1872 Cup decider: Glasgow v Edinburgh 6th May 2017

by TheMildlyFranticLlama Mon 01 May 2017, 2:02 pm

First topic message reminder :

Date: Saturday 6th May
Time: 17:15
Where: Scotstoun Stadium

Unwilling participant: Edinburgh 'Rugby'
Slightly more willing, but frankly still underachieving participant: Glasgow Warriors

Things to play for: 1872 Cup, bragging rights, ability to walk around in public feeling like you can refer to yourself as a rugby player (Edinburgh specific)

Things to look out for (aka the Unicorn awards): a pair of Edinburgh players successfully transferring the ball from one to the other through the medium of 'a completed pass', Duncan Weir looking and playing like a fly half, Edinburgh managing to win 2 matches in a row, a hygienic looking Glasgow fan

I fear my thread may be more towards the FES end of the scale than the GC end. Apologies. Now, discuss.

by **BigGee** Fri 05 May 2017, 12:03 pm

15. Stuart Hogg (99)
14. Tommy Seymour (100)
13. Alex Dunbar (98)
12. Peter Horne (114)
11. Lee Jones (54)
10. Finn Russell (63)
9. Ali Price (41)

1. Gordon Reid (113)
2. Fraser Brown (63)
3. Zander Fagerson (49)
4. Scott Cummings (16)
5. Jonny Gray (72) CAPTAIN
6. Rob Harley (162)
7. Chris Fusaro (125)
8. Matt Fagerson (7)

Replacements:

16. Pat MacArthur (154)
17. Alex Allan (50)
18. Sila Puafisi (43)
19. Tim Swinson (95)
20. Adam Ashe (38)
21. Henry Pyrgos (124)
22. Nick Grigg (20)
23. Sean Lamont (112)

Not available due to injury: Mark Bennett (knee), Simone Favaro (knee), Corey Flynn (head), James Malcom (ankle), D’arcy Rae (ankle), Leonardo Sarto (groin), Josh Strauss (medical), Richie Vernon (achilles) and Ryan Wilson (shoulder).

Toonie certainly not holding back nor showing any sentimentality towards any departing warriors in this selection!

by **RDW** Fri 05 May 2017, 12:07 pm

The difference in quality between the 2 teams is frightening...

Edinburgh team to play Glasgow Warriors at Scotstoun in the Guinness PRO12 tomorrow (Saturday 6 May, kick-off 5.15pm) – live on BBC 2 Scotland

15. Glenn Bryce

14. Damien Hoyland
13. Chris Dean
12. Phil Burleigh
11. Blair Kinghorn

10. Duncan Weir
9. Sam Hidalgo-Clyne

1. Allan Dell
2. Ross Ford
3. Simon Berghan
4. Grant Gilchrist CAPTAIN
5. Ben Toolis
6. Jamie Ritchie
7. John Hardie
8. Cornell du Preez

Replacements

16. Neil Cochrane
17. Murray McCallum
18. Kevin Bryce
19. Fraser McKenzie
20. George Turner
21. Sean Kennedy
22. Junior Rasolea
23. Rory Scholes

by **BigGee** Fri 05 May 2017, 12:08 pm

This could be messy!

by **RDW** Fri 05 May 2017, 12:14 pm

That's got to be one of the worst backlines in the Pro 12.

Why do we have a hooker as back row sub??

by jimbopip Fri 05 May 2017, 12:21 pm

Just one point to make: I considered drawing up a composite side until I saw the line ups. picard

I don't think there's anyone in the Exiliaotors who could scrape into the real rugby team. Toolis/Cummings is debatable. But only for politeness' sake.

Another point: apart from Nick Grigg's On Fire and Sila Puafisi all the others are Scottish. Is the next Scotland coach making some kind of subtle, subliminal point here? Hero

Yet another point: who is this Schizoid person who speaks so calmly and wisely? he reminds me of someone; I'm sure if you re-arrange the letters in his final sentence it says, "I love the smell of napalm in the morning. It reminds me of....Govan." oh yeah

by jimbopip Fri 05 May 2017, 12:22 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:That's got to be one of the worst backlines in the Pro 12.

Why do we have a hooker as back row sub??

Because Michael Allan refused to play there. laughing

by MacKnocked-on Fri 05 May 2017, 12:29 pm

jimbopip wrote:Just one point to make: I considered drawing up a composite side until I saw the line ups. I don't think there's anyone in the Exiliaotors who could scrape into the real rugby team. Toolis/Cummings is debatable. But only for politeness' sake.

Another point: apart from Nick Grigg's On Fire and Sila Puafisi all the others are Scottish. Is the next Scotland coach making some kind of subtle, subliminal point here?
Yet another point: who is this Schizoid person who speaks so calmly and wisely? he reminds me of someone; I'm sure if you re-arrange the letters in his final sentence it says, "I love the smell of napalm in the morning. It reminds me of....Govan."

