to what's between his ears and I think that's primarily motivation, drive, call it what you want.

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Post by bogbrush Wed 27 Jan 2016, 9:43 am

I can't agree with you on this Haddie (I know, shock!!), us guys aren't the same as you ladies - we're generally made with stronger barriers in our minds. Maybe it's an evolutionary thing, but we focus better and are more likely to compartmentalise (the flip side of not multi-tasking so well, and being unable to see what's in front of us whe looking for something?). When Mrs B was having our kids I was no different at work than normal, and thrilled as i was I got back to business fast (to be fair, Mrs B is pretty determined too - I guess some might say she has to be).

What Andy does is what Andy does; he always gets angry and has these moments. In his favour they don't seem to drag him down over the length of an event but against the biggest boys I've seen them hurt him mid-match. He's going to be strong favourite in the semi (though he'd far prefer Monfils), so he can screw all his focus up and stick it on one match.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 27 Jan 2016, 9:52 am

coolpixel wrote:I have said before, Murray has more motivation issues than the other 3.

it's not his game.  he's got that. it'd not his fitness. he's got that either. it's just down to what's between his ears and I think that's primarily motivation, drive, call it what you want.

Agree and disagree. Andy does not lack motivation it is what is between the ears though as you put it. Lack of focus/loss of concentration and less ability than the very best players to finish a match off when he is on top is a failing as well as second serve of course.
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Post by Haddie-nuff Wed 27 Jan 2016, 10:10 am

bogbrush wrote:I can't agree with you on this Haddie (I know, shock!!), us guys aren't the same as you ladies - we're generally made with stronger barriers in our minds. Maybe it's an evolutionary thing, but we focus better and are more likely to compartmentalise (the flip side of not multi-tasking so well, and being unable to see what's in front of us whe looking for something?). When Mrs B was having our kids I was no different at work than normal, and thrilled as i was I got back to business fast (to be fair, Mrs B is pretty determined too - I guess some might say she has to be).

What Andy does is what Andy does; he always gets angry and has these moments. In his favour they don't seem to drag him down over the length of an event but against the biggest boys I've seen them hurt him mid-match. He's going to be strong favourite in the semi (though he'd far prefer Monfils), so he can screw all his focus up and stick it on one match.

I am not entirely oblivious to the fact that you men cope better normally than us in these circumstances but the point I am making is that the birth is fairly imminent and he has  full days flight and then some should she decide to go into labour whilst he is in Oz .. I also however wholeheartedly concede that Andy's on court antics have always been his downfall and have said so on many occasions.

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Post by HM Murdock Wed 27 Jan 2016, 10:14 am

bogbrush wrote:...being unable to see what's in front of us we looking for something
I'm glad it's not just me!

I've become so useless in this regard that I'm wondering if I have a syndrome of some sort.

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Post by Jahu Wed 27 Jan 2016, 10:20 am

Senility? Laugh
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Post by Josiah Maiestas Wed 27 Jan 2016, 10:34 am

Gael is the definition of a flat track bully picard

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Post by bogbrush Wed 27 Jan 2016, 11:10 am

HM Murdock wrote:
bogbrush wrote:...being unable to see what's in front of us we looking for something
I'm glad it's not just me!

I've become so useless in this regard that I'm wondering if I have a syndrome of some sort.
Mrs B delights in marching up to be as I declare "there isn't any xxx, why haven't we got any?" and picking it up in front of me.

There is a serious evolutionary logic to this that I'm happy to share if anyone is interested.
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Post by Jahu Wed 27 Jan 2016, 11:32 am

Raonic can win this AO only on serve.
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 27 Jan 2016, 11:59 am

bogbrush wrote:
HM Murdock wrote:
bogbrush wrote:...being unable to see what's in front of us we looking for something
I'm glad it's not just me!

I've become so useless in this regard that I'm wondering if I have a syndrome of some sort.
Mrs B delights in marching up to be as I declare "there isn't any xxx, why haven't we got any?" and picking it up in front of me.

