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Post by George Carlin Sun 11 Jun - 18:05

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AUSTRALIA SCOTLAND  
17 June 2017
15:00 AEST (UTC+10)
Allianz Stadium, Sydney

Live on Sky

Referee: Wayne Barnes (England)
ARs: [tbc]
TMO: [tbc]

A. Head to Head

30 Played 30
21 Won 9
0 Drawn 0
9 Lost 21
729 Points 386 

B. Recent Form

12 November 2016
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
22 – 23 to Australia

18 October 2015 
Twickenham
35-34 to Australia

23 November 2013
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
15 – 21 to Australia

5 June 2012
Hunter Stadium, Newcastle
6 – 9 to Scotland

21 November 2009
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
9 – 8 to Scotland

C. TEAMS:

AUSTRALIA
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Israel Folau; Dane Haylett-Petty, Tevita Kuridrani, Karmichael Hunt, Eto Nabuli; Bernard Foley, Will Genia; Tom Robertson, Tatafu Polota-Nau, Allan Alaalatoa; Sam Carter, Adam Coleman; Ned Hanigan, Michael Hooper (capt), Scott Higginbotham.

Bench to be announced.

SCOTLAND 
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Greig Tonks; Lee Jones, Alex Dunbar, Duncan Taylor, Rory Hughes; Finn Russell, Ali Price; Gordon Reid, Fraser Brown, Zander Fagerson; Ben Toolis, Jonny Gray; John Barclay (capt), Hamish Watson, Ryan Wilson.

Replacements: Ross Ford, Allan Dell, WP Nel, Tim Swinson, Josh Strauss, Henry Pyrgos, Ruaridh Jackson, Matt Scott.


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Post by RDW Sat 17 Jun - 16:55

We can't go through this a 3rd time - we can't!!

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Post by eirebilly Sat 17 Jun - 16:56

Believe Scotland, believe
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Post by RDW Sat 17 Jun - 16:57

That's where we miss Hogg - needed that to Ho to half way

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Sat 17 Jun - 16:57

Key turnover penalty from Dell!
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Post by RDW Sat 17 Jun - 16:58

Tonks kick had to go out.

We've been here before - don't mess up!!!

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Post by eirebilly Sat 17 Jun - 17:00

Terrible from Scotland... That had to be kept.
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Post by TightHEAD Sat 17 Jun - 17:00

What a performance from the Scots, enjoy it lads.

Gatland won't take any notice though.! What a Kumquat he is.
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Post by eirebilly Sat 17 Jun - 17:00

They have it now. Well done Scotland clap
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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Sat 17 Jun - 17:02

4th in the rankings!!!!!!
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Post by eirebilly Sat 17 Jun - 17:02

Enjoy the day Scottish fans, it was well worth getting up early to watch yiz today.

Russell defo MOTM.
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Post by GunsGermsV2 Sat 17 Jun - 17:02

Gooooo Scotland

Epic Finn Russell

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Post by Scottrf Sat 17 Jun - 17:02

What a win! Congrats guys!

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Post by RDW Sat 17 Jun - 17:02

Yeeeeeeeeees!!!!

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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try Sat 17 Jun - 17:02

YA BEAUTY!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 17 Jun - 17:02

Dan Biggar over Find Russell is so many lols.

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Sat 17 Jun - 17:03

That was so worth getting up for!!!!

Finn Russell the best fly half at the Lions disposal.
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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 17 Jun - 17:03

Well done Scotland

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 17 Jun - 17:03

I guess it's a long flight from aus to NZ
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Post by eirebilly Sat 17 Jun - 17:04

Actually a very complete performance. Solid in defence and showed great attacking lines and pressured the Aussies into mistakes.

Poor from the Aussies to not take the points when they were on offer with more than enough time left though. Seriously underestimated the Scottish defence.
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sat 17 Jun - 17:05

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:That was so worth getting up for!!!!

Finn Russell the best fly half at the Lions disposal.

His performance today and Ford's last weekend highlight exactly what the Lions are missing.

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Post by RDW Sat 17 Jun - 17:06

Looking forward to seeing the first half tries!

Got to say Australia really were poor - terrible kicking and why didn't they go for points?

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Post by Taylorman Sat 17 Jun - 17:06

Well done Scotland, suppose there are some pluses from not getting too many Lions. Nice!

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Post by BigGee Sat 17 Jun - 17:07

What about that then!

Watching Australia waste their chances at the end reminded me of how Scotland used to play, not any more!

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 17 Jun - 17:21

Yay!! Very Happy

Fine performance from Scotland. Defensively in the second half they were terrific, considering how much possession Australia had. Watson and Barclay were excellent at the breakdown.

Russell clap clap just adds so much to the attack of any team. Biggar ahead of him (and Ford) makes less and less sense as the weeks go by.

