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Post by catchweight on Thu 23 Feb 2017, 9:11 pm

Looks like the Pacquiao and Khan teams are in negotitaions to set up a major might beteen the two which could happen in the Emirates. Pacquiao publically announced he expects Khan to be his next opponent with Khan tweeting the are in negotitions. Pacquiao's team have been exploring a cash rich fight in the U.A.E for a number of years and Khan would be an obvious opponent with his Muslim background and heritage.

This could be a really good series of fights for the division with Brook v Spence and Thurman v Garcia also set to happen. Heres hoping the all come off without any hitches.

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Post by Jermaine2015 on Thu 23 Feb 2017, 9:59 pm

Manny must be desperate for the money, he's been reported offered $38m. Khan clearly sees this as his last major fight and would probably retired after this.

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 12:22 am

I mean who wouldn't take 38 million for a relatively easy nights work

Manny is also fighting who the fans voted for

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Post by Baby faced assassin on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 9:11 am

So a guy on his way out if the game against a guy who got splattered in his last fight.....so what

Pacquiao should just retire, he's got nothing on the boxer he used to be and in his prime would've taken khan out inside 3
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Post by AdamT on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 10:13 am

I enjoy watching Manny box.

This should be an entertaining fight due to the speed and styles.

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Post by Mr Bounce on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 12:45 pm

Agree with babyface. Pacquiao now against the 2007 version would be annihilated. I still think Khan gets tagged again in this one.
I don't see why it's such a "must see" fight. Much prefer to watch Brook vs Spence. And if Khan does win, he's going to claim he's the best in the world yada yada. Not sure I can deal with that...

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 1:03 pm

I'll say again

He is fighting the guy the fans voted for

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Post by smashingstormcrow on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 1:19 pm

When's the last time Amir beat a genuine top contender? Maidana?

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Post by AdamT on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 1:20 pm

smashingstormcrow wrote:When's the last time Amir beat a genuine top contender? Maidana?

Yes

Some will say Alexander, but he wasn't that good when Amir beat him.

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Post by Jermaine2015 on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 2:19 pm

Khan doesn't have the power to stop PacMan just walking through him. Hand speed and foot speed is fairly similar IMO

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 3:10 pm

BoxingFan88 wrote:I'll say again

He is fighting the guy the fans voted for

It still doesn't make it any good does it.

I would wager if you asked a load of Mexicans who they wanted Alvarez to fight they'd choose Chavez Jnr.

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Post by Dylan1979 on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 3:27 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
BoxingFan88 wrote:I'll say again

He is fighting the guy the fans voted for

It still doesn't make it any good does it.

I would wager if you asked a load of Mexicans who they wanted Alvarez to fight they'd choose Chavez Jnr.

Giving the fans what they want, nothing wrong with that.

Can't begrudge Manny a big pay day either, he's given a lot to the sport as opposed to others who have taken more than they've given back.


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Post by BoxingFan88 on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 6:15 pm

'Doesn't make it any good'

I suppose you won't be watching it then

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 6:45 pm

BoxingFan88 wrote:'Doesn't make it any good'

I suppose you won't be watching it then

I won't be watching you're right, the only Khan fight I'm interested in is Brook.

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Post by catchweight on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 7:55 pm

Its a good fight. Should be an entertaining contest if it comes off. Pacquiao is a faded fighter so Khan might be in with half a chance. Not sure why anyone would be complaining (other than begrudgement).


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Post by melv500 on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 11:46 pm

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Post by melv500 on Fri 24 Feb 2017, 11:50 pm

Don't understand the issue with this fight? Former stable mates, both with good speed and the fact Manni is on the decline makes it more competitive. Decent enough fight between two top 10 WW. Nobody is billing this an elite fight but it's intriguing and both decent names. Boxing isn't always about the elite fighting the elite. You get great fights at every level from regional right to the top. I should think most proper boxing fans like to watch competitive fights. Still think Manni gets him out in 6 thiugh.

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Post by Dylan1979 on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 8:33 am

If Floyd can fight Berto, then I see no reason why Manny can't fight khan

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Post by Mr Bounce on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 12:58 pm

Floyd did what Floyd wanted. Pacquiao wants a Payday (possibly as his last fight?) as does Khan. This fits together very well, but it's a bit like Lewis against Tyson. Everyone wanted to see that in about 1996/97 but Evander threw a spanner in the works. instead it came 5 years too late. Same with Floyd vs Manny.

