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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 9:45 pm

Anybody watching? Has the 140lbs division become that bad? It's basically Crawford. That's it. Everyone's has moved to 147 and we have Burns as world champ "unifying" against some African gentlemen.....fair play he sparked the Russian....but still...what a poor poor unification this will be

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 9:50 pm

Should be a decent fight irrespective of the titles being on the line.

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 9:55 pm

Fair one. Good first round, indongo is willllddddd but 10-9 for me Indongo

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 9:59 pm

20-18 indongo

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 9:59 pm

20-18 Indongo

Purely on work rate so far, not landing a lot but Burns is barely throwing.

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:04 pm

Yeh same. I'll take it back. This indongo may be wild but he isn't a bad boxer....looks sharp 30-27

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:07 pm

Yeh 40-36 Ricky Burns is either injured or can't be arsed. He is hardly doing anything but run around

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Post by Qoxiivi on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:10 pm

Burns does not look like he wants to be in there.

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:11 pm

Loves a body shot. 50-46 indongo

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Post by AdamT on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:12 pm

Only catching this now. Burns looks out of his depth going by tho round alone.

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Post by EX7EY on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:13 pm

Strange that this is a unification fight. What an empty division.

Had a indongo by ko pre fight, looks like it could come in

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:15 pm

Man....he has a LOT to do here. Lost every single round.

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Post by alanqlm on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:16 pm

Think this could be Ricky's last fight, just looks like he hasn't got it in him any more and nowhere really to go after this.

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Post by AdamT on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:18 pm

He's trying to make a go of it, but he hasn't got it. Indongo looks big and fast. Wild and awkward.

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:20 pm

Yeh. Big fast and wild sums this guy up massively. Only chance is a KO surely,

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Post by AdamT on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:22 pm

Looks a nightmare to fight against. Bull rushing forward isn't the answer. Burns hasn't the skill, at least at this stage of his career.

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:23 pm

End of his career here I feel. Had a great one but he needs to retire after this. That was a bruising round.

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Post by Qoxiivi on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:24 pm

Burns doing NOTHING!

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:25 pm

Burns is done, think he's going to get stopped here.

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Post by AdamT on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:27 pm

Yes he was at a crossroads a couple years back and made another go of it. Burns had a lot of chances, but he's solid guy and made a lot of his own abilities. Has had a very good career, but his time is up.

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Post by EX7EY on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:28 pm

He's still got heart, I'll give him that much

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:28 pm

This is going to be an absolute shutout. Fair play to Indongo. I'll take it back. he looks like a very good fighter.

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Post by Qoxiivi on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:28 pm

Wow, genius, that Ohara Davies.


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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:29 pm

Unlike a lot of guys you can't question his heart nor has he ever shirked a challenge.

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Post by AdamT on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:31 pm

I agree with that assessment. He's always gave it everything and made the most of his abilities. Burns has a great attitude, but he's not at that level. Hope he retires now. Nothing to prove and he isn't going to beat the top guys.

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Post by The Beast on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:32 pm

Skill wise I do not think there is much to chose between them, however Indongo is much much quicker and looks easily two weights above Burns.

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Post by AdamT on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:34 pm

Size and athleticism is enough. Big awkward southpaw. Though Doubt Crawford will be losing any sleep

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Post by Qoxiivi on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:36 pm

Can't believe Indongo is 34... and making weight comfortably at 140 when he's 5ft11ish as well.


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Post by EX7EY on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:38 pm

Sky commentary doing my head in. Just jabbering and talking over each other

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:39 pm

120-108

Very one sided, despite being a unified champion now I doubt Indongo will trouble the top men like Crawford or Postol, would not be surprised to see Matthysse target him on his return.

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Post by EX7EY on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:41 pm

Cue generous scorecards to burns

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Post by Qoxiivi on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:42 pm

They'll give a couple to Burns I reckon.

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Post by Qoxiivi on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:43 pm

116-112!!!!!!!!!!!!! F-me.

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Post by EX7EY on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:44 pm

116-112 on one card, there's always one haha

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Post by EX7EY on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:45 pm

Burns already on about coming again. One of those fighters that doesn't know when to call time, I fear.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:47 pm

EX7EY wrote:Burns already on about coming again. One of those fighters that doesn't know when to call time, I fear.

Don't be surprised to see him fight Davies in a passing of the torch fight.

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:48 pm

Yeh very true. Where on earth did the 116-112 come from?!

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Post by Happytravelling on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 10:53 pm

He's got debts, he'll come again.

Seemed to struggle with the reach. Another counter puncher who struggled to know how to push, when behind. Surely he must have sparred with men with long reach to prepare?

Both looked quite fresh, after 12rds. Which speaks for itself.

Byrne's is very likeable but he had as many duff performances as good.

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Post by hazharrison on Sun 16 Apr 2017, 5:13 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
EX7EY wrote:Burns already on about coming again. One of those fighters that doesn't know when to call time, I fear.

Don't be surprised to see him fight Davies in a passing of the torch fight.

Unlikely considering they're training partners. Far more likely we'll see him pass his torch to Josh Taylor.

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Post by The Beast on Sun 16 Apr 2017, 7:27 am

Credit to Burns for lasting 12 rounds, every punch looked like it hurt, unlike some fighters didn't make any excuses either acknowledging the better fighter. He has come back from previous defeats I cannot see why he should quit after last night, needs to drop down a level but there are good matches for him.

