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Post by Fanster Sat 21 May 2016, 11:16 am

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Anyone know much about the ticket sales for this game?

I may head down for this, however just took a quick peak for tickets and there is only one block available, and not 2 tickets sat together. It can't be sold out already can it?

Anyone know?

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Post by nathan Sun 29 May 2016, 4:16 pm

How is that not a penalty for Roberts not rolling away

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Post by stub Sun 29 May 2016, 4:16 pm

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GeordieFalcon wrote:How on earth is ford on the pitch.  He's lost!

Cipriani must be wondering what's going on!  

Ford looks like he has no confidence. Bath's dismal season coupled with his dad's sacking seems to have really knocked him. A couple of those missed kicks are howlers.

Agree with the TMO and Greenwood, Cole knocks the ball down and back.

Agree with that Sam - feel sorry for the lad but would love to have Cipriani on instead!

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sun 29 May 2016, 4:17 pm

Oh George ford, time to leave the pitch

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Post by Heaf Sun 29 May 2016, 4:18 pm

It never ceases to amaze me how many commentators don't seem to understand the laws ....

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sun 29 May 2016, 4:18 pm

Yarde has had a busy game. Done better than I expected

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Post by Fanster Sun 29 May 2016, 4:19 pm

Maybe both teams have woken up a bit after the contraversial decision, however Biggar missing touch isn't the way to respond.

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Post by offload Sun 29 May 2016, 4:19 pm

Doesn't matter about a knock on or not. Wales can't tackle and can't create. If they play like this in NZ they'll get thumped. Nothing new or inventive since the 6N's.

England are making so many mistakes but are far more potent in attack.
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Post by GeordieFalcon Sun 29 May 2016, 4:20 pm

I don't think it's a controversial decision

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Post by RDW Sun 29 May 2016, 4:20 pm

Surely Ford won't start at 10 against Aus?

Or is the problem that there's no real standout player at 12 for England?

Burrell has done well today

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sun 29 May 2016, 4:21 pm

Farrell MUST start in Oz

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Post by Fanster Sun 29 May 2016, 4:22 pm

offload wrote:Doesn't matter about a knock on or not.  Wales can't tackle and can't create.  If they play like this in NZ they'll get thumped.  Nothing new or inventive since the 6N's.

England are making so many mistakes but are far more potent in attack.

I'd agree with this, knock on or not for 5/6 phases Wales were losing ground over and over.

Welsh players just look like they have an eye on NZ, which will not help them in NZ.

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Post by sad_gimp Sun 29 May 2016, 4:26 pm

Pleased for Yarde, deserved that. Always amazed at what Watson can do with no space too!

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sun 29 May 2016, 4:26 pm

Nice play by Lawes.

And Yarde has earned his try... Been good today.

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Post by stub Sun 29 May 2016, 4:26 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:I don't think it's a controversial decision

Agree with that.

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Post by Fanster Sun 29 May 2016, 4:26 pm

Too many fallen off tackles again, 3 times losing the ball in contact, and no physical aspect from the Welsh...

Welsh players might be mentally in NZ but physically, despite thinking England would win by around 12 it may be 32 lol

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Post by stub Sun 29 May 2016, 4:27 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Farrell MUST start in Oz

Also agree with that. Ford needs time to regroup.

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Post by lostinwales Sun 29 May 2016, 4:27 pm

Been keeping in touch via the BBC website. Last looked it was Wales 10-0 up. I thought - here we go.

Coming back to the game now lets just say I am pleasantly surprised...

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Post by yappysnap Sun 29 May 2016, 4:27 pm

Haskell has been pretty anonymous in this game. He should be a little worries about just how good Harrison and Clifford are playing

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Post by mckay1402 Sun 29 May 2016, 4:27 pm

I've had to turn it off because wales were annoying me so much. Poor skills and getting round the ref like that. I hope Biggar and alun wyn are banned for a game for that but they won't be. No room for that at all
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Post by GeordieFalcon Sun 29 May 2016, 4:30 pm

Clifford is winning the battle to start v Oz along with Robshaw and Billy

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Post by lostinwales Sun 29 May 2016, 4:31 pm

mckay1402 wrote:I've had to turn it off because wales were annoying me so much.  Poor skills and getting round the ref like that.  I hope Biggar and alun wyn are banned for a game for that but they won't be.  No room for that at all

But you know what will happen. That decision will be blamed assuming Wales lose from here and the fact that they seem to have been overrun for most of the game will be ignored

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Post by yappysnap Sun 29 May 2016, 4:31 pm

Great to see Yarde happy and scoring

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Post by RDW Sun 29 May 2016, 4:32 pm

It's not over yet...

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Post by yappysnap Sun 29 May 2016, 4:32 pm

lostinwales wrote:
mckay1402 wrote:I've had to turn it off because wales were annoying me so much.  Poor skills and getting round the ref like that.  I hope Biggar and alun wyn are banned for a game for that but they won't be.  No room for that at all

But you know what will happen. That decision will be blamed assuming Wales lose from here and the fact that they seem to have been overrun for most of the game will be ignored

Don't worry, Wales Online will post a million articles about how Wales should have won if not for that obviously blatant cheating...

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Post by Fanster Sun 29 May 2016, 4:34 pm

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mckay1402 wrote:I've had to turn it off because wales were annoying me so much.  Poor skills and getting round the ref like that.  I hope Biggar and alun wyn are banned for a game for that but they won't be.  No room for that at all

But you know what will happen. That decision will be blamed assuming Wales lose from here and the fact that they seem to have been overrun for most of the game will be ignored

Come on, stop being childish, it was a decision thats contraversial, only seen by one camera angle, in which the player involved was convinced (as were the 29 others) it was knocked on into Biggar, they rowed for about 15 seconds, which we see every week by all teams.


