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ENGLAND v ARGENTINA
26 November 2016
14:30 GMT (UTC+0)
Twickenham Stadium, London

Live on Sky Sports 1

Referee: Pascal Gauzère (France)
Assistant Referees: Marius Mitrea (Italy), Ian Davies (Wales)
TMO: Gareth Simmonds (Wales)

A. Head to Head

19 Played 19
14 Won 4
1 Drawn 1
4 Lost 14
488 Points 282

B. Recent Form

9 November 2013
Twickenham, London
31 – 12 to England

15 June 2013
Estadio José Amalfitani, Buenos Aires
26 – 51 to England

8 June 2013
Estadio Padre Ernesto Martearena, Salta
3 – 32 to England

10 September 2011
Otago Stadium, Dunedin, New Zealand
13 – 9 to England

14 November 2009
Twickenham, London
16 – 9 to England

13 June 2009
Padre Ernesto Martearena, Salta
24 – 22 to Argentina

6 June 2009
Old Trafford, Manchester
37 – 15 to England

11 November 2006
Twickenham, London
18 – 25 to Argentina

C. Teams

ENGLAND 
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15 Mike Brown, 14 Jonny May, 13 Jonathan Joseph, 12 Owen Farrell, 11 Elliot Daly, 10 George Ford, 9 Ben Youngs, 8 Billy Vunipola, 7 Tom Wood, 6 Chris Robshaw, 5 George Kruis, 4 Courtney Lawes, 3 Dan Cole, 2 Dylan Hartley (c), 1 Mako Vunipola

Replacements: 16 Jamie George, 17 Joe Marler, 18 Kyle Sinckler, 19 Charlie Ewels, 20 Teimana Harrison,, 21 Danny Care, 22 Ben Te’o, 23 Henry Slade

ARGENTINA
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15 Joaquín Tuculet, 14 Matías Orlando, 13 Matías Moroni, 12 Santiago González Iglesias, 11 Santiago Cordero, 10 Juan Martín Hernández, 9 Tomás Cubelli, 8 Leonardo Senatore, 7 Javier Ortega Desio, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Matías Alemanno, 4 Guido Petti, 3 Ramiro Herrera, 2 Agustín Creevy (c), 1 Lucas Noguera

Replacements: 16 Julián Montoya, 17 Santiago García Botta, 18 Enrique Pieretto, 19 Facundo Isa, 20 Tomas Lezana, 21 Martin Landajo, 22 Jerónimo De la Fuente, 23 Juan Pablo Estelles


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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:08 pm

Just keep going lads!

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:09 pm

Actually Harrison is clearing and tackling well. Close in.


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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:11 pm

Great scrum

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:14 pm

another yellow for the Arg.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:14 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Great scrum

that was a statement from the fresh guys I think.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:14 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Actually Harrison is clearing and tackling well. Close in.


that's fair, he is now, working hard around the fringe.

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Post by stub Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:15 pm

What's happened to Faz?

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Post by stub Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:16 pm

Mayyyyyyyy!

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Post by lostinwales Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:16 pm

Impact subs... We are going to win this

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:16 pm

well that was good. 14 each and the difference shows.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:16 pm

England have been te much much much better side all game
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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:17 pm

Yyyeeeeessssesssss!!!!!

What spirit from the boys!!!

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Post by nathan Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:17 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:Great scrum

that was a statement from the fresh guys I think.

Or to do with the others teams subs

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Post by wolfball Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:19 pm

Argentina are a dire team. Its not like England has been unreal with 14. Argentina save 1-2 players is just dire.

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:19 pm

May has had a great game

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:21 pm

I agree Argentina are poor

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Post by stub Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:21 pm

Brown is looking dertermined.

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Post by Scottrf Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:22 pm

Has the ref spotted anything this game? TMO should take his pay.

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Post by Gwlad Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:22 pm

Brown literally throws his toys this time Rolling Eyes

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Post by Gwlad Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:24 pm

actually penalty try england. argentina player is off his feet so can't play ball…or did Brown just drop it

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:24 pm

But its been a good fighting performance by us today....

Even Harrison

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:24 pm

high tackle off the ball.. no action.

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Post by stub Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:25 pm

Yes England have shown a bit of character in a scrappy disjointed sort of a game.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:26 pm

Illegal tackles in the Brown failed try...
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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:26 pm

Dirty argies!!!

