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Post by Jermaine2015 on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 4:59 pm

Can't see passed Mikey destroying Broner rather easily. Bout is at light welterweight. I would much rather see Linares Garcia at lightweight.

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/adrien-broner-will-fight-mikey-garcia-at-140lbs/

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 5:42 pm

Garcia against Linares would have been far more interesting a unification fight why didn't that fight come off?

Yet again boxing failing to deliver the fights the fans want to see


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Post by Mr Bounce on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 6:12 pm

Oh I dunno - most boxing fans would like to watch Broner being punched in the face...


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Post by Herman Jaeger on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 6:37 pm

If only they brought back public hangings

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Post by milkyboy on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 7:21 pm

... they never got rid of executions in the states hermy. Though I think you still need to do a little more than just be a Prat to qualify.

But with donny in charge who knows?

As for the fight, I think it's quite interesting myself, but agree I'd rather see Garcia try and unify at lightweight... and it puts some distance between Garcia and lomo.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 7:42 pm

I'm really disappointed Garcia is moving to 140(is it a permanent switch?) already when there are some good fights at 135

Plenty think Easter Jr would be Mikey's stiffest test at lightweight so I'm really disappointed not to be seeing that one too

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Post by TheSquaredCircle on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 8:08 pm

You would think Mikey could potentially destroy broners career here. Let's not forget though that Broner bullied mostsub lightwelter. At welter he could not impose himself on his opponents. The fact that Mikey is climbing up and broner is going to light welter may make this fight interesting?

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 8:30 pm

It's a good fight no doubt about it would like to have seen Garcia fight Easter first that's all. Broner's best weight most people think is at 140

Has it been suggested Garcia was running from Easter? I find that hard to believe personally

Why can't the Easter fight be made though?

Or is Mikey going to come back down after this?

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 8:33 pm

I don't think a Robert Easter fight was on the agenda at all; Linares and Lomachenko were the fights that were being touted.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 8:36 pm

What you talking about after Easter's last performance there were plenty of fans wanting to see Mikey fight him

Broner's a decent operator at 140 though it could be a good fight though I expect Garcia to be too good

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 8:39 pm

Why wasn't the Linares fight made Hammer?

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 8:45 pm

The fight against Comney exposed him to an extent.

I doubt any of them are too eager to fight each other, too much money to be made fighting in house away from each other.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 8:48 pm

Typical of boxing today

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Post by hazharrison on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 9:14 pm

Another quality fighter dragged into a catchweight. Garcia should be too good - he's the better fighter. Whether he's effective at 140, who knows?

While that moves Garcia vs Loma further away, Garcia vs Crawford would be just as mouth-watering.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 9:51 pm

Garcia/Lomachenko looking like it won't ever get made sadly

Mikey always said 140 would be the maximum he'll ever fight at. It might just turn out to be his optimum weight. Could see him settling here for a few years then perhaps a move to welter to see out his career

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Post by quentins_monkey on Thu 01 Jun 2017, 11:26 pm

Actually looking forward to this fight - broner is still undefeated below 140 - whether he actually makes weight is a different matter altogether as he looks pretty big in recent photos.

Can't really see past a Garcia win in this one - always really rated the kid and thought it was a shame he was inactive for so long. Hopefully he looks impressive and then goes after more high profile fights - if he looks good at 140 I'd definitely love to see him in with Crawford...

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 7:03 am

Yeah Mikey against Terence wouldn't need a lot of promotion would it that's real quality and a chance for Garcia to get revenge from the amateurs

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 7:59 am

Bit gutted Mikey didn't make himself number one at 135 first

But its on PPV so he probably couldn't turn it down

Guess it all depends on whether he can be effective at 140

Will Top Rank let him have a go at Crawford after this or will that be a big nono as he left Top Rank under bad circumstances?

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 8:19 am

Don't quote me on this but I think Bob said he wouldn't have a problem with working again with Garcia water under the bridge hold no grudges if it makes sense etc etc

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Post by Baby faced assassin on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 9:58 am

Just checked but Easter Jr is booked with a fight against Shafikov on 30th June so I'm sure that's why he wasn't being touted.

