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Post by Liam_Main Thu 02 Jun 2011, 6:52 pm

First topic message reminder :

So the 2nd test is upon us,Will England make another tremendous win or will Sri Lanka fight back to win the 2nd test? All will be known in 5 days time.

The 12 man teams are as follow:

England
Andrew Strauss (C)
Alistair Cook
Jonathan Trott
Kevin Pietersen
Ian Bell
Eoin Morgan
Matt Prior (W-K)
Stuart Broad
Graeme Swann
Chris Tremlett
Steve Finn
Jade Dernbach

Sri Lanka (Can't find the 12 man squad anywhere)

Tillakaratne Dilshan (C)
Tharanga Paranavithana (Spell check!)
Lahiru Thirimanne
Kumar Sangakkara
Mahela Jayawardene
Thilan Samaraweera
Dinesh Chandimal
Prasanna Jaywardene (W-K)
Thissara Perera
Suraj Randiv
Ajantha Mendis
Rangana Herath
Dilhara Fernanado
Chanka Welegedara
Suranga Lakmal
Farveez Maharoof

Once again like the 1st feel free to discuss the action OK

And updates of the match will be up on the thread.
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Post by eirebilly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:12 pm

These two are looking very steady. I hope that is not the kiss of death.
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Post by hopeforthebest Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:13 pm

Bell is now effectively playing the number three role which reduces his options.

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Post by Cowshot Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:13 pm

Que?

chuckle. Still in shock after the morning. Will remain thoroughly twitchy for quite some time yet. 300 minimum, probably.

I'm still just about hoping for a really big 1st innings total.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:17 pm

Where you not on 606 cowshot? trebell was famous for seeing only the negative things in English cricket OK
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Post by Cowshot Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:17 pm

Sounded like a beaut from Cook. That's timing.

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Post by Cowshot Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:18 pm

Not much on the cricket boards. Bad atmosphere.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:20 pm

OK, couple of nice shots there from the boys.
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Post by Liam_Main Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:22 pm

Lovely shot from Cook.

Both men on the verge of a half-century.
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Post by Cowshot Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:23 pm

Well done the run machine.

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Post by Liam_Main Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:23 pm

Yet another 50 from Cook,well played.
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Post by eirebilly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:24 pm

Great 50 from Cook.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:24 pm

Lets just remeber that Cook would have been dropped before the Ashes if England had another option as an opener.

Sometimes a lack of candidates is a good thing when you have players with genuine class who are going through a rough spell.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:29 pm

Cook had a horrible run of bad luck as well if i remember correctly. KP is a great player but he is really fishing for shots. He is more than worth keeping in the team but some improvement is needed.
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Post by eirebilly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:35 pm

A couple of good overs there from Sri Lanka.
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Post by Cowshot Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:35 pm

Vaughan pouring utter scorn on any idea of dropping KP on TMS.

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Post by Liam_Main Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:37 pm

Now Bell gets his 50, Bit lucky at times but still well deserved.
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Post by eirebilly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:37 pm

50 for Bell clap
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Post by eirebilly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:38 pm

Not to forget also the 100 partnership.
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Post by Cowshot Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:38 pm

And well done Bell.

Still doesn't sound a dangerous attack, but needed a few steady nerves at 22-3.

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Post by Liam_Main Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:39 pm

KP will likely have the series to score big runs if he doesn't he'll be gone.
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Post by eirebilly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:45 pm

Both Cook and Bell really look in form. Great to see.
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Post by hopeforthebest Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:46 pm

After the shock of seeing three quick wickets Cook is beginning to blossom, having a partner really helps.

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Post by chrisyeah Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:48 pm

Liam_Main wrote:KP will likely have the series to score big runs if he doesn't he'll be gone.

It's far more likely that he'll get until the end of the India series, considering there's only one more match in the Sri Lanka series. And anyway, last summer I seem to remember the majority of people on the old 606 calling for Cook to be dropped...

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Post by Liam_Main Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:52 pm

Bell gone for 52. 2nd wicket for Welegedara.
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Post by hopeforthebest Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:53 pm

I spoke too soon. Sad

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Post by eirebilly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:53 pm

Oh now . Lets hope Mogs can get a decent score

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Post by packofwolves Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:53 pm

Cook really is Mr Reliable right now.