There is a serious evolutionary logic to this that I'm happy to share if anyone is interested.

Yay I'm not alone! Mrs MFC used to get quite irate when I ask her where such-and-such is. She'd go "just look for it and you'll find it" to which I'd respond that usually that would see me look for something for 10 minutes, still not find it, and go back to ask her, and she'd immediately know where it is. So why not ask her directly and save everyone's time? She's got more accepting to be fair to her, sometimes I wonder why she puts up with me Very Happy

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Post by Haddie-nuff Wed 27 Jan 2016, 12:24 pm

I think I speak with some authority being a wife and mother of two sons..
frankly I think it is all a clever ploy by you men, because at the end of the day its a sight easier for us women to go and get the bliddy thing rather than try telling you where it is.. so job done eh chaps saves you getting off your backsides... when you are left to your own devices the said article has to jump out of the cupboard and bite your leg Very Happy  Rolling Eyes

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Post by Born Slippy Wed 27 Jan 2016, 12:35 pm

Murray does seem very emotional for a man. I was surprised he said he only decided on the morning of the Tomic match that he was going to play, after Nigel Sears' collapse. Can't fault him for that - seems he's genuinely a caring family-orientated guy - but it probably isn't ideal for a tennis player.

That said, I very much have the impression that the impending birth has had zero impact on his tennis. He's clearly got himself in great form and if he fails to win it will probably be due to a combination of his own weaknesses when it gets to the end of slams and the fact he's up against some fairly handy players. I think today he was probably a bit over-confident - Ferrer is no longer a threat to him as he can basically over-power him at will - and sluggish as a result.

Good result for him as well with Raonic winning. He's a better match up for Andy and, whilst there is of course risk, if Andy does get through the shorter rallies should mean he is fresh for the final.

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Post by barrystar Wed 27 Jan 2016, 12:50 pm

Haddie-nuff wrote:I think I speak with some authority being a wife and mother of two sons..
frankly I think it is all a clever ploy by you men, because at the end of the day its a sight easier for us women to go and get the bliddy thing rather than try telling you where it is.. so job done eh chaps saves you getting off your backsides... when you are left to your own devices the said article has to jump out of the cupboard and bite your leg Very Happy  Rolling Eyes

There's something in that - as a man I think that we are basically lazier and more self-indulgent than women, although bit by bit that is getting more difficult to get away with, which is obviously a good thing.
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Post by HM Murdock Wed 27 Jan 2016, 1:04 pm

Born Slippy wrote:Murray does seem very emotional for a man.
Best quote I've seen for some time!

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Post by bogbrush Wed 27 Jan 2016, 1:23 pm

Haddie-nuff wrote:I think I speak with some authority being a wife and mother of two sons..
frankly I think it is all a clever ploy by you men, because at the end of the day its a sight easier for us women to go and get the bliddy thing rather than try telling you where it is.. so job done eh chaps saves you getting off your backsides... when you are left to your own devices the said article has to jump out of the cupboard and bite your leg Very Happy  Rolling Eyes
There is an element of truth in this. I have been very wary of ever demonstrating competence in anything domestic to Mrs B for that very reason. That said, it has a symbiotic effect - she much prefers my incompetence because it increases the sense of dependency on her which she likes, and gives her a nice flush of superiority, which costs me nothing.

However, there is I think a more fundamental point.

We men evolved to go out an find stuff like food etc. (mainly for you ladies). That meant we had to move over a wide area, looking often to the horizon, remember places and their positions, judging distance and perspective. The ladies tended to stay at camp looking after the kids. As a result we needed distance sight, spatial conception, that sort of thing. You needed close up focus and attention to the nearby. Hence, our brains developed that way and I can't find the damn coffee.

This also had another effect. We went out in groups and entered dangerous situations with either rival groups, or animals. We needed to rely on each other, so men developed a sense of camiraderie such that we tend once having made an alliance to stick with it - we make friends and usually don't change that list much. We're also fairly tolerant in those friendships for stuff - we don't fall out easily, or if we do it's resolved quickly. We had to evolve that way because we couldn't be squabbling incessantly on the hunt. Now the females....... well do I need to say anything more?


