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Post by George Carlin Thu 02 Jun 2016, 7:04 am

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NEW ZEALAND v WALES
11 June 2016
19:35 NZST (UTC+12)
Eden Park, Auckland

Live on [tbc]

Referee: Wayne Barnes (England)
Touch judges: [tbc]
Television match official: [tbc]

A. Head to Head

30 Played 30
27 Won 3
0 Drawn 0
3 Lost 27
916 Points 307

B. Recent Form

22 November 2014 - Millennium Stadium, Cardiff: 16 – 34 to New Zealand

24 November 2012 - Millennium Stadium, Cardiff: 10 – 33 to New Zealand

27 November 2010 - Millennium Stadium, Cardiff: 25 – 37 to New Zealand

26 June 2010 - Waikato Stadium, Hamilton: 29 – 10 to New Zealand

19 June 2010 - Carisbrook, Dunedin: 42 – 9 to New Zealand

7 November 2009 - Millennium Stadium, Cardiff: 12 – 19 to New Zealand

C. Teams

NEW ZEALAND
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01. Joe Moody
02. Dane Coles
03. Owen Franks
04. Luke Romano
05. Brodie Retallick
06. Jerome Kaino
07. Sam Cane
08. Kieran Read – captain

09. Aaron Smith
10. Aaron Cruden
11. Julian Savea
12. Ryan Crotty
13. Malakai Fekitoa
14. Waisake Naholo
15. Ben Smith

16. Nathan Harris
17. Wyatt Crockett
18. Charlie Faumuina
19. Patrick Tuipulotu
20. Ardie Savea
21. TJ Perenara
22. Beauden Barrett
23. Seta Tamanivalu

WALES
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01.Gethin Jenkins
02.Ken Owens
03.Samson Lee
04.Bradley Davies
05.Alun Wyn Jones
06.Ross Moriarty
07.Sam Warburton (captain)
08.Taulupe Faletau

09.Rhys Webb
10.Dan Biggar
11.Hallam Amos,
12.Jamie Roberts
13.Jonathan Davies
14.George North
15.Liam Williams.

16.Scott Baldwin
17.Rob Evans
18.Tomas Francis
19.Jake Ball
20.Ellis Jenkins
21.Gareth Davies
22.Gareth Anscombe
23.Scott Williams


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Post by HammerofThunor Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:06 am

Greedy

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:07 am

emack2 wrote:I have been offline recently due to updating pc/router/services etc.so haven't
commented.
As an AB fan you take certain things as an act of faith any NZ player of any
age will have all the basic skills,plus fitness levels to play 85 minutes if
required.
Then you have to think 11 players gone from the RWC squad,many the best
of there generation.Plus the Worlds most winning captain.No tests since RWC
versus a battle hardened side.
NZ are usually slow starters in the First Test having said that only 30 odd
sides have beaten NZ in NZ.Only 2 NH sides England 1,France 4 have done
it in NZ,no side has won at Eden Park since 1994.
NO place is harder to win in than there,the side[NZ] still boasts 720
caps.You look who`s missing Messam,SBW,[7`s duties]the Ioanes ditto.
Sam Whitelock,Milner-Skudder,Kerr-Barlow ,Charlie Ngatai injured.
Luke Whitelock,Matt Todd,Cody Taylor,Sopango,Izzy Dagg plus the
New Wunderkind.
The conveyor belt rolls on, Wales if the play the the no risk up the
centre game taking points as they come they have a chance.
Kick down the throats of NZ they would be very silly to attempt
it.
Prediction NZ will get a least one maybe 2 Yellow Cards and probably
concede a Penalty try.
Wayne Barnes rules OK

Nothing quite like getting your excuses in early!

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Post by Not grey and not a ghost Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:07 am

Kicking game has it's advantages for Wales. AB's not accurate under the high kick and defence weak around the ruck.

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Post by offload Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:08 am

Agreed. Pointless kicking the ball away.  The only way to pressure NZ is to keep running at them at pace.


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Post by HammerofThunor Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:08 am

Another good try for Wales.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:08 am

Cracking game so far!

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Post by nathan Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:09 am

It also has its major disadvantages for Wales. Everything they have done that's good so far has been by keeping ball in hand

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Post by Not grey and not a ghost Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:12 am

Well done Wales. Wales in the lead. Wales just need to persevere. Conversely the AB's just need to improve their accuracy a bit and not try to much. Game could still go either way. AB's could run away with it, could also lose it. A big question for Wales will be if they can maintain the intensity.