That's a bit extreme, surely Hardie is a far superior player to Fusaro and a few other Edinburgh forwards are probably equal at least to their Glasgow rivals. The backs on the other hand...

by **RDW** Fri 05 May 2017, 12:30 pm

A sensible combined 15 would have Toolis, Hardie and CDP in it but that's it.

by jimbopip Fri 05 May 2017, 12:32 pm

Ah right y'are Ted, Hardie is there. I couldn't see him. Drowning as he is in a sea of mediocrity. For the ten minutes he will be on he will tackle everything that moves (so Meatball should be safe) until he knocks himself out and leaves for his pre-scheduled HIA.

by jimbopip Fri 05 May 2017, 12:35 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:A sensible combined 15 would have Toolis, Hardie and CDP in it but that's it.

Sensible? You want sensible? Are you trying to scare Schiz off again?

Toolis... I did mention.

Hardie... see my comment above.

CDP...GTF , on his form this season if he stood behind yon Kardashian lassie you wouldn't be able to tell where one giant arse ended and the other began. Erm

by MacKnocked-on Fri 05 May 2017, 12:37 pm

What about the match up between Lion Tommy Seymour and Kinghorn (his first game on the wing?)...

by **RDW** Fri 05 May 2017, 12:40 pm

MacKnocked-on wrote:What about the match up between Lion Tommy Seymour and Kinghorn (his first game on the wing?)...

I wonder if Kinghorn is being tried there looking towards the summer tour - Rory Scholes is on the bench FFS

by MacKnocked-on Fri 05 May 2017, 12:42 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
MacKnocked-on wrote:What about the match up between Lion Tommy Seymour and Kinghorn (his first game on the wing?)...

I wonder if Kinghorn is being tried there looking towards the summer tour - Rory Scholes is on the bench FFS

Or perhaps Hodge didn't anticipate Townsend picking his Lions...

by EWT Spoons Fri 05 May 2017, 12:46 pm

MacKnocked-on wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
MacKnocked-on wrote:What about the match up between Lion Tommy Seymour and Kinghorn (his first game on the wing?)...

I wonder if Kinghorn is being tried there looking towards the summer tour - Rory Scholes is on the bench FFS

Or perhaps Hodge didn't anticipate Townsend picking his Lions...

or perhaps Hodge has no idea what he's doing...

by demosthenes Fri 05 May 2017, 12:53 pm

jimbopip wrote:Just one point to make: I considered drawing up a composite side until I saw the line ups. I don't think there's anyone in the Exiliaotors who could scrape into the real rugby team. Toolis/Cummings is debatable. But only for politeness' sake.

Another point: apart from Nick Grigg's On Fire and Sila Puafisi all the others are Scottish. Is the next Scotland coach making some kind of subtle, subliminal point here?
Yet another point: who is this Schizoid person who speaks so calmly and wisely? he reminds me of someone; I'm sure if you re-arrange the letters in his final sentence it says, "I love the smell of napalm in the morning. It reminds me of....Govan."

I think you will find that Nick Grigg is SQ - both grandparent rule and playing for national 7's team. OK, source is Wiki, but I don't think they are wrong.

by jimbopip Fri 05 May 2017, 1:32 pm

I think you are correct, Demosthenes, which further reinforces my point that the Toonmeister is, possibly, using the match to signal his intent as Scotland coach.

by **RDW** Fri 05 May 2017, 1:33 pm

jimbopip wrote:I think you are correct, Demosthenes, which further reinforces my point that the Toonmeister is, possibly, using the match to signal his intent as Scotland coach.

Um, to pick Scottish players?

by TheMildlyFranticLlama Fri 05 May 2017, 1:37 pm

by jimbopip Fri 05 May 2017, 1:44 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
jimbopip wrote:I think you are correct, Demosthenes, which further reinforces my point that the Toonmeister is, possibly, using the match to signal his intent as Scotland coach.

Um, to pick the best available, which means Glasgow based, Scottish players?

Quote function! Ya baasss! oh yeah

by IanBru Fri 05 May 2017, 1:47 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
jimbopip wrote:I think you are correct, Demosthenes, which further reinforces my point that the Toonmeister is, possibly, using the match to signal his intent as Scotland coach.

Um, to pick Scottish players?

1872 Cup decider: Glasgow v Edinburgh 6th May 2017 - Page 2 K7lgl

by **RDW** Fri 05 May 2017, 1:48 pm

IanBru wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
jimbopip wrote:I think you are correct, Demosthenes, which further reinforces my point that the Toonmeister is, possibly, using the match to signal his intent as Scotland coach.

