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Post by Allty Wed 23 Mar 2016, 7:00 pm

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http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/35887510

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Post by beshocked Tue 05 Apr 2016, 10:10 am

Gooseberry wrote:
yappysnap wrote:

I was just saying yesterday that Marler should be fined and then sent to some kind of group as community service. A match ban just doesn't seem right for this kind of incident.

Glad to see there has been a precedent set, probably won't be followed though. I'm expecting him to get a long ban to set an example.

Yeah maybe he could be sent to tarmac some driveways?

I diagree wholeheartedly with the "setting an example" notion.
The example should be that the appropriate level of punishment will be given related to the level of the offense. The first panel deemed that that was a stern finger wagging, if World Rugby determines is a 10 week ban and castration then that really doesnt make anyone look good.
It exagerattes the level of offence and makes it Marler look like Beshocked or Hitler, it makes world rugby look like a Student Union Coucil run by Jeremy Corbyn, and it makes the 6 nations panel look like absolute idiots. It'll also send the internet in even more fits of white middle class anger.

It is possible to accept that this was a pretty low level offence but that a minimal ban is still appropriate. Persoanly I dont have any great issue with the original decision, but its pretty clear that World Rugby dont beleive that adequate process was followed in making that decision and are seriously concerned that the rules werent applied in the way they were intended to be. If they find that is the cas ethen a ban is appropriate, but only a minimal one. 4 weeks is still significant, whether thats applied now (business end of the season) or in the summer (scuppering his chances of touring at all).

Th idea of hanging someone for being the first high profile case to be charged with a particular thing even if it is a borderline case isnt one Im on board with at all.

Gooseberry comparing me or indeed Marler to Hitler? Surely you're better than that. More than a few provocative posts on an internet forum isn't the same as genocide. Neither was what Marler did. Not even close.

If it's an attempt at humour then it's in poorly done.

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Post by LordDowlais Tue 05 Apr 2016, 10:15 am

fa0019 wrote:every country has their own record of ill discipline., NZ, SA, Europe, Argentina etc no one is really standout.  I'd probably say the French were the worst where the eye gouge traditional meant something completely different compared to the rest of the world; for many years it was just efficient ruck clearing techniques to them.

I think what Laurie was suggesting is that no NZ prop would dare allow something such as name calling to go beyond their internal one on one battle and such things would be dealt with by themselves. Those of us old enough to have played during the amateur era are probably more prone to want to dealt with things in-house, that's the way we were taught the game.

I recall once after I spoke to the referee about some guy had put me in an armbar in a ruck and was close to breaking my arm. My captain literally gave me a slap and told me to deal with him myself and stop being such a cry baby.

Doesn't mean what Marler said was acceptable, just that how people react to it/deal with it is different depending on culture and generation.


I think that the Argies will have the worst now just for this incident alone, 99yr ban from rugby. Shocked

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/rugby-player-handed-99-year-11135777

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Post by TBJ9625 Tue 05 Apr 2016, 10:45 am

I think this has gone on long enough and can't wait for it to be over. I think Marler should face some sanction as it's clearly against the laws as laid down by WR. But I think they should be pragmatic and no too harsh as he did apologies and that has been accepted by Lee. I don't think you can accept the heat of the moment excuse. What I think they should do is fine the RFU and the 6 Nations committee for causing all this circus by not dealing with it properly in the first place. What makes them think they can ignore the laws laid down by the governing body.
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Post by beshocked Tue 05 Apr 2016, 11:24 am

Gooseberry you're a disgrace. Comparing me to Hitler.

Should I do my own comparisons of you?

No I don't think gypsies are a race, what's your point? Having that opinion warrants a comparison with Hitler? Do you know how ridiculous that is?

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Post by bumble Tue 05 Apr 2016, 11:26 am

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Or he could be sent on a site clearance of a Gypsy site, I'd help. With a flamethrower.

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Shocked

How anyone can even think to type something like that is beyond me.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 05 Apr 2016, 11:27 am

Like the time you called me raciest Beshocked?

He's joking obviously, stop being so precious.

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Post by IanBru Tue 05 Apr 2016, 11:30 am

Jimpy wrote:Or he could be sent on a site clearance of a Gypsy site, I'd help. With a flamethrower.
That's disgusting. You need to look at yourself in the mirror if you think that's a normal or appropriate thing to say.

You let yourself and this forum down with comments like that.
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Post by RDW Tue 05 Apr 2016, 11:33 am

Rolling Eyes

Another one locked. Some people may not last much longer on this forum if they think some of their comments are appropriate.

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