Also if reports are to believed Lomachenko is close to agreeing a fight with Salido. Those fights can still happen, Mikey may be going up to 140 but he himself said after this fight was announced that he is a lightweight

I actually think this is an awesome fight. Broner hasn't reached his potential but you look at the guys he's lost against, Porter and Maidana, they are high volume guys with big power and naturally a lot bigger and stronger than Broner. It's also worth mentioning as well as being strong welterweights they are both very good fighters. Those that think he'll be wiped out as well garcia can't pop like those 2 and Broner showed guts in those fights.

Garcia is the obvious favourite but Broner is the larger guy with the bigger power. Also correct me if i'm wrong but Mikey has never been in with someone like Broner and more specifically a guy with hands as fast as Broners. Garcias best wins are against Lopez, Salido, Conception, Zlaticanin, burgos and Remillard all good fighters but aggressive ones who aren't known for their handspeed or boxing ability.

I love this fight think it'll be a great clash of styles will Garcia time Broner or will Broner be too quick!! Love it

Crawford is perhaps a bit to big for Garcia imo although he'll be competitive so I'd prefer him  to go back to 135 win or lose to go after Linares and Loma
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Post by Herman Jaeger on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 10:10 am

I think Broner might have the fastest hands of anyone Garcia has yet faced. Broner has heart too

Good to see Garcia confirm he thinks he's best at lightweight at the moment(I agree) so that means this is just a one off for now and we'll see him have a run at lightweight where there are a few good fights

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 10:54 am

Broner is stong too but Brandon Rios who's done a lot of sparring with both of them reckons Mikey hits harder than Maidana:

https://youtu.be/xZFx_5DTfnE

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 3:33 pm

Wow that is interesting

We all know Mikey can wack, but to hit harder than Maidana

He is very technically sound as well

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Post by Baby faced assassin on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 3:41 pm

He also says that Mikey hits harder than Canelo so gonna take what he says with a pinch of salt....

Sure he hits like a mule but he's only had 2 fights above 130

Interested to see if his power is all that as Broner can pop himself and Garcia has gone down (although never really in trouble)
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Post by Herman Jaeger on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 6:08 pm

This is the interesting question about the fight has Mikey got elite power at 140

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Post by TheSquaredCircle on Fri 02 Jun 2017, 8:20 pm

I think the clincher has got to be how seriously broner takes this fight. If he thinks he can lay back and feast on buffalo wings and maybe train a bit with a view to steamrollering Garcia the he might be in for a ruder awakening than his experience with maidana.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Sat 03 Jun 2017, 6:36 am

I think Broner's going to get in shape for this one it's ppv so he going to want to respect the promotion to maximise buys plus there are penalties in the contract

Also his ego will be saying to itself I'm still undefeated at or below 140 so this could fuel him I think he'll be right up for this one it's a really good fight and he knows a win would regenerate his career and some

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Post by TheSquaredCircle on Sun 04 Jun 2017, 4:53 pm

Kell just about managed to get down from 154-160 to 147 in 10 mths. Broner has two months to go from 160 to 140!

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Fri 21 Jul 2017, 3:15 pm

Mikey-  'when we were at the press conference he was being a little too friendly and we ain't friends':

http://www.boxingscene.com/adrien-broner-on-mikey-garcia-im-coming-f-him-up--118708

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Post by wheelchair1991 on Fri 21 Jul 2017, 9:25 pm

Hope Garcia wins this big

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Sat 22 Jul 2017, 9:54 am

Broner I think sees this as his defining fight to date so a loss here would surely end his dreams of ppv stardom

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Sun 23 Jul 2017, 7:23 pm

If Garcia wins next Saturday and Crawford beats Namibia's Julius Indongo next month then a fight against Crawford would be bigger for Mikey than going back down to 135 for a unification fight. Crawford against Garcia that would be a big fight atmosphere:

http://www.boxingscene.com/garcia-open-staying-140-moving-up-147-broner--118765

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Post by wheelchair1991 on Mon 24 Jul 2017, 7:53 am