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Post by nathan Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:13 am

Great game so far

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:13 am

Whatever happens next, 18 points, including two tries, is a great showing. Reminds me of the 2003 World Cup match.

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Post by yappysnap Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:14 am

Great try Wales

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Post by brennomac Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:18 am

yappysnap wrote:Definite forward pass for that second try there, but brilliant counter attacking move. Who ever is meant to be marking Naholo needs to start soon!!

You could say the same about Savea, great as a finisher but North has made umpteen breaks down the line.

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Post by offload Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:21 am

Shame they couldn't convert a few more points there before the break.
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Post by toml Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:23 am

What a half of rugby! Wales are playing brilliantly, not a fan of Liam Williams personality but he is on fire! 1/2p won't get the 15 shirt back.

Hallam Amos isn't up to playing the ABs tho

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Post by Not grey and not a ghost Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:23 am

I think Cruden probably hit it on the head. It's a good game. I think if the AB's tidy a few things up they could run rampant. I'm not sure whether they will though. Wales have the lead and deserve it. They can win this game. Interesting...

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:31 am

Wales when given a licence to play = much better.

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:32 am

Think it's fair to say no-one really envisaged the game going this way, much as we might have held out a faint hope.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:33 am

Williams is an excellent player. What a performance from Wales so far thumbsup
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Post by nathan Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:41 am

Annoys me that new Zealand never seem to be penalised for blocking the chasers

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:47 am

JD2 is playing pretty well but his passing is still awful.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:53 am

Wales aren't being given much opportunity to run in this half. Going for the corner is a bold call.

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 11 Jun 2016, 9:54 am

All Wales supporters are allowed not to respond: at what point do we think a win is possible?

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Post by nathan Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:01 am

Unfortunately I think it may be another case of plucky losers

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:05 am

Williams has been pants since the praise. Wales can win this though.

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Post by nathan Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:07 am

Hope so but at the moment the momentum is with new zealand

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Post by offload Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:07 am

Not convinced the Welsh bench is strong enough to make this a last quarter contest.
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Post by nathan Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:09 am

Issues with the Welsh conditioning? They look knackered

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Post by offload Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:09 am

Two missed tackles from the Welsh bench. Game over.
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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:10 am

They need a final 10 like they've given to England recently now.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:13 am

Wales look a bit lazy now, they're fitter than this. ABs up the tempo as expected and it works, also as expected.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:13 am

Great stuff from Wales for 60 minutes but NZ just pulling away in the end.

I fear this might be the pattern for all the home nations.

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Post by nathan Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:13 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:They need a final 10 like they've given to England recently now.
They need to play like well before the final 10 minutes to beat the all black

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:13 am

Ouch soooo close
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:14 am

nathan wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:They need a final 10 like they've given to England recently now.
They need to play like well before the final 10 minutes to beat the all black

I don't see NZ getting two sent off to facilitate it either.

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:14 am

I wish they would be consistent with that. Either the ball has to travel backwards or it has to be 'thrown' backwards but may travel forwards.

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Post by RDW Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:14 am

How was that forward? Headscratch

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Post by Biltong Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:14 am

That is not forward, not sure what he is looking at
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Post by TightHEAD Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:14 am

Wales need a new fitness coach.
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Post by Scottrf Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:15 am

Joke decision. No way forward pass.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:15 am

Oh Barnes stop going to the TMO Wink.

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Post by offload Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:15 am

Wales a little lucky there. Seen plenty of passes like that allowed.
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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:15 am

This bar full of New Zealanders didn't like that call.

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:16 am

However, they liked that call a lot.

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Post by yappysnap Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:16 am

Odd call on that last NZ 'non' try, looked like a standard pass and a try to me, couldn't see any difference between it and others.

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Post by yappysnap Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:18 am

Who kick the ball away Wales?!

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Post by offload Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:19 am

What is Amos doing kicking it away again furious
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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:19 am

Thought it was forward in real time, closer on slow mo.

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Post by Biltong Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:23 am

Barnes not at his best, a number of blatant errors
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Post by Not grey and not a ghost Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:23 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:Thought it was forward in real time, closer on slow mo.

I think it'll be one of those calls Barnes looks back on and realises he got it wrong, a bit like the scrum he's just given. Plenty of them in the game. Wales could score here.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 11 Jun 2016, 10:23 am

Good to see our replacement TH is looking overweight again.

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