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Post by Gunner Fri 03 Jun 2011, 5:41 am

With the RWC only 99 days from starting that means we are only 140 odd days away from the final international of the year.
Who do you think will come away with the IRBs top individual honour?


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Post by Goosestepper Fri 03 Jun 2011, 6:27 am

couldn't say before the tri nations and end of the S15 - McCaw and Carter as usual will be candidates new names could be SBW or Quade Cooper depending on how they go in both competitions. Can't see a NH player getting it - maybe SOB and Ashton (yawn) will get on the short list

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Post by Gunner Fri 03 Jun 2011, 7:30 am

Probably what i probably mean Goosesteeper is that the RWC player of the tournie will most likey be IRB player of the year. Hence the crystal ball! Field is open.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri 03 Jun 2011, 9:18 am

Gunner wrote:Probably what i probably mean Goosesteeper is that the RWC player of the tournie will most likey be IRB player of the year. Hence the crystal ball! Field is open.

Henson then.

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 03 Jun 2011, 9:25 am

Carter. He'll be the player of the tournament and the tournament top scorer. I also think the All Blacks will take the Tri-Nations. Bumper year ahead for them I reckon.

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Post by thebandwagonsociety Fri 03 Jun 2011, 10:16 am

If NZ win the rwc then I reckon McCaw takes the honour. Though the award has gone to some surprised winners in the past so, just to put it out there.... Dusatoir... after Frances exploits in the RWC.

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Post by GunsGerms Fri 03 Jun 2011, 10:41 am

Pocock maybe? An Aussie player has never won the award. A good WC and they may win one. Quade Cooper probably not though, an OH should be able to tackle and kick goals to be considered.

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Post by red_stag Fri 03 Jun 2011, 10:54 am

I'm gonna back McCaw to take his 4th award. Pocock might be another one depending on how Australia do.
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Post by Goosestepper Fri 03 Jun 2011, 11:30 am

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Gunner wrote:Probably what i probably mean Goosesteeper is that the RWC player of the tournie will most likey be IRB player of the year. Hence the crystal ball! Field is open.

Henson then.

Egbertus O'Callaghan (Namiba, Hooker. honest to god) Never seen him play but with a name like that............!

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Post by bathmad Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:28 pm

SBW. Suspect he'll be the star in NZ walking away with the WC.

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Post by red_stag Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:59 pm

bathmad wrote:SBW. Suspect he'll be the star in NZ walking away with the WC.

Thats a good call actually. He's a media darling too.
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Post by CJB Fri 03 Jun 2011, 4:04 pm

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Post by Glas a du Fri 03 Jun 2011, 4:13 pm

Giteau.
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Post by red_stag Fri 03 Jun 2011, 4:19 pm

Glas a du wrote:Giteau.

Really? I don't see it.
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Post by Notch Fri 03 Jun 2011, 4:36 pm

In 2007, Contepomi and Hernandez were both nominated and Habana won- it's going to be heavily dependent on which teams do well in the RWC and the award will go to the best player of the winning team unless there is an absolutely outstanding candidate from elsewhere.
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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 03 Jun 2011, 4:38 pm

Agreed - not Giteau. He's not even guaranteed to start when Cooper and Barnes are fit.

From Australia the most likely candidates for me are Pocock, Cooper and Beale.

I still can't see past it being an All Black this year, especially with Lievremont and P Villy taking two competitors out of the equation.

I'm going with Carter, but can easily see it being McCaw.

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Post by wales606 Fri 03 Jun 2011, 4:42 pm

Dan Carter

Cant see McCaw being given ANOTHER!

If the ABs win the WC (which they probably will) then they with no doubt have player of the year.

Carter is most likely, although SBW and Smith are also possibles.
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Post by MR. scotland27 Sat 04 Jun 2011, 10:47 am

If NZ win it will be McCaw or Carter, and even if they don't then those two will still be on the list.
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Post by Killer_B_6 Sat 04 Jun 2011, 2:30 pm

I would hazard that the shortlist would come from the below:

From Aus - Cooper, Pocock, O'Conner or Beale

From NZ - McCaw, Carter, SBW or Read

From SA - B Du Plessis, Alberts or Fourie

From England - Ashton, Palmer, Lawes or Youngs

From France - Harinordiquy, Dusatoir or Medard

From Ireland - SOB, BOD or Heaslip

Outsiders from smaller nations - A Tuilagi, Tong'uhia, Parisse, Fernandez Lobbe, Gray, Hook or Warburton

From that list these are the most likely winners:

SBW
Read
Carter
A Tuilagi
Pocock
Beale
Ashton

It all depends upon the RWC.

