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6 Nations 2016: France v Ireland 13th February

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Post by rapidsnowman Thu 11 Feb 2016, 1:22 pm

First topic message reminder :

Someone has to do it!

No whistles or bells, just like our team selection  Run

France: Maxime Medard, Teddy Thomas, Maxime Mermoz; Jonathan Danty, Virimi Vakatawa; Jules Plisson, Sebastien Bezy; Jefferson Poirot, Guilhem Guirado (capt), Uini Atonio, Alexandre Flanquart, Yoann Maestri, Wenceslas Lauret, Yacouba Camara, Damien Chouly.
Replacements: Camille Chat, Rabah Slimani, Eddy Ben Arous, Paul Jedresiak, Loann Goujon, Maxime Machenaud, Jean-Marc Doussain, Hugo Bonneval.


Ireland: Rob Kearney, Andrew Trimble, Jared Payne, Robbie Henshaw, Dave Kearney, Johnny Sexton, Conor Murray; Jack McGrath, Rory Best (capt), Nathan White, Mike McCarthy, Devin Toner, CJ Stander, Sean O'Brien, Jamie Heaslip.
Replacements: Richardt Strauss, James Cronin, Tadhg Furlong, Donnacha Ryan, Tommy O'Donnell, Eoin Reddan, Ian Madigan, Fergus McFadden.

Somebody else can add in the fancy stuff.

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Post by whocares Sat 13 Feb 2016, 2:48 pm

SOB knee doesn't look good..

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Post by Engine#4 Sat 13 Feb 2016, 2:51 pm

'Daverage' takes a French winger on the outside  Very Happy

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Post by Notch Sat 13 Feb 2016, 2:51 pm

Ireland are showing ambition in terms of their passing game, looking to probe the wide channels, but still letting errors kill our momentum. That was good attacking play until the knock-on.
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Post by Golden Sat 13 Feb 2016, 2:53 pm

This is so messy

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Post by Notch Sat 13 Feb 2016, 2:53 pm

Ireland dominating territory but I would feel so, so much better if we could actually convert one of these chances.

France are handing us a lot of territory with really slightly ashambolic mistakes.
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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 13 Feb 2016, 2:54 pm

BamBam wrote:Brian Moore is losing his voice
He lost it last week - it was rough during his radio show - and it hasn't come back.

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Post by Notch Sat 13 Feb 2016, 2:57 pm

Points lads. Points.
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Post by Engine#4 Sat 13 Feb 2016, 2:58 pm

That's a disgraceful tackle, what are the refs watching?

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Post by whocares Sat 13 Feb 2016, 2:59 pm

Two slightly late and slightly high tackles at the same time.

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Post by Golden Sat 13 Feb 2016, 2:59 pm

Kearney Jnr took some punishment in that passage

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Post by Notch Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:02 pm

Thats just a silly one by Toner.

Can't believe we're only three points ahead on the balance of play.
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Post by eirebilly Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:03 pm

France are awful, they look totally disjointed in attack. Ireland showing some invention but are really making some basic mistakes. I have a feeling that the French subs will have a big impact on this match.
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Post by Notch Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:05 pm

France actually start putting good phases together... then a pointless drop-goal attempt. What can you say? Thanks, I suppose?
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Post by Golden Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:05 pm

Irish players are dropping like flies.

Worrying times

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Post by whocares Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:06 pm

The quality of our passes is really poor. Defends better than last week but the rest is actually worst.

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:07 pm

Maybe Ireland should have just gone straight to the hospital rather than play the game.
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Post by eirebilly Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:07 pm

Oh great work from Payne clap
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Post by Golden Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:09 pm

Surely McGrath is not scrummaging legally there?

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Post by whocares Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:11 pm

Golden wrote:Surely McGrath is not scrummaging legal there?

Think Ireland scrum did a great job behind him and managed to eject the French TH

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Post by Notch Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:11 pm

Penalties from the restart are the absolute worst! Uhhh, this game is almost as frustrating as the Ulster game last night....
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Post by ALPanorak Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:12 pm

Not quite a 'mare but Toner certainly hasn't helped the team out in this half.