I like the idea of Manny and Amir fighting each other - I just wish it had been 7 years ago. Watching the shell of a fighter is not the same as watching them in their prime. Ask Roy Jones...

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Post by catchweight on Sat 25 Feb 2017, 1:32 pm

Pacquaio has hardly reached Roy Jones or Mike Tyson level of fossilisation yet. Hes still arguably the best in the division. This isnt a superfight long past its sell by date. Its just a good weltwerweight match up. 7 years ago Khan would be have being doing well to see 3 rounds against Pacquiao I think.

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Post by Atila on Sun 26 Feb 2017, 5:56 am

Apparently, it's on for April 23rd.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/manny-pacquiao-and-amir-khan-agree-to-terms-will-fight-on-april-23-051324126.html

WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao stated earlier in the week that he preferred to face Amir Khan in his next fight instead of promoter Bob Arum’s desired foe, Jeff Horn.

On Saturday night, Pacquiao (58-6-2) took to his Twitter page to announce he will be fighting the former welterweight champion on April 23.

No announcement was made as to where the fight would be taking place.

Yahoo Sports reached out to Arum and Pacquiao advisor Michael Koncz, but had not received comment as of this writing.

Pacquiao, 38, who last fought on Nov. 5 in defeating Jessie Vargas by unanimous decision to win the WBO crown, was expected to face Horn on April 22nd in Brisbane, Australia, in a deal Arum had setup with New Zealand promotional company, Duco Events.

But Pacquiao and his advisor Michael Koncz were talking with a group in the United Arab Emirates to bring Pacquiao’s next fight there and the desired opponent was Khan.

Khan wanted to fight Pacquiao for the last couple years but the eight-division world champion decided to go against Floyd Mayweather and Vargas. The native of England last fought in May when he moved up to middleweight and lost to then-champion Canelo Alvarez by sixth-round knockout.

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Post by B.A. BARACUS on Sun 26 Feb 2017, 9:35 am

BBC sport confirming that the fight has been set for April 23rd.

Begs the question, what has Khan achieved in the last couple of years to warrant this fight.

He's a part time boxer these days who seems to be just in it for the money.

As was the case with Canelo, i don't think Khan will feel he can win this fight but a loss would not be too detrimental for his 'career' (i use that term loosely) as Manny is still considered one of the best in the world.

I cant think of many boxers who could go from being sparked in their last fight and then being named as the next opponent to probably the biggest name in boxing

I would have preferred him to have a victory over a solid welterweight before being given this fight but it appears that he's going to go from being leathered by Alvarez to being given a beat down by Manny.

I hope Khan retires after this fight. Nothing against him at all but his career as a whole has been a let down.

Never really made the adjustment from an outstanding amateur into a top professional in my book and after the pasting by Prescott, the template for the rest of his career was set when he failed to avenge that defeat by claiming Prescott was beneath him and went to seek his fame across the pond.

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Post by milkyboy on Sun 26 Feb 2017, 11:51 am

I guess he has the higher weight bigger man excuse for canelo. Really though since when did whether someone deserves a fight come into it. We can name a host of PAC and may victims who were undeserving.

Khan has a bit of a name, is generally in exciting fights, and ultimately is still marketable. All things being equal, its still a fight I'd watch, even if it's not one I'm salivating for.

Khan's a bright lights big city boy. He wants the names, I'm sure he thinks he can win, no doubt the dollars look good too but you can't blame him for wanting and taking it.

I'm not sure why everyone is so down on this... I'd rather Khan fought brook, but then I'm really happy to see brook spence... and until someone proves otherwise, even an aging PAC might still be the best welter out there.

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Post by melv500 on Sun 26 Feb 2017, 12:35 pm

I would have liked to see Brook v Khan but i woukd take what we have now over that. Who knows if Khan can somehow get the win and Brook can get past Spence then they will definitely get it on and would be a great all British fight. But if either of them lose then that fight I doubt happens especially if it's Brook who loses.