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Post by bogbrush Wed 27 Jan 2016, 1:25 pm

HM Murdock wrote:
Born Slippy wrote:Murray does seem very emotional for a man.
Best quote I've seen for some time!
He didn't have a father in the house hence probably grew up with a dangerously large amount of female influence.
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 27 Jan 2016, 1:33 pm

can we stray away from the casual sexism please?

not referring to BB's post re evolution BTW, which was interesting. Actually the evolution of the dynamic of the Male-Female relationship is a fascinating study in itself.

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Post by HM Murdock Wed 27 Jan 2016, 1:36 pm

bogbrush wrote:
HM Murdock wrote:
Born Slippy wrote:Murray does seem very emotional for a man.
Best quote I've seen for some time!
He didn't have a father in the house hence probably grew up with a dangerously large amount of female influence.
I bet he's good at finding things in cupboards though.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 27 Jan 2016, 1:47 pm

obviously not...

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Post by Danny_1982 Wed 27 Jan 2016, 1:51 pm

Can't see how Murray can win this tournament. I think he will beat Raonic but can I see him beating Novak or Roger? No. He's not playing well enough.

Roger will just go all out attack and Murray can't handle that. He may stay with Novak for a while, but in their last few slam matches Novak has just waited and Andy has wilted eventually.

I wish I was wrong but I'm certain he's going to end as runner up.

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Post by Duty281 Wed 27 Jan 2016, 1:57 pm

Can't see Murray getting past Raonic, in all fairness.

The Canadian has had a wonderful tournament thus far, is in masterful form, and his excellent service game (if maintained to its current level) should see Murray put under too much pressure.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 27 Jan 2016, 2:11 pm

Duty281 wrote:Can't see Murray getting past Raonic, in all fairness.

The Canadian has had a wonderful tournament thus far, is in masterful form, and his excellent service game (if maintained to its current level) should see Murray put under too much pressure.

Yes he has a wonderful service game but it's not impenetrable. Stan took two sets off him and Monfils took one set off him and I don't think anyone here would argue that Murray has a better return of serve than both of those players.

I'd be disappointed if Murray loses but not catastrophic although it would mean he would slip to No.3 in the rankings.
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Post by YvonneT Wed 27 Jan 2016, 2:19 pm

Bookmakers' odds for the semi-finals are putting chances at roughly:
Djokovic-Federer 75/25
Murray-Raonic 70/30

I do think both Djokovic and Murray are overstated there - especially as the forecast is rain for both, so likely to be indoors (think this helps Raonic in his more than Federer).

They feel to me more like
Djokovic-Federer 66/34
Murray-Raonic 55/45 or maybe even 50/50.

Not sure about the last one - certainly not confident about Murray's chances. However, Raonic was poor in his only previous slam semi, so depends if he can maintain his composure as well as he has so far this year.

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Post by Haddie-nuff Wed 27 Jan 2016, 2:21 pm

bogbrush wrote:
Haddie-nuff wrote:I think I speak with some authority being a wife and mother of two sons..
frankly I think it is all a clever ploy by you men, because at the end of the day its a sight easier for us women to go and get the bliddy thing rather than try telling you where it is.. so job done eh chaps saves you getting off your backsides... when you are left to your own devices the said article has to jump out of the cupboard and bite your leg Very Happy  Rolling Eyes
There is an element of truth in this. I have been very wary of ever demonstrating competence in anything domestic to Mrs B for that very reason. That said, it has a symbiotic effect - she much prefers my incompetence because it increases the sense of dependency on her which she likes, and gives her a nice flush of superiority, which costs me nothing.

However, there is I think a more fundamental point.

We men evolved to go out an find stuff like food etc. (mainly for you ladies). That meant we had to move over a wide area, looking often to the horizon, remember places and their positions, judging distance and perspective. The ladies tended to stay at camp looking after the kids. As a result we needed distance sight, spatial conception, that sort of thing. You needed close up focus and attention to the nearby. Hence, our brains developed that way and I can't find the damn coffee.