Is it so much to ask for a try or dare I say two? France Ireland is usually such an entertaining contest...

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Post by eirebilly Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:12 pm

I think that both Kearney's (granted that Dave has gone off) have not done anything to justify their selection.

Payne and Heaslip have been the best Irish players in my opinion Just so many mistakes...
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Post by Golden Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:13 pm

Thank god for half time.

Hope they have enough ice packs to go around

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Post by asoreleftshoulder Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:13 pm

Really happy with how comfortable we look but concerned that we haven't got more points.I think if it was drier we'd be in better shape as we are showing real ambition to move the ball but it's so hard to keep hold of it.

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Post by Golden Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:13 pm

White has been everywhere in defence. Massive shift from him

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Post by Notch Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:16 pm

Well, there probably will be a few tries in the second half when the physicality tells. Hopefully not on us, but the French have more brute force and ignorance on the bench to come on and we've already lost several guys.

It's been brutal in terms of physicality, sloppy in terms of quality and one of those games that makes it hard to argue this tournament is up there with the best in the sport.
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Post by offload Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:16 pm

You'll go a long when to see a more turgid 40 mins of rugby. Very poor spectacle.
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Post by majesticimperialman Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:18 pm

Ireland certainly in the wars today. How many injured players so far.

France making quite a few mistakes, knock ons, dropping the ball ect.


I think the second half France will come out and be more dominant and could just about sneek it.

Unless Ireland tighten up their game think they will lose.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:18 pm

The referee is having a sloppier game than anyone else. Not only does he have no control over the breakdown, I can't believe that both he and the TMO are letting the French are get away with these cheap shots. Although I'm sure this is how they felt after the SOB punch during the RWC...

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Post by Fanster Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:19 pm

Physical first half, not sure this is the type of game Ireland want to play, theyre not at 100% after last week!!!

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Post by Notch Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:19 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:The referee is having a sloppier game than anyone else. Not only does he have no control over the breakdown, I can't believe that both he and the TMO are letting the French are get away with these cheap shots.

Agreed, and it should be no surprised to the officials they'll be going after Sexton by means both fair and foul- they do the same thing every time we play. You'd expect them to have prepared for that.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:20 pm

Notch wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:The referee is having a sloppier game than anyone else. Not only does he have no control over the breakdown, I can't believe that both he and the TMO are letting the French are get away with these cheap shots.

Agreed, and its no secret they'll be going after Sexton- they do the same thing every time we play.

The much maligned Pro 12 officials wouldn't even have missed these incidents.

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Post by Fanster Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:21 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:The referee is having a sloppier game than anyone else. Not only does he have no control over the breakdown, I can't believe that both he and the TMO are letting the French are get away with these cheap shots. Although I'm sure this is how they felt after the SOB punch during the RWC...

I don't agree theyre cheap shots, theyre just nudges after the ball on the 10, every forward who's ever played the game has done the same, Sexton goes off his feet so easily for my liking!

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Post by whocares Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:21 pm

Weather conditions are certainly not helping... Maybe a try or two in the 2nd half but likely to come from a turnover or 5m lineout. Can't see France doing anything but damage limitation given they haven't been inside the Irish 22 yet

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Post by eirebilly Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:21 pm

laughing Dave Kearney being described as an 'influential player' Shocked
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Post by whocares Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:23 pm

Besides I don't think anyone is particularly targeting Sexton given Madigan is on the bench and he hurt us real bad last time

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Post by eirebilly Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:24 pm

whocares wrote:Besides I don't think anyone is particularly targeting Sexton given Madigan is on the bench and he hurt us real bad last time

Don't agree there, France do have a history of targeting Sexton. I remember Basteraud targeting him heavily when he was playing.
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Post by wolfball Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:24 pm

Fanster wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:The referee is having a sloppier game than anyone else. Not only does he have no control over the breakdown, I can't believe that both he and the TMO are letting the French are get away with these cheap shots. Although I'm sure this is how they felt after the SOB punch during the RWC...

I don't agree theyre cheap shots, theyre just nudges after the ball on the 10, every forward who's ever played the game has done the same, Sexton goes off his feet so easily for my liking!