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Post by compelling and rich on Sun 26 Feb 2017, 1:42 pm

fair play to team khan, there making sure amir gets a good pay day for getting his arse handed to him. as long as pac has some speed and power left should be fairly easy for him, because despite khans speed he's fairly easy to hit. pac should be able to find him at will.

those who said this should have happened 7 years ago must really dislike khan. would have been hatton fight all over again

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Post by Atila on Sun 26 Feb 2017, 1:54 pm

Pacquiao hasn't managed a stoppage win of any kind since the Cotto fight in 2009. Wonder if he'll manage to stop soft chinned Khan?

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Post by melv500 on Sun 26 Feb 2017, 2:02 pm

Pac has ample power to take Khan out with either hand I have no doubt about that. Khans only prayer is if he somehow produces a defence masterclass but we all know that's unlikely. In fact I wouldn't bet againsr than Khan got ko'd a few times before by Pac in sparring.

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Post by compelling and rich on Sun 26 Feb 2017, 2:08 pm

Atila wrote:Pacquiao hasn't managed a stoppage win of any kind since the Cotto fight in 2009. Wonder if he'll manage to stop soft chinned Khan?

to be fair, clottey, marg, mosley bradley x 2 were in there. some great chins in there. add mayweather who doesnt get hit.

surely in this pac will be training for some heavier shots rather than trying to box khan. its the much easier method of victory

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Post by AdamT on Sun 26 Feb 2017, 3:23 pm

I hope Khan doesn't get a brutal knock out against him again. His self promotion used to bug me, but I don't hate the fella.

In fact I would like to see him beat Pac as the underdog. If he does, or at least loses In points, he could fight Brook next. Obviously providing Brook wins, or is at least competitive vs Spence.

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Post by AdamT on Sun 26 Feb 2017, 3:34 pm

In fact I've done a full 360 on Khan. Liked him at start and started to go off him a few years back (around the time he fought Peterson).

However he has always shown courage, even after being brutally stopped. He should of fought Brook, but can't blame him for a good payday against a modern great.

I am definitely rooting for a Khan win. Maybe Pacquiao will lack the power he had and Khan might out point him. I hope he does.

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Post by bhb001 on Mon 27 Feb 2017, 7:36 am

I'm not a Khan fan Smile but do wish him well in this. It is the fight he has wanted for a good few years and now has it. The fact that he has chased this or mayweather at the expense of all other fights has truly pi$$ed me off in the past. But if he makes some lucre on this, all power to him. I can't see him winning it, but will be pleased if his did

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Mon 27 Feb 2017, 8:14 am

I don't think Khan can win this

He won't outbox Pacquiao and he can't take the power either

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Post by AdamT on Mon 27 Feb 2017, 9:09 am

Probably, but he is younger and has good speed.

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Post by Dylan1979 on Mon 27 Feb 2017, 10:12 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
BoxingFan88 wrote:I'll say again

He is fighting the guy the fans voted for

It still doesn't make it any good does it.

I would wager if you asked a load of Mexicans who they wanted Alvarez to fight they'd choose Chavez Jnr.

'Real' Mexican fight fans would prefer to see Canela v GGG all day long.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Mon 27 Feb 2017, 10:13 am

Dylan1979 wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
BoxingFan88 wrote:I'll say again

He is fighting the guy the fans voted for

It still doesn't make it any good does it.

I would wager if you asked a load of Mexicans who they wanted Alvarez to fight they'd choose Chavez Jnr.

'Real' Mexican fight fans would prefer to see Canela v GGG all day long.

No they wouldn't.

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Post by Dylan1979 on Mon 27 Feb 2017, 10:21 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Dylan1979 wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
BoxingFan88 wrote:I'll say again

He is fighting the guy the fans voted for

It still doesn't make it any good does it.

I would wager if you asked a load of Mexicans who they wanted Alvarez to fight they'd choose Chavez Jnr.

'Real' Mexican fight fans would prefer to see Canela v GGG all day long.

No they wouldn't.

You think?

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Post by Dylan1979 on Mon 27 Feb 2017, 10:25 am

Dylan1979 wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Dylan1979 wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
BoxingFan88 wrote:I'll say again

He is fighting the guy the fans voted for

It still doesn't make it any good does it.

I would wager if you asked a load of Mexicans who they wanted Alvarez to fight they'd choose Chavez Jnr.

'Real' Mexican fight fans would prefer to see Canela v GGG all day long.

No they wouldn't.

You think?

