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Post by George Carlin Fri 03 Jun 2016, 12:49 pm

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SOUTH AFRICA v IRELAND
11 June 2016
17:00 SAST (UTC+02)
DHL Newlands, Cape Town

Live on Sky Sports

Referee: Mathieu Raynal (France)
Touch judges: [tbc]
Television match official: [tbc]

A. Head to Head

22 Played 22
16 Won 5
1 Drawn 1
5 Lost 16
422 Points 277

B. Recent Form

8 November 2014 - Aviva Stadium, Dublin: 29 – 15 to Ireland

10 November 2012 - Aviva Stadium, Dublin: 12 – 16 to South Africa

6 November 2010 - Aviva Stadium, Dublin: 21 – 23 to South Africa

28 November 2009 - Croke Park, Dublin: 15 – 10 to Ireland

11 November 2006 - Lansdowne Road, Dublin: 32 – 15 to Ireland

13 November 2004 - Lansdowne Road, Dublin: 17 – 12 to Ireland

19 June 2004 - Newlands, Cape Town: 26 – 17 to South Africa

C. Teams

SOUTH AFRICA 
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15 Willie le Roux, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Lionel Mapoe, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Pat Lambie, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Siya Kolisi, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Adriaan Strauss (captain), 1 Tendai Mtawarira

Substitutes: 16 Bongi Mbonambi 17 Trevor Nyakane 18 Julian Redelinghuys 19 Pieter-Steph du Toit 20 Warren Whiteley 21 Rudy Paige 22 Elton Jantjies 23 Jesse Kriel

IRELAND
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J Payne; A Trimble, R Henshaw, L Marshall, K Earls; P Jackson, C Murray; J McGrath, R Best, M Ross; I Henderson, D Toner; CJ Stander, J Murphy, J Heaslip

Replacements: S Cronin, F Bealham, T Furlong, U Dillane, R Ruddock, K Marmion, I Madigan, C Gilroy.


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Post by Sin é Sat 11 Jun 2016, 3:16 pm

eirebilly wrote:Sin, I have got Dutch citizenship but I have kept my Irish citizenship. You do not have to give up the Irish citizenship to gain Dutch citizenship. I just travel on a Dutch passport now but can get an Irish one if I wanted to.

Doesn't mean I do not consider myself Irish, in fact as I said before, I have become more patriotic since living in Holland.

You mean you haven't even bothered to renew your Irish passport?
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Post by eirebilly Sat 11 Jun 2016, 3:32 pm

No I haven't, for me a passport is just a travel document, it does not define who I am thumbsup
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Post by Golden Sat 11 Jun 2016, 3:49 pm

This is on sky right?

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Post by Guest Sat 11 Jun 2016, 3:55 pm

SKYSPORTS1

COME ON IRELAND!! South Africa v Ireland, 11 June - Page 9 3933776953

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Post by eirebilly Sat 11 Jun 2016, 3:59 pm

Buzzing, really hope that Paddy has a great game today.
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Post by Biltong Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:00 pm

Good luck Ireland
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Post by wolfball Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:02 pm

Good Luck South Africa, hope its a great one!

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Post by Golden Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:04 pm

COME ON CJ!

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Post by Biltong Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:10 pm

Who the Frak is this ref?

Swallow your whistle and lets play rugby
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Post by Biltong Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:12 pm

Nope this guy has no Frak clue
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Post by Golden Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:17 pm

Is that 7 SA penalties in the first 11 minutes?

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Post by Bone Collector Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:21 pm

Surprise, surprise. Another incompetent French referee.

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Post by Guest Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:29 pm

Well there goes the game...

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Post by Golden Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:30 pm

FOOK!

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:30 pm

That was not a red card.

Did anyone notice the Irish commentator on sky switched from him being Irish to "the South African" when he got red carded?

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:30 pm

Awful decision not even a pen. Horrible mistake given the match to SA.

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Post by westisbest Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:30 pm

Not a red for me.
Bit harsh
Changes the game now.

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:31 pm

Not sure how I feel about that red card. It was a stupid move on CJ's part, but I think the card is more to do with the outcome than action.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:31 pm

So after yesterday's A game for England it seems being screwed over by officials in South Africa will be the norm?