Fanster, the first late shot will mean a citing. Goes down easy? Sexton is a player who always gets way tooo involved with the physical stuff, so not sure how you can think that.

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Post by Fanster Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:25 pm

whocares wrote:Besides I don't think anyone is particularly targeting Sexton given Madigan is on the bench and he hurt us real bad last time

Have to agree

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:26 pm

Fanster wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:The referee is having a sloppier game than anyone else. Not only does he have no control over the breakdown, I can't believe that both he and the TMO are letting the French are get away with these cheap shots. Although I'm sure this is how they felt after the SOB punch during the RWC...

I don't agree theyre cheap shots, theyre just nudges after the ball on the 10, every forward who's ever played the game has done the same, Sexton goes off his feet so easily for my liking!

Just so that you are aware, in the game of rugby union it is illegal to intentionally bodycheck the opposition player. If you look directly at the player, change your direction of running and lead with the shoulder then that is a professional foul. Whether you think it is a cheap shot or not is irrelevant, in the laws of the game it is illegal and for good reason. It is also completely untrue that a late tackle or bodycheck on the 10 is allowed in the professional game. It is penalised when it is seen by the referee.

However I have noticed that you like to be a contrarian for the sake of it.

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Post by whocares Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:28 pm

eirebilly wrote:
whocares wrote:Besides I don't think anyone is particularly targeting Sexton given Madigan is on the bench and he hurt us real bad last time

Don't agree there, France do have a history of targeting Sexton. I remember Basteraud targeting him heavily when he was playing.

You mean one or two games is enough to be considered as "history" ?

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Post by Fanster Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:28 pm

wolfball wrote:
Fanster wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:The referee is having a sloppier game than anyone else. Not only does he have no control over the breakdown, I can't believe that both he and the TMO are letting the French are get away with these cheap shots. Although I'm sure this is how they felt after the SOB punch during the RWC...

I don't agree theyre cheap shots, theyre just nudges after the ball on the 10, every forward who's ever played the game has done the same, Sexton goes off his feet so easily for my liking!

Fanster, the first late shot will mean a citing. Goes down easy? Sexton is a player who always gets way tooo involved with the physical stuff, so not sure how you can think that.

Citing? it was a nudge after the ball went!

Sexton gets involved in the physical stuff possibly, despite him wearing bigger shoulder pads than Joan Collins, and retreating in contact faster than a Polish army circa 1936!

It was a cheeky nudge after the ball had gone, penalty yes, citing? This is not football!!

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Post by eirebilly Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:30 pm

whocares wrote:
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whocares wrote:Besides I don't think anyone is particularly targeting Sexton given Madigan is on the bench and he hurt us real bad last time

Don't agree there, France do have a history of targeting Sexton. I remember Basteraud targeting him heavily when he was playing.

You mean one or two games is enough to be considered as "history" ?

Considering they only play each other once maybe twice a year, the last three 6N have seen Sexton targeted by the French so I do consider that a history of targeting him.
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Post by gog1992 Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:31 pm

Why didn't Ireland play this poor against us? Rolling Eyes

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Post by Notch Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:31 pm

whocares wrote:
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whocares wrote:Besides I don't think anyone is particularly targeting Sexton given Madigan is on the bench and he hurt us real bad last time

Don't agree there, France do have a history of targeting Sexton. I remember Basteraud targeting him heavily when he was playing.

You mean one or two games is enough to be considered as "history" ?

When you play one game a year thats three years.
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Post by wales606 Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:31 pm

God this game is dull for the neutral
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Post by offload Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:31 pm

Unfortunately the bickering on this thread (silly as it is) is more entertaining than the rugby - which is rubbish.
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Post by whocares Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:33 pm

Can't pass without dropping the ball and can't kick as well... Will be very complicate to score more points!

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Post by Notch Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:35 pm

Ref, blow this up and put everyone out of their misery! Seriously Laugh

Both teams can use the extra time to do some basic passing drills thumbsup
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Post by offload Sat 13 Feb 2016, 3:36 pm

Notch wrote:Ref, blow this up and put everyone out of their misery! Seriously Laugh

Both teams can use the extra time to do some basic passing drills thumbsup

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