Wood and Mako top tacklers good effort.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:28 pm

Te referee had been awful. Lacks conviction, lacks consistency. Don't mind mistakes but I'm not sure what he's adding
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:29 pm

a stamp on the head.

if they allow this then they are a disgrace. the eng red card wasn't intended either.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:31 pm

First call referee has gotten right for 70 minutes
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:31 pm

red card for the disgusting arg stamp on the head but Marler yellow carded.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:32 pm

Once the team settled down to business at 16-14, they looked pretty good. harrison clearly had nerves but straightened up and played well.

However, I credit Daly as creating the inspiration for the game today. Thank you Elliot.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:34 pm

just sevens nonsense now basically.

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:35 pm

Well falcons bungle to a win and England put in a great fighting performance!!!

Time for more broon ale!

Have a good weekend everyone!!

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:36 pm

Is Brown ok? Looked hurt earlier but might just have been winded
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Post by mid_gen Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:37 pm

Sinckler looks better every cap. Coming along very nicely!

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:37 pm

The performance of the back row in general under Jones including the much maligned Wood and Robshaw has been a big positive.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:39 pm

well to win that was a very impressive example of overcoming an impossible situation.

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Post by nathan Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:40 pm

doctor_grey wrote:Once the team settled down to business at 16-14, they looked pretty good.  harrison clearly had nerves but straightened up and played well.  

However, I credit Daly as creating the inspiration for the game today.  Thank you Elliot.

Silver linings huh, I think they've learnt more today than if they had 15 on the pitch

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Post by stub Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:40 pm

Not a great game but a good win nonetheless. I wonder who we've got left for the Aussies..

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Post by nathan Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:40 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:well to win that was a very impressive example of overcoming an impossible situation.

Lol, it wasn't an impossible situation. I'm glad you are not in the England camp as the team would be beaten before stepping foot on the field.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:41 pm

England were pretty much dominant with 14 men
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Post by lostinwales Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:41 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:The performance of the back row in general under Jones including the much maligned Wood and Robshaw has been a big positive.

Wood did have a spell looking a bit powder puff, but Robshaw has always been good. The black marks for Robshaw have only come about because of the captaincy decisions that went wrong - which were not even bad decisions as such - just ones which didn't work out.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:42 pm

Largely because Argentina looked so poor
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Post by stub Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:42 pm

mid_gen wrote:Sinckler looks better every cap. Coming along very nicely!

Yep he looked good.

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Post by lostinwales Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:43 pm

nathan wrote:
trebellbobaggins wrote:well to win that was a very impressive example of overcoming an impossible situation.

Lol, it wasn't an impossible situation. I'm glad you are not in the England camp as the team would be beaten before stepping foot on the field.

He's always like that so don't take it seriously. Its his way of not jinxing the team

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Post by offload Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:43 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:First call referee has gotten right for 70 minutes

Ref had an excellent game.
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:43 pm

lostinwales wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:The performance of the back row in general under Jones including the much maligned Wood and Robshaw has been a big positive.

Wood did have a spell looking a bit powder puff, but Robshaw has always been good. The black marks for Robshaw have only come about because of the captaincy decisions that went wrong - which were not even bad decisions as such - just ones which didn't work out.

I just think that Lancaster misused Wood a fair bit, tried having him play like Tom Croft whereas Jones just gets the back row to use their physicality, he's looked a lot stronger this autumn.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:44 pm

maybe the one positive is what that will have done for their defensive nerve.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:45 pm

lostinwales wrote:
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trebellbobaggins wrote:well to win that was a very impressive example of overcoming an impossible situation.

Lol, it wasn't an impossible situation. I'm glad you are not in the England camp as the team would be beaten before stepping foot on the field.

He's always like that so don't take it seriously. Its his way of not jinxing the team

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Post by nathan Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:46 pm

lostinwales wrote:
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trebellbobaggins wrote:well to win that was a very impressive example of overcoming an impossible situation.

Lol, it wasn't an impossible situation. I'm glad you are not in the England camp as the team would be beaten before stepping foot on the field.

He's always like that so don't take it seriously. Its his way of not jinxing the team

Not taking it seriously, just trying to make him see some positives. Life is so much better with positives. The players will have learnt an awful lot today

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 26 Nov 2016, 4:48 pm

now that is true Nathan. if they have learned more about their defensive game then that is positive.

Aussie have to be favourites next week though by some margin.

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