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Post by nathan Mon 20 Feb 2017 - 21:01

First topic message reminder :

28 players that have been kept.

Forwards (16): Jack Clifford (Harlequins), Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers), Charlie Ewels (Bath), Jamie George (Saracens), Teimana Harrison (Northampton Saints), Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints), James Haskell (Wasps), Nathan Hughes (Wasps), Maro Itoje (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Joe Marler (Harlequins), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Mike Williams (Leicester Tigers), Tom Wood (Northampton Saints)

Backs (12): Mike Brown (Harlequins), Danny Care (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Bath), Jonathan Joseph (Bath), Jonny May (Gloucester), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Ben Te’o (Worcester Warriors), Anthony Watson (Bath), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:19

Monye normally talks dribble but why has Flatman started doing that as well?

England look like they are expecting a victory. Very loose and nowhere near the required intensity.

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Post by EnglishReign Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:19

Gotta feel for Italy though, a decent kicker would have them 6-0 up.

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Post by TightHEAD Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:20

Eddie needs to make an example of someone, take them off and drop them from the squad.

Early signs are England thought they were going to walk this. They have turned up for a training session.
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Post by Geordie Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:20

I have been a huge fan of Mike Brown...but I think the time has come for him to move aside.

Think we need someone at the back there who can mix up their play...not just the predictable run it through a crowd of players.

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Post by EnglishReign Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:21

Brown is an absolute pleb for not passing to May earlier about 5 mins ago.

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Post by TightHEAD Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:21

GeordieFalcon wrote:I have been a huge fan of Mike Brown...but I think the time has come for him to move aside.

Think we need someone at the back there who can mix up their play...not just the predictable run it through a crowd of players.

Watson.
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Post by Geordie Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:23

or Daly

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Post by SecretFly Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:23

Relax people. Plenty of time.

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Post by TightHEAD Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:23

Take the 3 points
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Post by TightHEAD Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:24

NOOOOOOOOOOO......
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Post by Heaf Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:24

EnglishReign wrote:Gotta feel for Italy though, a decent kicker would have them 6-0 up.

If they'd got the first one though the whole game plays out differently from there ...

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Post by SecretFly Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:25

Italy should now offload Parisse to help improve their game longterm.

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Post by RDW Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:25

Clever tactic from Italy but Poite isn't reffing it well - there's been several rucks where he's called tackle only incorrectly

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Post by EnglishReign Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:25

Heaf wrote:
EnglishReign wrote:Gotta feel for Italy though, a decent kicker would have them 6-0 up.

If they'd got the first one though the whole game plays out differently from there ...

True enough.

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Post by yappysnap Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:25

Good to see Cole running that try in for England.

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Post by kingelderfield Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:26

Jones will hook Farrell at this rate

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Post by kingelderfield Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:26

And Care

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Post by Heaf Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:26

RDW_Scotland wrote:Clever tactic from Italy but Poite isn't reffing it well - there's been several rucks where he's called tackle only incorrectly

Indeed - they're fooling him too ..

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Post by yappysnap Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:27

Farrell should be taken off early doors I think

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Post by EnglishReign Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:27

Surely an Italian knock on first?!

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Post by TightHEAD Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:28

It's not in the spirit of the game, Italy should be thrown out the six nations.
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Post by kingelderfield Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:29

I still think we'll win by a large margin, there's just a lot of air in the system

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Post by EnglishReign Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:30

Almost want Italy to score to wake us up.

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Post by TightHEAD Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:30

Ruck formed ever time there yet the 9 is running round the back. F ing joke
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Post by SecretFly Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:30

TightHEAD wrote:It's not in the spirit of the game, Italy should be thrown out the six nations.

Are they doing something illegal?

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Post by Heaf Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:31

Poite is cutting them a lot of slack

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Post by Geordie Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:31

This is utter dredge!!

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Post by TightHEAD Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:32

SecretFly wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:It's not in the spirit of the game, Italy should be thrown out the six nations.
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Are they doing something illegal?


Yes, but the Ref keeps missing the non tackling Italian player forming the ruck!
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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:33

James Haskell : What can we do to make it a ruck?
Roman Poite : I don't know, I'm the referee, not your coach!

Priceless!!!
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Post by Heaf Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:34

I've seen at least 3 rucks called as tackle only

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Post by kingelderfield Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:34

Good points from Italy

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Post by mid_gen Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:36

Gotta give COS credit, this tactic has totally thrown us.

I expect EJ will sort them out at half time with a counter plan still though.

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Post by Heaf Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:36

where do the laws say the players have to initiate the contact for a ruck - surely if an opposing player binds to you you're in the ruck?

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Post by EnglishReign Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:36

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:James Haskell : What can we do to make it a ruck?
Roman Poite : I don't know, I'm the referee, not your coach!

Priceless!!!

Probably why he can't tell the difference.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:37

TightHEAD wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:It's not in the spirit of the game, Italy should be thrown out the six nations.
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Are they doing something illegal?


Yes, but the Ref keeps missing the non tackling Italian player forming the ruck!

If Danby Care can drop the gormless pointing routine at the tackle and starts getting the forwards to just pick and drive the centre of the tackle area where the Italians are light then you can make easy yards.

Even more Care could be looking for the box kick crossfield as the Italians aren't well stocked out wide.

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Post by EnglishReign Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:38

How is anyone down injured?! F all is an exaggeration of what these lot have done so far.

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Post by kingelderfield Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:38

We'll you've got to admit this is all a bit different.

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Post by RDW Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:38

I think Poite needs to remind himself what a ruck is at halftime!

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Post by Geordie Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:39

mid_gen wrote:Gotta give COS credit, this tactic has totally thrown us.

I expect EJ will sort them out at half time
with a counter plan still though.

It'll be the hairdryer treatment I think!

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Post by tigertattie Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:40

Italy are pulling England down to their level. This match is like two bald men fighting over a comb
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Post by kingelderfield Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:40

GeordieFalcon wrote:
mid_gen wrote:Gotta give COS credit, this tactic has totally thrown us.

I expect EJ will sort them out at half time
with a counter plan still though.

It'll be the hairdryer treatment I think!

The Saturn 6 will be lit in 300 seconds

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Post by kingelderfield Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:41

GeordieFalcon wrote:
mid_gen wrote:Gotta give COS credit, this tactic has totally thrown us.

I expect EJ will sort them out at half time
with a counter plan still though.

It'll be the hairdryer treatment I think!

The Saturn 6 will be lit in 300 seconds

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Post by marty2086 Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:41

George Ayoub has a strange interpretation of what standing still is

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Post by Geordie Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:41

Why did Danny Care kick it???!!!!!!!!

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Post by lostinwales Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:43

Wake me up when the game starts...

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Post by kingelderfield Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:43

ITV will be well pisssed

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Post by SecretFly Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:43

great kick

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:44

GeordieFalcon wrote:Why did Danny Care kick it???!!!!!!!!

Danny Care lost all composure 30 seconds into the game. He's been panicking ever since.

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:44

Is Poite not correct? If Italy only have one player making the tackle its not a ruck? It only becomes a ruck if the defence commits another player to the breakdown?

Best bet to get around it would be for the tackled player to pick the ball up and carry on.
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Post by lostinwales Sun 26 Feb 2017 - 15:46

I do think England will score a few tries late on. But my earlier prediction seems all too true right now

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