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Post by wheelchair1991 on Tue 13 Dec 2016, 7:33 pm

First topic message reminder :

Yes you read that correctly, in early 2017 Chris Eubank Jr is going to be on ITV PPV against Renold Quinlan for the IBO super middleweight strap.

Discuss

This is really taking the **** in my view

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Post by neilodonnell on Tue 10 Jan 2017, 3:21 pm

I really can't see how this generates more than a million £. Unless we are all massively shocked and 150,000 plus purchase the event, I just can't see how the event is financially viable.


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Post by smashingstormcrow on Tue 10 Jan 2017, 3:46 pm

I really think he's doing himself a massive disservice.. he needs to be building his profile, putting in some good performances in front of as many people as possible. Very short-sighted move.

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Tue 10 Jan 2017, 4:22 pm

Wonder what ITV will be getting for the advertising slots. Surely the advertisers are more canny than ITV and know this is BS, especially the PPV element.

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Post by milkyboy on Tue 10 Jan 2017, 7:36 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:Wonder what ITV will be getting for the advertising slots.  Surely the advertisers are more canny than ITV and know this is BS, especially the PPV element.
Obviously it varies but, ppv channel numbers are generally low compared to free to air. The broadcaster relies on ppv sales for revenue over ad revenue. So in this case it will be the grand total of f-all plus f-all... which is approximately f-all

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Post by milkyboy on Tue 10 Jan 2017, 7:38 pm

BoxingFan88 wrote:Apparently the ppv is 12.95

Wouldn't pay 12p

The decimal point might keep moving nearer fight night. You may get to test your resistance at 12p by fightnight.

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Post by ShahenshahG on Tue 10 Jan 2017, 7:42 pm

Maybe Milky, but anyone who pays for this is a guaranteed easily influenced mug. advertisers might take the view that 10k birds in the hand are worth more than 1 million birds in the bush.

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Wed 11 Jan 2017, 10:01 am

milkyboy wrote:
BoxingFan88 wrote:Apparently the ppv is 12.95

Wouldn't pay 12p

The decimal point might keep moving nearer fight night. You may get to test your resistance at 12p by fightnight.

HAHAHA

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Post by Neil O\'Donnell on Wed 11 Jan 2017, 8:41 pm

Price now down to £9.95 if you pay in advance
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Post by BoxingFan88 on Wed 11 Jan 2017, 8:52 pm

Still not 12p though....

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 12 Jan 2017, 9:39 am

Neil O'Donnell wrote:Price now down to £9.95 if you pay in advance

Haha seriously??!

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Thu 12 Jan 2017, 11:32 am

Would only like to echo what's already been said really he hasn't earned ppv status not by a long way this is very arrogant of the Eubanks

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Thu 12 Jan 2017, 11:57 am

I mean Boxnation is £12 a month

That PPV alone is not worth a Boxnation monthly sub lol

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Post by milkyboy on Thu 12 Jan 2017, 12:35 pm

BoxingFan88 wrote:Still not 12p though....

At this rate, it could hit 12p ahead of schedule.

It may be the first ppv, where they pay you to watch it.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed 18 Jan 2017, 7:58 pm

You don't know if it is selling yet....We are coming at it from discerning fight fans...Cleverley v Bellew shows there are plenty of dunkin donuts about...

His Dad fought on ITV....Name recognition may help the promo..

10 cherries isn't alot money now is it ??...Wifey may treat Hubby...

Bet it does 100k

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Post by qc2 on Wed 18 Jan 2017, 9:48 pm

i think it all comes down to how easy it is made to order. I say unless it could be ordered in a semi conscious state in under 30 seconds it does less than 50k

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 10:04 am

Yes, because the way prices react to demand pressure is for them to reduce.... Rolling Eyes

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Post by Derbymanc on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 10:05 am

The undercard is free on ITV 3 or 4 (keep an eye out for The Wire, top class boxer)

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 1:52 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:Yes, because the way prices react to demand pressure is for them to reduce.... Rolling Eyes

My post is set in the present. Bit like saying you don't know if Trump will mess up on his big day.

I am aware of market forces

Too much haste by you in trying to be a sneering smarty....me thinks.

Feel free to add something of substance one of these days... Cool


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Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 2:30 pm

PPV marketed at £20 (£25 HD).........then about £15..............now £13..............

But yes, there's no way we have any indication of how it's selling.