Whilst not suggesting Indongo is going to a necessarily dominate the division he looks to be a tough fight for anyone, long, quick, good feet, can punch, strong and smart enough to hold on the inside. Hearn talking about Crolla moving up to take the fight I can only see that ending with him being stopped possibly pretty painfully.

Good luck to Robbie Barrett a close but imo deserved winner over Scott Cardle who for a fighter with apparently a great skill set gets caught way too often.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Sun 16 Apr 2017, 8:03 am

If Burns looks at Kevin Mitchell types he can appreciate what a great career he has had.

Overachiever for sure and a Scottish Jack in the box Rocky story.

You're a star in Scotland.. There is coaching.....After dinner engagements even opening supermarkets.

Time to enjoy your retirement and look back with pride on a succesful career.

Don't go on too long...Plenty of earning potential outside the ropes.


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Post by melv500 on Sun 16 Apr 2017, 8:04 am

The Beast wrote:Credit to Burns for lasting 12 rounds, every punch looked like it hurt, unlike some fighters didn't make any excuses either acknowledging the better fighter. He has come back from previous defeats I cannot see why he should quit after last night, needs to drop down a level but there are good matches for him.

Whilst not suggesting Indongo is going to a necessarily dominate the division he looks to be a tough fight for anyone, long, quick, good feet, can punch, strong and smart enough to hold on the inside.  Hearn talking about Crolla moving up to take the fight I can only see that ending with him being stopped possibly pretty painfully.

Good luck to Robbie Barrett a close but imo deserved winner over Scott Cardle who for a fighter with apparently a great skill set gets caught way too often.

I actually think Crolla v Burns would be a good fight. Not sure where Burns goes now? He wasn't a puncher at the lower weights so has no power at all now so it's going to be really tough for him to stay on the world scene. For Crolla he came out of two losses for world title fights (the second pretty one sided) jumping straight in for a world title at the weight above I don't think is advisable. So fighting Burns would be a good place to start in my opinion. Both big names in the U.K. So hopefully they'd both get a decent cheque for it. I'd prefer to see Burns retire now though.

Indongo looked decent and very very awkward, chuck in that he's a southpaw too I think he'd be a handful for anyone. He looks beatable but I doubt anyone woukd look great doing so due to his style. Because of that Crolla  should stay well away.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Sun 16 Apr 2017, 8:11 am

Crolla v Burns wouldn't really make sense....A lot of money in purse required for that and both were well beaten losers and it's a 50/50 tough comeback fight.

I'd use Tommy Coyle...He's exciting and he deserves a payday..

Very winnable and a decent SNF..


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Post by melv500 on Sun 16 Apr 2017, 8:15 am

I see what you mean but I was thinking just because Crolla is stepping up. Also seems Burns needs the money so could be a good option and could probably be a headline fight due to the following they have.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Sun 16 Apr 2017, 8:22 am

..I see your point Melv.

Crolla has had two tough fights...The last was a real bruising slog...

Coyle for me is a name. ..Is exciting and a good payday..He will also tell Crolla if he still has it....

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Post by hazharrison on Sun 16 Apr 2017, 9:26 am

Burns has the Taylor fight - that's going to draw in Scotland next year - and light welter is probably the most exciting division in Britain with those two and Davies, Nurse, Catterall, Davies Jr. The Crolla fight would be a good fight, should Crolla move up (he may not bother now Burns has lost his belt).

He'll keep fighting. Depends what he wants to do but I'd say the bigger paydays were domestically now (no-one would pay to see him fight Crawford or Indongo). Unless Eddie can throw some coin at someone like Granados.

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Post by Jermaine2015 on Sun 16 Apr 2017, 10:59 pm

Burns is a bum. His one decent win was against the overrated Rocky Martinez. He stepped up against Crawford, Zlaticacin and Indongo got exposed. Burns relies on hometown advantage and facing stiffs like the mug he beat to win the WBA 140lbs belt. Was hoping Indongo brutally KO'd Burns but now the bum will be back for another run at a paper title

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Post by hazharrison on Mon 17 Apr 2017, 6:26 am

Burns is a dedicated professional, a class act who squeezed every ounce of talent he had out of himself to win various ABC belts. Yes, he wasn't ever "the man" at any of the weights he fought at, but neither were any of the other British "champs" of recent years (save Tyson Fury).

How many of us would have been able to rebound from bankruptcy in our fields (considering the crushing manner that was administered upon him?).

The Martinez win was superb and his wins over Moses and Mitchell were world class performances.

If Burns is a bum, I'd love to see what a hero looks like.

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Post by melv500 on Mon 17 Apr 2017, 7:51 am

Completely agree Haz. A very solid professional and a good world level operator. Just because he wasn't ever the best in his division doesn't make him a Bum. By that logic Froch was a bum too then.

He wasn't brutally KOd by Indongo because he isn't a bum, Jermaine you helped prove our point by saying that Smile.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Mon 17 Apr 2017, 10:53 am

Everyone is a bum according to Jermaine;

Martinez, Katsidis, Mitchell, Moses and Gonzalez is not the win column of a bum, never truly world class but he's had a career 99% of boxers dream about. The gift he got against Beltran gets evened out by the disgraceful refereeing and judging in the Figueroa fight. Di Rocco and Relikh on top of that are solid European level boxers, not world title fight worthy but still a pair of decent wins.

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