This also had another effect. We went out in groups and entered dangerous situations with either rival groups, or animals. We needed to rely on each other, so men developed a sense of camiraderie such that we tend once having made an alliance to stick with it - we make friends and usually don't change that list much. We're also fairly tolerant in those friendships for stuff - we don't fall out easily, or if we do it's resolved quickly. We had to evolve that way because we couldn't be squabbling incessantly on the hunt. Now the females....... well do I need to say anything more?

You know BB in all the years Ive known you you have never made me laugh more.. not in the cynical sense, but the true sense of the word.. laughing  you are in grave danger my man of showing yourself up in your true colours, I suspected that you were the epitome of the MCP and now I know Im correct... I have every sympathy with that long suffering wife of yours and she should be nominated for a sainthood. do pass on my condolences  Very Happy

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Post by bogbrush Wed 27 Jan 2016, 3:07 pm

Which bit? Shocked angel
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Post by lags72 Wed 27 Jan 2016, 3:15 pm

bogbrush wrote:


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There is an element of truth in this. I have been very wary of ever demonstrating competence in anything domestic to Mrs B for that very reason. That said, it has a symbiotic effect - she much prefers my incompetence because it increases the sense of dependency on her which she likes, and gives her a nice flush of superiority, which costs me nothing.

However, there is I think a more fundamental point.

We men evolved to go out an find stuff like food etc. (mainly for you ladies). That meant we had to move over a wide area, looking often to the horizon, remember places and their positions, judging distance and perspective. The ladies tended to stay at camp looking after the kids. As a result we needed distance sight, spatial conception, that sort of thing. You needed close up focus and attention to the nearby. Hence, our brains developed that way and I can't find the damn coffee.

This also had another effect. We went out in groups and entered dangerous situations with either rival groups, or animals. We needed to rely on each other, so men developed a sense of camiraderie such that we tend once having made an alliance to stick with it - we make friends and usually don't change that list much. We're also fairly tolerant in those friendships for stuff - we don't fall out easily, or if we do it's resolved quickly. We had to evolve that way because we couldn't be squabbling incessantly on the hunt. Now the females....... well do I need to say anything more?

Post of the day for me thumbsup

We could do with some of this stuff on Eurosport (maybe during the changeovers .......?)

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Post by Born Slippy Wed 27 Jan 2016, 3:27 pm

YvonneT wrote:Bookmakers' odds for the semi-finals are putting chances at roughly:
Djokovic-Federer 75/25
Murray-Raonic 70/30

I do think both Djokovic and Murray are overstated there - especially as the forecast is rain for both, so likely to be indoors (think this helps Raonic in his more than Federer).

They feel to me more like
Djokovic-Federer 66/34
Murray-Raonic 55/45 or maybe even 50/50.

Not sure about the last one - certainly not confident about Murray's chances. However, Raonic was poor in his only previous slam semi, so depends if he can maintain his composure as well as he has so far this year.

Djokovic is overstated I think. I would put that more at 60-40.
Murray seems about right to me - I'd expect him to beat Raonic, given Murray's current level, at least 7 times out of 10. Indoors helps Murray, not the other way around.

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Post by laverfan Wed 27 Jan 2016, 3:37 pm

@BB... classic hunter-gatherer, eh!

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Post by Haddie-nuff Wed 27 Jan 2016, 3:44 pm

bogbrush wrote:Which bit? Shocked    angel
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Post by Danny_1982 Wed 27 Jan 2016, 3:44 pm

If Murray gets the serve back a decent amount of the time then he'll win. He's great at reading serves, and I think he'll work it out on Friday.

One of the serves he really struggles to work out is Federer's. But most others, especially the big servers of the game, he tends to work out pretty well.

As I said earlier, I'm really confident that Murray will make the final. But have very little confidence that he'll beat either of his potential final opponents.

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