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Post by mckay1402 on Thu 13 Oct 2016, 3:53 pm

What do you guys think is the hierarchy of championships? I'm talking British, European, Commonwealth etc...

I'm just wondering how far off world level someone would consider themselves if they were a commonwealth champion...

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Post by Guest on Thu 13 Oct 2016, 3:56 pm

Depends on the individual, some fighters are smart enough to realize that the Commonwealth includes fighters who work in Call Centres or wrestle bears for a living.

Some fighters seem to think that one win makes them p4p top ten

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Post by mckay1402 on Thu 13 Oct 2016, 4:00 pm

OK. If you look at the recent commonwealth light heavies there are some decent names on there who would probably consider themselves world class. Let's sat Callum Johnson who is now the commonwealth light heavy champion. Should he consider that the next level is worlds or is he probably at a plateau?
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Post by Guest on Thu 13 Oct 2016, 4:20 pm

Given he'd need to be fighting Kovalev or Ward and be more than just competitive to be considered World class then he might want to re-examine what level he's actually at. For me, Commonwealth is on a par with European level and for the longest time, Euro level fighters were barely fringe 15-20 on the World stage. Not much has changed except for the bullsh!t that gets spun these days. Win a Euro title and your almost guaranteed to be ranked top five irrespective of who else is in the division.

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Post by mckay1402 on Thu 13 Oct 2016, 4:53 pm

He hasn't said anything about it. I'm just curious.
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Post by Guest on Thu 13 Oct 2016, 5:11 pm

mckay1402 wrote:He hasn't said anything about it.  I'm just curious.
It's in his head though, either put there by him or his team.

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Thu 13 Oct 2016, 5:34 pm

Depends how good the fighter is

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Post by mckay1402 on Fri 14 Oct 2016, 1:38 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
mckay1402 wrote:He hasn't said anything about it.  I'm just curious.
It's in his head though, either put there by him or his team.

What are you basing that on? The fact that he's targeting Cleverly? hardly world level...
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Post by Guest on Fri 14 Oct 2016, 1:52 pm

mckay1402 wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
mckay1402 wrote:He hasn't said anything about it.  I'm just curious.
It's in his head though, either put there by him or his team.

What are you basing that on?  The fact that he's targeting Cleverly?  hardly world level...
No, I'm basing it on human nature and the fact that people will generally compare themselves to others within a particular niche (not necessarily in an obsessive way just as a yardstick for their own performances).

I'm not suggesting this lad or his team thinks he's world class but they'll be using various fighters and looking at where he is in comparison to them at the same stage in their careers. It's only natural.

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Post by hazharrison on Fri 14 Oct 2016, 6:43 pm

I'd say these days it's: Commonwealth, British, European and then the dodgy ABC variations. Sadly, some kids miss out the traditional route to fight for a BMX silver or STD junior belt (to earn a top ten rating for a full UTI body.

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Post by mckay1402 on Fri 21 Oct 2016, 1:44 pm

hazharrison wrote:I'd say these days it's: Commonwealth, British, European and then the dodgy ABC variations. Sadly, some kids miss out the traditional route to fight for a BMX silver or STD junior belt (to earn a top ten rating for a full UTI body.

Thank you. This is what I was asking...
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Post by horizontalhero on Fri 21 Oct 2016, 1:58 pm

Honeyghan and Lewis, the only true undisputed champions we have had in the last thirty years both won British, commonwealth, European and then the world titles- right way to go as far as i'm concerned.- win one, then you earned the right to try and win the next won.

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Post by AdamT on Fri 21 Oct 2016, 2:58 pm

I would of said British and commonwealth are on par. Obviously then European, followed by the alphabet straps.

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