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Post by Biltong Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:31 pm

Poor card there, I have never heard about this guy before .

But he is simply giving this match no chance
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Post by marty2086 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:32 pm

Stander had no chance to charge down the kick? What was he watching?

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Post by eirebilly Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:32 pm

Never a red card that, penalty and possible yellow.

Very hard done by there is CJ.
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Post by toml Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:32 pm

Pathetic

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:32 pm

Absolutely disgraceful decision.

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Post by asoreleftshoulder Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:32 pm

Did the ref tell Best that Stander isn't allowed charge down there?What a joke,really sickened that he's ruined the game like that.

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Post by Pete330v2 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:34 pm

Utterly disgusting decision. That wouldn't have been a penalty if there was no KO.
Game ruined by a pillock of a French ref again

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:34 pm

As far as I can tell, the ref is saying that CJ Stander had no chance of charging down the ball, so it becomes red rather than yellow.

Not sure how you can make that call. When you go up for a charge down, you have no idea where the kick might be going. If you wait to find out, you'll be too late going up.

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Post by kingraf Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:34 pm

Well that was underwhelming. Bye Bye Stander.
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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:34 pm

Bone Collector wrote:Surprise, surprise. Another incompetent French referee.
These refs make me appreciate what we have in the Pro12.

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Post by Biltong Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:34 pm

Game's not ruined yet, these boks are kak
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Post by offload Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:35 pm

If you go flying in and polax a player with a head high body check, you can't really complain if you get sent off. Some refs might give a yellow, but many a straight red. Stupid and unecessary from Stander.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:35 pm

Punished for legitimately charging down the ball? Disgraceful. The referee should be punished for such a pathetic and crucial decision that has ruined this game.

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Post by prop_lyd Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:35 pm

Ridiculous red, maybe a yellow due to the outcome but it is almost like the real time made it look worse! At least Stander can say he knocked someone out with his butt!!
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Post by toml Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:35 pm

It could have been a shallower kick?

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Post by marty2086 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:35 pm

Rugby Fan wrote:As far as I can tell, the ref is saying that CJ Stander had no chance of charging down the ball, so it becomes red rather than yellow.

Not sure how you can make that call. When you go up for a charge down, you have no idea where the kick might be going. If you wait to find out, you'll be too late going up.

Thats French logic for you

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Post by kingraf Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:38 pm

Lambie was dropped cold on a senseless charge. I'm surprised no one here thinks that merited at least a second look by the ref
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Post by marty2086 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:39 pm

kingraf wrote:Lambie was dropped cold on a senseless charge. I'm surprised no one here thinks that merited at least a second look by the ref

Who said it didnt merit a look? It was hardly senseless as Lambie was kicking, it was fruitless theres a big difference

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Post by Biltong Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:40 pm

Well this half of rugby reminds me why I stopped watching South African rugby
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:40 pm

kingraf wrote:Lambie was dropped cold on a senseless charge. I'm surprised no one here thinks that merited at least a second look by the ref

Of course it did. On second viewing it was a legitimate charge down (albeit clumsy). Very unfortunate accident that should have been a penalty.

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Post by Galted Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:40 pm

kingraf wrote:Lambie was dropped cold on a senseless charge. I'm surprised no one here thinks that merited at least a second look by the ref

Rugby in the northern hemisphere is all about whining about the ref for 80 minutes plus however long he unfairly adds on at the end.
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Post by Biltong Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:40 pm

Pisspoor tackle on Jantjies there
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Post by Golden Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:41 pm

Blocking?

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Post by Golden Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:42 pm

Down to 13 Poopie

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Post by eirebilly Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:42 pm

This referee is a feican joke.
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Post by prop_lyd Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:42 pm

That is a joke!! Just a big hit head on.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:42 pm

Deary dearly me. What is going on.


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Post by marty2086 Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:43 pm

Sweet Jesus, the fix is in

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:43 pm

Can't complain about the yellow card but there was an obstruction there that allowed the try to be scored. Madness.

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Post by offload Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:44 pm

This Irish team has no discipline - they are throwing away a chance at beating a poor SA.
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Post by prop_lyd Sat 11 Jun 2016, 4:44 pm

Biltong wrote:Well this half of rugby reminds me why I stopped watching South African rugby
Agree it needed a second look but not a red.
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