Herman Jaeger wrote:If Garcia wins next Saturday and Crawford beats Namibia's Julius Indongo next month then a fight against Crawford would be bigger for Mikey than going back down to 135 for a unification fight. Crawford against Garcia that would be a big fight atmosphere:

http://www.boxingscene.com/garcia-open-staying-140-moving-up-147-broner--118765

I'd love that fight

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Mon 24 Jul 2017, 2:12 pm

Reckon Broner will use the dead at the weight excuse after this one but 'i'm still a ppv fighter man and i'm going to show you'all that at147 Adrian Broner IS boxing'

Not elite at 40 not elite at 47 what's he going to do?

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Post by TheSquaredCircle on Mon 24 Jul 2017, 2:39 pm

He is unlikely to be elite at 147 as his natural trained weight is around 135-140. He walks around 170 due to wings and fries. He was dominant massively at the lower weight so I don't see why he could not do well at 140 on the proviso that he lives the life.

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Mon 24 Jul 2017, 3:02 pm

Who's he beaten at 140 or below? I mean who's he really beaten?

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Post by TheSquaredCircle on Mon 24 Jul 2017, 5:48 pm

Back when he fought smaller guys, ponce de Leon, demarco, molina he overpowered them. Granted they are not really stand out names but he showed some glimmer of talent in those. Unfortunately his work ethic didn't quite allow him to stick around at the weight long enough to show us progression.

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Post by wheelchair1991 on Mon 24 Jul 2017, 6:32 pm

Broner will never fulfill his talent

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Mon 24 Jul 2017, 8:17 pm

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Thu 27 Jul 2017, 7:58 am

Mikey looks a bit meaty for this one...

He is more skilled, but he might not be able to handle the size

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Thu 27 Jul 2017, 9:40 am

I agree with Robert Garcia, I've also sensed Arum will only let Lomachenko move to 135 once he's certain Mikey's not coming back down:

http://www.boxingscene.com/robert-garcia-arum-never-let-lomachenko-fight-mikey--118879

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Thu 27 Jul 2017, 1:31 pm

BoxingFan88 wrote:Mikey looks a bit meaty for this one...

He is more skilled, but he might not be able to handle the size


You can get 5/2 Broner, are you backing him?

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Fri 28 Jul 2017, 8:49 am

Herman Jaeger wrote:
BoxingFan88 wrote:Mikey looks a bit meaty for this one...

He is more skilled, but he might not be able to handle the size


You can get 5/2 Broner, are you backing him?

Nah man, been a Mikey fan for ages and ages

I'm not backing against him

I'm picking Mikey to put on a show

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Fri 28 Jul 2017, 11:00 am

Mikey rock solid at 5/2 on, Broner in to 2/1

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Fri 28 Jul 2017, 11:28 pm

Ain't Broner calling Mikey Garcia a 'HI EVERYONE I'M RACIST' at the weigh-in racist?

I'd like to see it looked into. I'd like to see Broner heavily fined and license suspended. It needs to be stamped out can't call a member of a different race that word it works both ways

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Post by wheelchair1991 on Sun 30 Jul 2017, 10:29 am

Broner totally dominated

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Post by BoxingFan88 on Sun 30 Jul 2017, 11:44 am

Mikey is a special fighter

Won that with some to spare

He didn't even get out of second gear

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Post by Herman Jaeger on Sun 30 Jul 2017, 1:42 pm

Broner's still a very good fighter and will win another title no question but why wasn't he aggressive more often in the fight? Looked much better when taking the fight to Garcia

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Post by TheSquaredCircle on Sun 30 Jul 2017, 2:14 pm

Bit gunshy after the maidana beating perhaps or just that his values have changed I.e Father Time.

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Post by wheelchair1991 on Sun 30 Jul 2017, 3:27 pm

BoxingFan88 wrote:Mikey is a special fighter

Won that with some to spare

He didn't even get out of second gear

I agree with that, I'd love Garcia to fight Crawford(if he beats Indongo) or Jorge Linares(if Garcia goes back down to 135lb). As Linares is fighting on 23rd September I think the Crawford fight is more likely

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