Um, to pick Scottish players?

by 21st Century Schizoid Man Fri 05 May 2017, 3:02 pm

MacKnocked-on wrote:
jimbopip wrote:Just one point to make: I considered drawing up a composite side until I saw the line ups. I don't think there's anyone in the Exiliaotors who could scrape into the real rugby team. Toolis/Cummings is debatable. But only for politeness' sake.

Another point: apart from Nick Grigg's On Fire and Sila Puafisi all the others are Scottish. Is the next Scotland coach making some kind of subtle, subliminal point here?
Yet another point: who is this Schizoid person who speaks so calmly and wisely? he reminds me of someone; I'm sure if you re-arrange the letters in his final sentence it says, "I love the smell of napalm in the morning. It reminds me of....Govan."

That's a bit extreme, surely Hardie is a far superior player to Fusaro and a few other Edinburgh forwards are probably equal at least to their Glasgow rivals. The backs on the other hand...

That will be why Edinburgh are 30 odd points behind us in the Pro12 I suppose. Well done clap

by tigertattie Fri 05 May 2017, 4:24 pm

aww for crying out loud!!!!

It's bad enough that we've had our worst ever season and now to make matters worse, the schiz is back to rub our noses in it!

He's more one eyed about Glasgow than some of the Welsh are about Wales!

Isn't the second coming of Schiz one of the signs of the apocalypse?
Isn't another sign Jimbo actually managing to use the quote function for once?

Oh well, Welcome back Schiz, I'm off to grab a bible..............

by IanBru Fri 05 May 2017, 4:46 pm

Oh, surely accusing someone of being Welsh is one of the seven deadly sins on 606v2? Wink

Schitz, great to see you bud. I'm away to do some leafleting tomorrow in some, erm... up and coming parts of the Toon.

by **RDW** Sat 06 May 2017, 5:03 pm

Well here goes - if we can put in a reasonable performance and keep it within 20 points I think that's the best we can hope for!

by **RDW** Sat 06 May 2017, 5:18 pm

Not the best of starts!

by tigertattie Sat 06 May 2017, 5:19 pm

Edinburgh walked out to the field and they actually looked scared

by **RDW** Sat 06 May 2017, 5:26 pm

Weir looks terrified

by **RDW** Sat 06 May 2017, 5:32 pm

CALL FULL-TIME NOW

by tigertattie Sat 06 May 2017, 5:33 pm

Hardie is actually quite a dirty player!

by **RDW** Sat 06 May 2017, 5:34 pm

Edinburgh looking far more committed in defence and the rucks.

So far...

by tigertattie Sat 06 May 2017, 5:38 pm

Wee Duncy, what a monkey

by **RDW** Sat 06 May 2017, 5:41 pm

In what universe is that a penalty?!

by **RDW** Sat 06 May 2017, 5:42 pm

That was an awful decision.

This TMO needs to get back in his box!

by **RDW** Sat 06 May 2017, 5:47 pm

How was that a high tackle?!

Adamson having a shocker - he knows this is rugby right?

by tigertattie Sat 06 May 2017, 5:52 pm

Forward pass by a mile

by **RDW** Sat 06 May 2017, 5:53 pm

Neck roll on Toolis missed - where's the TMO this time?

by **RDW** Sat 06 May 2017, 5:56 pm

Edinburgh are actually doing very well - especially given Adamson's extremely soft reffing.

by **RDW** Sat 06 May 2017, 5:58 pm

SHC was cleared out almost instantly - how was that a yellow?

by tigertattie Sat 06 May 2017, 6:01 pm

Flakey Finn butchers a try

by **RDW** Sat 06 May 2017, 6:02 pm

Adamson has had a very poor first half and it's amazing Edinburgh are ahead. I'm sure the great unwashed will disagree though!

by tigertattie Sat 06 May 2017, 6:06 pm

If that was parrise that have that pass the pundits would be creaming themselves. Fair play to young Cummings

by **RDW** Sat 06 May 2017, 6:07 pm

Huge effort from Edinburgh and I suspect they won't be able to keep it up - they'll certainly be very frustrated with some of the ref interpretation.

by **BigGee** Sat 06 May 2017, 6:09 pm

Did Scott Cummings just play himself onto summer tour with that pass!

by **BigGee** Sat 06 May 2017, 6:10 pm

This wind is worth 10 points at least, expect a different second half with very different benches to come on.

by **RDW** Sat 06 May 2017, 6:32 pm

Edinburgh still hanging in there but I suspect all this effort will take its toll soon.

by **RDW** Sat 06 May 2017, 6:36 pm

Credit to chunky Weir his kicking has been fantastic

by **RDW** Sat 06 May 2017, 6:39 pm

So when will Glasgow get a warning for all their yellows?

by **RDW** Sat 06 May 2017, 6:39 pm

What a try - game on!

by tigertattie Sat 06 May 2017, 6:41 pm

What was the TMO even looking for there?

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