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Post by brennomac Sat 04 Jun 2011, 4:21 pm

Jeez, Killer B, Scots and Welsh will love being referred to us as "smaller nations" - expect a flurry of protest from north of the Tweed and west of the Severn

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Post by Killer_B_6 Sat 04 Jun 2011, 4:26 pm

http://www.irb.com/rankings/full.html

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Post by ruggerbyplayer Sat 04 Jun 2011, 7:19 pm

Carter no doubt.

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Post by Mehrts is god Mon 06 Jun 2011, 2:56 am

Most deffo a Cantabrian NZer,but I'm picking Kieran Read in a tight finish from SBW,Dan Carter and Richie McCaw.

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Post by majesticimperialman Mon 06 Jun 2011, 5:39 am

Alot of posters on here saying McCaw will take the player of the year.

Hmmmmmmm Maybe, but seeing that McCaw is injured at the moment there is no garuntee that he will Finish playing in the rugby world cup. So i would not be too eager to place him in the race for the title.

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Post by wrfc1980 Mon 06 Jun 2011, 5:42 am

what about ben Foden?

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Post by Gunner Mon 06 Jun 2011, 5:58 am

Ma'a Nonu.
After 4 months of rugby he starting to find some match fitness.
By September he will be peaking Very Happy

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Post by nganboy Tue 07 Jun 2011, 7:35 am

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Post by ruggerbyplayer Wed 08 Jun 2011, 3:45 pm

Gunner

And yet he's just been released by the Hurricanes. Can't understand it myself.

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Post by welshy824 Wed 08 Jun 2011, 5:13 pm

just putting it out there for the welsh players, shane (i can wish)
but i seriously think if the back row have a good WC for wales they may have a slim shout at being on the shortlist

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Post by KiaRose Wed 08 Jun 2011, 5:58 pm

The nominees were selected by the IRB Awards independent panel of judges, chaired by Rugby World Cup winning captain John Eales, following a year-long review of all Test matches and thorough consultation and deliberation.
Just a by the way on how the PotY is chosen.

From the IRB website on last year's selection:

"The panel comprises some of the biggest names in the Game with Will Greenwood, Gavin Hastings, Raphaël Ibanez, Francois Pienaar, Agustín Pichot, Scott Quinnell, Tana Umaga, Paul Wallace and Eales winning over 500 caps and boasting four Rugby World Cup winners medals between them.

"The panel watch every major international match throughout the year, providing comprehensive analysis on individual players and casting their vote based on performance and number of appearances," said Eales."

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Post by Taylorman Wed 08 Jun 2011, 7:17 pm

O'Connor for me so far. Has a touch of Gold for someone so young.

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Post by HammerofThunor Wed 08 Jun 2011, 7:37 pm

Does it include the World Cup games? It includes the AI from last year so I doubt it.

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Post by Mgall52 Wed 08 Jun 2011, 9:04 pm

As it's based on test rugby can't see it being a NH player so most likely a kiwi or wallaby depending on outcome of RWC. Don't see why all senior games club and international are not taken into account though.

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Post by Taylorman Wed 08 Jun 2011, 9:09 pm

For a bolter from NZ Zac Guilford. Deceptively fast, intuitive and an eye for gaps, exposing space and taking opportunities.

The perfect player for the minor pool games and could go so well there might be too good to be ignored.

Has mostly been on winning sides throughout his career to date and the type to make a difference in the big tight matches.

But if it doesnt include WC matches then not likely, but who's counting.

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Post by HammerofThunor Wed 08 Jun 2011, 9:14 pm

Taylorman wrote:But if it doesnt include WC matches then not likely, but who's counting.

The judges I'm guessing

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Post by Gunner Thu 09 Jun 2011, 5:53 am

ruggerbyplayer wrote:Gunner

And yet he's just been released by the Hurricanes. Can't understand it myself.

Doesnt seem to fit into new coaches plan.
Hammet (new coach) seems to want to get rid of some of the older players and start afresh.
Ma'a would be a great signing for any team. You'd get a lot of rugby out of him.

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Post by welshy824 Thu 09 Jun 2011, 9:56 am

for people who are suggesting ashton, what has he done apart from score a few tries against italy at twickers????

i am sorry not really that much to talk about.

to be honest i think it will be a SH lock out, and atm i can only see the likes of warbs, o'brien, sexton or gray possibly making it

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