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Post by GeordieFalcon Sun 29 May 2016, 4:34 pm

How is it controversial?

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sun 29 May 2016, 4:36 pm

I don't think Joseph has done himself any favours today

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Post by nathan Sun 29 May 2016, 4:38 pm

You don't see players surrounding a ref throwing a paddy every week

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sun 29 May 2016, 4:39 pm

Oh George....

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 29 May 2016, 4:39 pm

Bigger is a petulant child, he'd be much more suited to football with his attitude.

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Post by stub Sun 29 May 2016, 4:39 pm

Launchbury has been a star.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 29 May 2016, 4:39 pm

Joseph has had a shocker, his inability to throw a pass is a real disappointment.

North won't want to watch back his open field break where he failed to step and run round the England replacement loosehead Genge. He really should be doing better than that.

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Post by Heaf Sun 29 May 2016, 4:39 pm

Thought JJ has made some decent breaks though ... Ford is the big issue - he's missed 8 easy points from conversions that often would be the difference between winning and losing


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Post by mckay1402 Sun 29 May 2016, 4:39 pm

It doesn't matter if the decision was controversial or not there is no place for behaving like that. Apart from anything Biggar lost it and Wales discipline went out the window.
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Post by TightHEAD Sun 29 May 2016, 4:39 pm

Fords kicking is a disgrace yet I still think we play better with him at 10
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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 29 May 2016, 4:40 pm

So that's a knock on yet the one for Clifford's try wasn't laughing laughing

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Post by Rugby Fan Sun 29 May 2016, 4:40 pm

Wonder the last time a front line kicker had a one-from-seven record...

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Post by yappysnap Sun 29 May 2016, 4:40 pm

Bizarre thinking going for the kick there.

No possession for the last 5 mins and then waste that penalty.

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Post by Fanster Sun 29 May 2016, 4:41 pm

It's such a shame Welsh players have been so poor today, a few English players have really thrown their hands up in spectacular fashion, but those performances might be marred by the Wales perormance.

Ford has been unforgivable, Farrell must be sat in his front room wetting himself with laughter.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 29 May 2016, 4:41 pm

I really didn't see the England 2nd string battering a very strong Welsh side....really surprised.

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sun 29 May 2016, 4:42 pm

The baby faced assassin is back. Mom Launchbury

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Post by sad_gimp Sun 29 May 2016, 4:42 pm

Fanster wrote:
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mckay1402 wrote:I've had to turn it off because wales were annoying me so much.  Poor skills and getting round the ref like that.  I hope Biggar and alun wyn are banned for a game for that but they won't be.  No room for that at all

But you know what will happen. That decision will be blamed assuming Wales lose from here and the fact that they seem to have been overrun for most of the game will be ignored

Come on, stop being childish, it was a decision thats contraversial, only seen by one camera angle, in which the player involved was convinced (as were the 29 others) it was knocked on into Biggar, they rowed for about 15 seconds, which we see every week by all teams.


This is rugby. You do NOT see players surrounding and yelling at the referee every week. Biggar should see a citing for sure.

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Post by TightHEAD Sun 29 May 2016, 4:42 pm

where do Wales go from here?

IMO they need new coaches
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Post by lostinwales Sun 29 May 2016, 4:43 pm

Fanster wrote:
lostinwales wrote:
mckay1402 wrote:I've had to turn it off because wales were annoying me so much.  Poor skills and getting round the ref like that.  I hope Biggar and alun wyn are banned for a game for that but they won't be.  No room for that at all

But you know what will happen. That decision will be blamed assuming Wales lose from here and the fact that they seem to have been overrun for most of the game will be ignored

Come on, stop being childish, it was a decision thats contraversial, only seen by one camera angle, in which the player involved was convinced (as were the 29 others) it was knocked on into Biggar, they rowed for about 15 seconds, which we see every week by all teams.


Not being childish. It's a serious comment. And its not about the guys on the pitch either. I haven't seen the incident so can't comment on it until I do. It is more about the Welsh media and the spin that will be put on this.

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Post by stub Sun 29 May 2016, 4:43 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I really didn't see the England 2nd string battering a very strong Welsh side....really surprised.

No Sgt, as I said earlier, really expected Wales to win this one.

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Post by Fanster Sun 29 May 2016, 4:44 pm

Watching Falatau walk past a maul, touch it with his hand, walk around the wrong side and then trot back 10 metres after the penalty is a little poor...

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sun 29 May 2016, 4:44 pm

Well aside from the obvious one I wonder what other excuses Wales will roll out for this one

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Post by TightHEAD Sun 29 May 2016, 4:44 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I really didn't see the England 2nd string battering a very strong Welsh side....really surprised.


With a worldclass coach in charge I'd expect a third choice England team to beat little old Wales, good luck vs those all blacks playing warrenball


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 29 May 2016, 4:44 pm

stub wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:I really didn't see the England 2nd string battering a very strong Welsh side....really surprised.

No Sgt, as I said earlier, really expected Wales to win this one.

Hard to explain really.

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Post by offload Sun 29 May 2016, 4:46 pm

A second string England, unable to kick a point, making loads of mistakes and having given penalties away all afternoon, have made Wales look woeful. Can't wait to hear who Gatland blames for this one.

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