So on the contrary, you're the one trying to sound a smart @rse, as always.

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Post by marty2086 on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 2:50 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:PPV marketed at £20 (£25 HD).........then about £15..............now £13..............

But yes, there's no way we have any indication of how it's selling.

So on the contrary, you're the one trying to sound a smart @rse, as always.

How many people book a PPV 2 weeks before hand though?

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 2:58 pm

How many PPVs have to keep getting relaunched at reduced prices...??

Reckon buys crescendo to fight night, assuming proper/well marketing (non-existant here), with maybe a little initial peak at first release.

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Post by marty2086 on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 3:02 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:How many PPVs have to keep getting relaunched at reduced prices...??

Reckon buys crescendo to fight night, assuming proper/well marketing (non-existant here), with maybe a little initial peak at first release.

You can't even buy the PPV yet, you can only register for the service from tomorrow

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Post by marty2086 on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 3:03 pm

Its also only £9.95 early bird and £12.95 full price, the price structure was only announced last week

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 4:32 pm

Fallen again?? Christ almighty.

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Post by marty2086 on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 4:33 pm

It never fell, some are just creating their own narrative it seems Rolling Eyes

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 4:38 pm

£12 isn't a lot of money....Me it's the principle of paying for a guy like Eubank at this stage of his career.....

Couple of glasses of wine in a bar to others..

Wouldn't be too quick to write off this PPV...Unfortunately.

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Post by Mochyn du on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 5:18 pm

I have never paid for a PPV and never will. It's for mugs. The world is full of mugs. The reason for the existence of PPV TV, celeb magazines and reality TV is because of mugs. And lots of them.

Go to a late license pub to watch it, those pubs with a picture of a beer glass in the bottom left hand corner of the screen. That's what I do.

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 5:23 pm

marty2086 wrote:It never fell, some are just creating their own narrative it seems Rolling Eyes

They tested it at higher (press annoncements etc) and it kept falling until they found a level they could launch it at.

Sub-£10 for the ITV PPV has not existed as a concept until about a week ago. When the deal was first announced nobody was selling it as a sub-tenner steal.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 5:40 pm

Mochyn du wrote:I have never paid for a PPV and never will.  It's for mugs.  The world is full of mugs.  The reason for the existence of PPV TV, celeb magazines and reality TV is because of mugs.  And lots of them.

Go to a late license pub to watch it, those pubs with a picture of a beer glass in the bottom left hand corner of the screen.  That's what I do.  

I imagine it's customers like you that help pay the PPV price for these bars to show it...

So in essence you're a mug like the rest of us..

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Post by marty2086 on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 7:12 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
marty2086 wrote:It never fell, some are just creating their own narrative it seems Rolling Eyes

They tested it at higher (press annoncements etc) and it kept falling until they found a level they could launch it at.

Sub-£10 for the ITV PPV has not existed as a concept until about a week ago.  When the deal was first announced nobody was selling it as a sub-tenner steal.

Yet their announcements never mentioned prices

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 8:31 pm

They definitely did.

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Post by marty2086 on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 9:01 pm

Where?

Dec 13th when Quinlan was announced

The Eubank Jnr v Quinlan contest will be the first time ITV has shown a pay per view event. ITV Box Office will be widely available to viewers on television and online. Full details of The Big Fight Live undercard, how to register to view and the competitive prices for the bout, will be revealed well in advance of the event.

There have no announcements or press releases until they announced the prices etc

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Post by Rowley on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 9:07 pm

Eubank Snr was the one mentioning 20 quid. Not sure it was official, but he mentioned it a lot in tweets. Folk worked on the assumption that as father of one of the fighters it would be fair to assume this was accurate. Not the most unreasonable assumption in all fairness.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu 19 Jan 2017, 9:52 pm

Son loves his Dad...

Dad makes Son squirm when he opens his mouth...

Son knows Dad is clueless..

Family is more important than career..(Rightly so...none of us would sack Dad)

The Chris Eubank Jr story..

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Post by Happytravelling on Sat 21 Jan 2017, 10:45 pm

It's certainly not PPV.

The one thing this may do, is bring boxing back to terrestrial TV.

I'm watching the ITV4 card tonight. Distinctly average.
Arnfield dominated a limited opponent and Davis did a good job putting away a durable and awkward European, whose had a decent record.

