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Post by laverfan Sun 31 Jan 2016, 4:54 am

First topic message reminder :

Order of Play - http://www.ausopen.com/en_AU/scores/schedule/schedule19.html

Live Scores - http://www.ausopen.com/en_AU/scores/index.html

Day 14 Preview - http://www.ausopen.com/en_AU/news/articles/2016-01-31/ao_analyst_how_murray_can_beat_djokovic.html

(Apologies for being tardy...)

No predictions from me, but Murray has his work cut-out if he wants the Norman Brooks Trophy.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:11 am

Imperative Andy holds here. Critical.
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Post by Haddie-nuff Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:12 am

Doing wonders for my blood pressure mad Not

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Post by Born Slippy Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:13 am

This game is so Murray.

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Post by Jahu Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:13 am

Yes yesssss keep it up.
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Post by Haddie-nuff Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:13 am

That's more like it

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Post by Jahu Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:14 am

Perfect, Djoko melting.

Crush himmmm
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Post by Haddie-nuff Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:15 am

What a hold Very Happy

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:15 am

Well played Andy - those are the sort of games you have to win.
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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:17 am

Some absolutely insane tennis here.

Andy must feel like he's trying to beat a brick wall at times.
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:18 am

Huge hold from Andy. Fair to say he's dictating the play now. Thing is, although Andy is matching Novak, you still feel he is having to invest so much more to be able to do it. Over the course of a 5 setter, that is likely to tell eventually.

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Post by Born Slippy Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:19 am

christ these unforced errors are annoying.

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Post by Haddie-nuff Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:20 am

Well it is at least good to see him good humoured if nothing else

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Post by Born Slippy Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:20 am

15-30 and three very winnable points. Argh!!!

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:20 am

Born Slippy wrote:christ these unforced errors are annoying.

Getting close to Djoko proportions V Simon.
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Post by Born Slippy Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:21 am

Huge game here. Hold and I think he will break next game.

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Post by Danny_1982 Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:23 am

The conclusion to this is inevitable. Murray dictating the points but looks like erupting mentally at any point. He's using up so much energy in negative emotion that I'm not sure what will come first...

The physical or the mental implosion!

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Post by Born Slippy Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:23 am

Great point from Novak. Andy needs this point badly,

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Post by bogbrush Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:24 am

The physical implosion is close.
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Post by Born Slippy Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:25 am

Unreal rally.

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Post by Born Slippy Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:26 am

Superb from Novak in that game.

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Post by LuvSports! Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:27 am

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:27 am

And that is that one thinks. Great play by Novak upped his game when he most needed it. Andy's first serve deserted him when he needed it most when 40-0 up. Djokovic wins this set he wins in straights.
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:28 am

Sickening for Andy to be broken from 40-0 up, but huge credit to Novak for upping his level. Showed why he is dominant number one in that game.

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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:29 am

Oh dear - I think thats done for Andy.

You don't come back from 2 sets down against Djokovic.
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Post by Haddie-nuff Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:29 am

There is no way Andy has enough in the tank for another 3 sets against wonder boy

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:31 am

Interesting analysis from Mats, who reckons Andy has got Novak right where he wants him. Err, no.

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Post by Haddie-nuff Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:31 am

DF from Novak... jeeze unheard of

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:31 am

Wow - I'll say no more than that.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:32 am

Those are the big points Andy had to win. Sad
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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:32 am

Nole shows he might just be human after all - 2 successive double faults. Shocked
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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:33 am

Djokovic leads 6-1 7-5 and is on the verge of equalling Roy Emerson's of six Australian Open titles.
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Post by Guest Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:34 am

Feeble!

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Post by Haddie-nuff Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:35 am

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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:36 am

Well no-one can deny Murray gave this one his all. Made Novak work his socks off for that set.

Just a few too many unforced errors at crucial points...the slim margins between being #1 and #2.
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Post by Danny_1982 Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:36 am

And that's the difference. At times Murray's tennis was superb, but he committed mental suicide again! Berating himself and his corner, and consequently missing some straight forward rally shots.

That's the difference between great and very good... Mental toughness. Emotional control.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:38 am

And that is almost certainly that. At least it was a contest in the 2nd. Andy just needs to relax and go all out. He managed a revival at the French and took it to 5. Can he do it again? Somehow I doubt it, but you never know.

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Post by Guest Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:41 am

Andy yet again the bridesmaid. A fitting label.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:45 am

No this is done now. Small margins and not taking the chances in the second set and not turning up for the first.

The second set Murray should watch back as he was on top in the rallies for long spells and had Djoko under the cosh - something to take heart from but his seventh slam final defeat will still be hard to take. He'll have a long time to mull it over as I do believe he is not scheduled to play again until March.
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:48 am

legendkillarV2 wrote:Feeble!
Think that's harsh. The 1st set was feeble, but the 2nd emphatically not. Andy just wasn't good enough, but I don't blame him for that. In a grand slam final, when Novak is totally focused, he is an incredibly difficult proposition and, let's face it, simply the superior player compared to Andy.