Nelo's loosing fans everyday due to his blatant ducking of GGG. Hardore Mexican fight fans are starting to call him out. They do pay attention to people like Nacho Beristain who called it for what it is, a bitch move by Nela, not representing the true Mexican warrior spirit.

Some casuals are okay with Nela v Chavez jnr but don't get it twisted.


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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Mon 27 Feb 2017, 12:07 pm

I've not seen any evidence of the sort but hey you never seem to back up your claims with anything substantial so no difference there then.

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Post by hazharrison on Mon 27 Feb 2017, 2:16 pm

Decent enough fight. I don't see much hope for Khan but it will be fun while it lasts.

Brook vs Spence, Thurman vs Garcia and Pacquiao vs Khan is a good look for welterweight. The only other top fighters not yet fixed up are Bradley and Porter.

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Mon 27 Feb 2017, 2:29 pm

hazharrison wrote:Decent enough fight. I don't see much hope for Khan but it will be fun while it lasts.

Brook vs Spence, Thurman vs Garcia and Pacquiao vs Khan is a good look for welterweight. The only other top fighters not yet fixed up are Bradley and Porter.

Is Bradley still alive?

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Post by hazharrison on Mon 27 Feb 2017, 2:31 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:
hazharrison wrote:Decent enough fight. I don't see much hope for Khan but it will be fun while it lasts.

Brook vs Spence, Thurman vs Garcia and Pacquiao vs Khan is a good look for welterweight. The only other top fighters not yet fixed up are Bradley and Porter.

Is Bradley still alive?

He's holed up in a vegan retreat in outer Mongolia...

Last I heard, they were looking at a Jesse Vargas rematch.

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Mon 27 Feb 2017, 3:57 pm

hazharrison wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:
hazharrison wrote:Decent enough fight. I don't see much hope for Khan but it will be fun while it lasts.

Brook vs Spence, Thurman vs Garcia and Pacquiao vs Khan is a good look for welterweight. The only other top fighters not yet fixed up are Bradley and Porter.

Is Bradley still alive?

He's holed up in a vegan retreat in outer Mongolia...

Last I heard, they were looking at a Jesse Vargas rematch.

Seriously?

Bradley won that fight quite comfortably I thought

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Post by milkyboy on Mon 27 Feb 2017, 4:46 pm

...wobbled at the end, in a contentious finish BF.... what more do you need to sell a re-match? Bit of table chucking at a presser and bob's your uncle.

Oh, I was forgetting it's Bradley. Scratch the above. Even his family don't turn up to watch him.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Mon 27 Feb 2017, 10:50 pm

Dylan1979 wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
BoxingFan88 wrote:I'll say again

He is fighting the guy the fans voted for

It still doesn't make it any good does it.

I would wager if you asked a load of Mexicans who they wanted Alvarez to fight they'd choose Chavez Jnr.

'Real' Mexican fight fans would prefer to see Canela v GGG all day long.

They don't want to be greedy.....After all they are being treated to a new wall !!.

Everything else should be a bonus..


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Post by kevchadders on Tue 28 Feb 2017, 1:36 am

With khan's past experience as a long time sparring partner and Manny not quite being the fighter he one was I have a sneaky suspicion that this one could go the full distance.

Khan's CV reminds me of Zab Judah's. Full of top names with far to many loses against it.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Tue 28 Feb 2017, 11:01 am

Khan will be quicker and his jab will be a problem for Manny who is aging....

Less likely to be a one punch blow out too....

60/40 fight for me.....Give Khan a good chance.

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Post by AdamT on Tue 28 Feb 2017, 12:56 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Khan will be quicker and his jab will be a problem for Manny who is aging....

Less likely to be a one punch blow out too....

60/40 fight for me.....Give Khan a good chance.

I agree. I do favour Manny more than 60/40, but you never know. Khan can push him imo.

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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake on Wed 08 Mar 2017, 8:01 am

Fight off apparently...

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Wed 08 Mar 2017, 8:08 am

Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake wrote:Fight off apparently...

Apparently the mystical $38 million doesn't exist =/

Eddie was right, because he LIVES the game he doesn't PLAY it

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Post by Pedro147 on Wed 08 Mar 2017, 9:11 am

Khan apparently wanted Manny's Senate seat and $100m for the fight as he's the main man in boxing.

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