Jnr is coming across really well in the interviews, despite his father.

But, the most important thing about this event is, hopefully, this might mark the return of boxing to terrestrial TV.

The UK has a really good, lively boxing scene at the mo. If a terrestrial TV company and a promoter or two could realise that, things could be really good for us fans.

There are more than enough competitive, world class or close to world class divisions in the UK that a lot of good cards can be made.

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Post by Mr Bounce on Sun 22 Jan 2017, 8:16 am

I watched some of last night's card too. They were pushing the Eubank fight like anything. IIRC they were looking to charge £9.95 in advance.

It doesn't warrant it at all.

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Post by Valero's Conscience on Sun 22 Jan 2017, 6:10 pm

If you want to kick start boxing on free to watch TV, you have to at least go in heavy (even at a cost) i.e. get names on there to entice people in and fan friendly match ups. It may be the first time for some and need to win them over.

I got into boxing from watching Froch vs Pascal on ITV, watching very low-key events won't cut it then asking for £10 for Eubank won't be successful.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Sun 22 Jan 2017, 8:31 pm

I imagine there will be a limit to the fighters Eubank and ITV will a) Have access to...b) Be able to afford if they are paying Eubank good money..

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Mon 23 Jan 2017, 10:51 am

Apparently the undercard will NOT be on ITV4.

Confirmed by ITV Sport over Twitter this weekend.

So there is no boxing on terrestrial tv.

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Post by Derbymanc on Mon 23 Jan 2017, 11:39 am

Beat me to it Toppy, they had 3 fights on this weekend, not bad but got a bit annoyed at the cutting to the Eubanks instead of showing highlights of the other fights (I used to like Ringside for that).

I know they've got to promote this dud but have an advert before the breaks or something.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Mon 23 Jan 2017, 12:02 pm

When Utd played Liverpool on SKY........It got 2.8m...........That's a big game....

When Frampton fought on ITV against a nobody they got 2m......

Whilst Eubank's is a joke fight...............I imagine the audience the other night was bigger than the usual Saturday fight live on non SKY ppv..

Not sure how this plays out.........It's cheap and crappy PPV has sold before...

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Mon 23 Jan 2017, 12:50 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:When Utd played Liverpool on SKY........It got 2.8m...........That's a big game....

When Frampton fought on ITV against a nobody they got 2m......

Whilst Eubank's is a joke fight...............I imagine the audience the other night was bigger than the usual Saturday fight live on non SKY ppv..

Not sure how this plays out.........It's cheap and crappy PPV has sold before...

But will they pay to see it?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Mon 23 Jan 2017, 12:56 pm

BoxingFan88 wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:When Utd played Liverpool on SKY........It got 2.8m...........That's a big game....

When Frampton fought on ITV against a nobody they got 2m......

Whilst Eubank's is a joke fight...............I imagine the audience the other night was bigger than the usual Saturday fight live on non SKY ppv..

Not sure how this plays out.........It's cheap and crappy PPV has sold before...

But will they pay to see it?

If I told you four years ago that Trump would be President you'd have thought I was crazy..

All bets are off.........I hope it doesn't do decent numbers but I'm not as sure as other people it won't.

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Post by EX7EY on Fri 27 Jan 2017, 10:10 pm

Has anybody seen the press conference for this? Wow. I don't think I have any words.

Amateur hour. Hearn and Warren will be wetting their pants.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Sat 28 Jan 2017, 12:10 pm

Bellew v Haye...Punch thrown and subsequent melee

Chisora v Whyte...Objects thrown and fines dished out.

If only ITV had Hearn to advise them.

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat 28 Jan 2017, 12:17 pm

Not watched build up, not worthy of my time. Is anyone actually paying for this?!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Sat 28 Jan 2017, 12:21 pm

Not paying for any fight that has been announced so far for PPV in 2017.

All slaughters..

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 28 Jan 2017, 3:55 pm

I have a feeling this will do far better numbers than expected; my mum who didn't know who Ricky Hatton was is buying it.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 03 Feb 2017, 10:34 am

Price v Hammer as Chief support.... Rolling Eyes

I'd pay to see them tile my roof and that is about it..

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Post by marty2086 on Fri 03 Feb 2017, 12:29 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:I have a feeling this will do far better numbers than expected; my mum who didn't know who Ricky Hatton was is buying it.

Im sure that'll be a big boost to the numbers Whistle

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