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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:51 am

We can only speculate how this might have panned out if Andy had managed to find a similar level in the first set.

Don't think we should be too hard on him though. A lot of shots he played in the second set would have been winners against any other player. Nole is just an inhumanly good player....even when he makes mistakes, he finds a way to make sure they don't end up costing him too much.

I think its also worth mentioning Novak had an extra day to recover for this match. Murray had a tough 5-setter against Raonic while Djokovic beat Federer in 4.


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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:52 am

Aut0Gr4ph wrote:
legendkillarV2 wrote:Feeble!
Think that's harsh. The 1st set was feeble, but the 2nd emphatically not. Andy just wasn't good enough, but I don't blame him for that. In a grand slam final, when Novak is totally focused, he is an incredibly difficult proposition and, let's face it, simply the superior player compared to Andy.

Ignore Leg-End. He's just a troll, looking for someone to bite so he can get into an argument. I've got him on my ignore list, so I don't have to read his rubbish.  Rolling Eyes
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:53 am

And add to that that this is clearly Novak's favourite surface and slam. He's virtually unbeatable here. Is it any wonder that Andy concedes a mental disadvantage. Roger is no different, although perhaps age gives him more of an excuse.

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Post by Guest Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:53 am

Aut0Gr4ph wrote:
legendkillarV2 wrote:Feeble!
Think that's harsh. The 1st set was feeble, but the 2nd emphatically not. Andy just wasn't good enough, but I don't blame him for that. In a grand slam final, when Novak is totally focused, he is an incredibly difficult proposition and, let's face it, simply the superior player compared to Andy.

It's not harsh. You said it right there. Feeble first set. It's lunacy and stupidity to think you can gift a first set in a BO5 against the best player in the world. The 2nd set that missed volley would've give him BP. Different outcome given the momentum to Andy. The heavier shots he played troubled and had Novak on the back foot and now he has recoiled into his shell.

Someone showing up for one set is feeble.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:54 am

dyrewolfe wrote:
Aut0Gr4ph wrote:
legendkillarV2 wrote:Feeble!
Think that's harsh. The 1st set was feeble, but the 2nd emphatically not. Andy just wasn't good enough, but I don't blame him for that. In a grand slam final, when Novak is totally focused, he is an incredibly difficult proposition and, let's face it, simply the superior player compared to Andy.

Ignore Leg-End. He's just a troll, looking for someone to bite so he can get into an argument. I've got him on my ignore list, so I don't have to read his rubbish.  Rolling Eyes
I don't think he's a troll.

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Post by Guest Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:55 am

dyrewolfe wrote:
Aut0Gr4ph wrote:
legendkillarV2 wrote:Feeble!
Think that's harsh. The 1st set was feeble, but the 2nd emphatically not. Andy just wasn't good enough, but I don't blame him for that. In a grand slam final, when Novak is totally focused, he is an incredibly difficult proposition and, let's face it, simply the superior player compared to Andy.

Ignore Leg-End. He's just a troll, looking for someone to bite so he can get into an argument. I've got him on my ignore list, so I don't have to read his rubbish.  Rolling Eyes

Says the muppet who glory hunts for one day Rolling Eyes

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:58 am

Hmm he lost the set 6-1 just like Federer did but I didn't hear that word used then. Just saying like. Is Federer allowed to lose a set 6-1 and it cannot be called feeble?
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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:59 am

Aut0Gr4ph wrote:
dyrewolfe wrote:
Aut0Gr4ph wrote:
legendkillarV2 wrote:Feeble!
Think that's harsh. The 1st set was feeble, but the 2nd emphatically not. Andy just wasn't good enough, but I don't blame him for that. In a grand slam final, when Novak is totally focused, he is an incredibly difficult proposition and, let's face it, simply the superior player compared to Andy.

Ignore Leg-End. He's just a troll, looking for someone to bite so he can get into an argument. I've got him on my ignore list, so I don't have to read his rubbish.  Rolling Eyes
I don't think he's a troll.


Oh well...we'll agree to disagree. I've read enough of his comments on here to make up my mind.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 31 Jan 2016, 10:59 am

And lk yes Murray was mince in that set - no doubt.
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Post by Guest Sun 31 Jan 2016, 11:01 am

CaledonianCraig wrote:Hmm he lost the set 6-1 just like Federer did but I didn't hear that word used then. Just saying like. Is Federer allowed to lose a set 6-1 and it cannot be called feeble?

Can't comment as I didn't see the match.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Sun 31 Jan 2016, 11:02 am

Still fighting! Worth keeping it close, because even a multiple champion like Novak will still have nerves approaching the finishing line. Andy clearly has nothing to lose, so can swing freely. That, of course, doesn't guarantee he will swing well.....

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