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Post by Liam_Main Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:54 pm

chrisyeah wrote:
Liam_Main wrote:KP will likely have the series to score big runs if he doesn't he'll be gone.

It's far more likely that he'll get until the end of the India series, considering there's only one more match in the Sri Lanka series. And anyway, last summer I seem to remember the majority of people on the old 606 calling for Cook to be dropped...


It's a vital series for England can they fully rely on KP to score runs?
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Post by eirebilly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:56 pm

Come on Mogs.
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Post by hopeforthebest Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:56 pm

SL should go all pace at Morgan.

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Post by alfie Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:58 pm

Bother.

My fault . I flicked over to the tennis for a minute Sad

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Post by Cowshot Fri 03 Jun 2011, 2:59 pm

Big chance for Morgan to make a statement about his place.

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Post by Cowshot Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:00 pm

alfie: I'm going shopping for something exciting like mince in an effort to improve the innings.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:01 pm

Mogs times the ball so well. He reminds me alot of Michael Bevan

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Post by Liam_Main Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:06 pm

Another big partnership hopefully.
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Post by eirebilly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:07 pm

Great shot from Mogs, already looking confident.
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Post by alfie Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:09 pm

Sir Geoffrey is adamant the pitch is lovely for batting.

It certainly seems to be when Cook is facing Smile

In truth the Sri Lankans bowled pretty well early on , but the first three batsmen all played a little carelessly to get out (didn't see Bell go)

Sensible batting should still see 300 for the day with a few wickets left to press on tomorrow. England bat pretty deep these days.

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Post by Liam_Main Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:11 pm

6 from Morgan,terrific shot!
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Post by hopeforthebest Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:12 pm

SL are bowling at the same over rate that the old WI did. That is what caused the 90 over/day rule to be introduced.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:12 pm

MOGGGGGSSSSSS 6, what a hit.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:16 pm

Who was I kidding that could stay away.

Afternoon all.

We have a game here. Credit to SL bouncing back like this.

England need to dig in here.

Any idea what a decent score is first up here?

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Post by eirebilly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:18 pm

trebell, i knew you could'nt stay away whilst England were playing Very Happy.

400+ will be a good score but England have their work cut out to get that from here.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:19 pm

Hi Billy Very Happy

Yeah for sure. 250 looks more likely at the mo but early days. Someone just needs to dig in.

I was thinking we'd been taking batting tips from SL's second Innings for a while.

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Post by eirebilly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:21 pm

I would say that England would be happy with 300-350 considering their start.
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Post by alfie Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:21 pm

Wow !

That was a brief "retirement" trebell

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Post by eirebilly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:22 pm

Cook striking the ball beautifully. 2 boundaries
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Post by eirebilly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:22 pm

He missed us alfie Wink
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Post by alfie Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:25 pm

Cook must have missed Fernando ...welcomes him back with a couple of boundaries...

And Morgan timing it nicely at the other end.

Tempting fate but I still reckon England will get 400

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Post by eirebilly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:25 pm

Mogs gets another boundary Very Happy
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:29 pm

eirebilly wrote:Cook had a horrible run of bad luck as well if i remember correctly. KP is a great player but he is really fishing for shots. He is more than worth keeping in the team but some improvement is needed.

More than that he had a serious technical issue that was being exploited. The majority of his scores from the West Indies 2009 tour to the start of the Ashes 2010/11 were below 30. When you consider that includes Windies home and away (on really flat wickets), Bangladesh home and away and Pakistan at home its not a great record.
It was more than bad luck in the home series last summer, hes never been as good in English conditions but looked flumped despite the century.

The point is all the best players go through bad spells. Heck there was some debate about Trotts place after the SA tour.

Can England rely on Pietersen to get runs against India? No, but then they cant garuantee that from any of their batsmen. As it is Strauss has a worse recent record and Morgan is a less proven player ( doing well so far though). With 6 batsmen and the best batting keeper in test cricket theres room for one guy to have a bad spell. Realisticaly one of them always is, and you can only pick on form afte rthe game.
Could England rely on Bopara or a debutant against India?

I really cant see them ditching him, but Gooch does need to have some serious words and find a way of getting in his head.

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