The Toonie Tombola worked Very Happy. Thought Tonks was solid enough, don't think he can get too much blame for the Folau try, though maybe should have got off the ground a bit earlier to disrupt. Obviously a bit of a makeshift at full back, but did his job today IMO. Jones played a key part in the Watson try (which was a lovely team effort) too. But basically everyone put in a pretty good shift. For me MOM would be between Barclay, Watson and Russell.

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Post by carpet baboon Sat 17 Jun - 17:24

Frickin well done Scotland.
Who got mom ?

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Congrats Scotland!

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Post by R!skysports Sat 17 Jun - 17:42

I think we are now 4th in the world now

And it was not raining a monsoon

Fantastic performance

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Post by GunsGermsV2 Sat 17 Jun - 17:45

Taylorman wrote:Well done Scotland, suppose there are some pluses from not getting too many Lions. Nice!

Well 3 of their best players were with the Lions including their captain and they still won in Sydney.

Take Folau and a couple of Australias top players out of their team and they would probably struggle

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Post by RDW Sat 17 Jun - 17:48

We were without Dickinson, R Gray, Laidlaw, Huw Jones, Mark Bennett, Tim Visser,Tommy Seymour, Sean Maitland and Stuart Hogg - all who would likely be in the 23.

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 17 Jun - 17:53

There is a rumour going about that Dell Erm and Russell are getting a Lions call up

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Post by jimbopip Sat 17 Jun - 17:54

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Where,oh where can we see this?

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Tombola roolz ya bass. Braveheart Braveheart Braveheart Braveheart

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Post by jimbopip Sat 17 Jun - 17:57

RDW_Scotland wrote:We were without Dickinson, R Gray, Laidlaw, Huw Jones, Mark Bennett, Tim Visser,Tommy Seymour, Sean Maitland and Stuart Hogg - all who would likely be in the 23.

Ah, RDW my amigo Hug , that's the Luvvie in you speaking. They are in our best 23 so most coaches would select them in our 23. But we are now in the age of The Magic Tombola. Strap yourself in it's going to be a bumpy ride.


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Post by cakeordeath Sat 17 Jun - 17:59

Ryan Wilson would start a fight in an empty kebab shop. Strauss made a difference when he came on.


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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 17 Jun - 18:00

clap clap clap Some of these players should have been called up days ago, but it's probably too late now. Want some advice? Keep playing for yourselves! Great result and great start to life under Townsend. It will be interesting to see if this carries on into next season.

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Post by BigGee Sat 17 Jun - 18:02

We probably need to give Greg Tonks a bit of a shout out. He certainly confounded critics and had a very decent game including a very good assist in the Watson try.

I think Folou would have scored that try against just about anyone in the world, so I am not going to be to hard on him about that.

Tonks, Jones and Hughes all did ok in fact, defensively very solid. None of them are going to be regular starters but showed that they can step in when needed.

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Post by TJ Sat 17 Jun - 18:17

top performance all round and yes Tonks deserves a mention for being pretty solid most of the game

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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try Sat 17 Jun - 18:18

http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/16057/10918169/lions-call-up-kristian-dacey-gareth-davies-cory-hill-and-tomas-francis

A further announcement is expected this weekend with Scotland duo Allan Dell and Finn Russell due to fly in to join the squad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/40310086
Scotland, meanwhile, are in Sydney to face Australia on Saturday and prop Allan Dell and fly-half Finn Russell are set to be added to the Lions squad following that game.
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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Sat 17 Jun - 18:21

A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/16057/10918169/lions-call-up-kristian-dacey-gareth-davies-cory-hill-and-tomas-francis

A further announcement is expected this weekend with Scotland duo Allan Dell and Finn Russell due to fly in to join the squad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/40310086
Scotland, meanwhile, are in Sydney to face Australia on Saturday and prop Allan Dell and fly-half Finn Russell are set to be added to the Lions squad following that game.


I'd tell Gatland to do one. Get some of the Wales tourists to hold bloody tackle bags.

Both should travel to Fiji and help make it a 3 out of 3 tour.
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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try Sat 17 Jun - 18:29

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/16057/10918169/lions-call-up-kristian-dacey-gareth-davies-cory-hill-and-tomas-francis

A further announcement is expected this weekend with Scotland duo Allan Dell and Finn Russell due to fly in to join the squad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/40310086
Scotland, meanwhile, are in Sydney to face Australia on Saturday and prop Allan Dell and fly-half Finn Russell are set to be added to the Lions squad following that game.


I'd tell Gatland to do one. Get some of the Wales tourists to hold bloody tackle bags.

Both should travel to Fiji and help make it a 3 out of 3 tour.

All four of the welsh boys called up are good club players at best, which is what i find most confusing, they're not proven at test level (a weak win over Tonga does not count). Hopefully holding tackle bags is all they'll be doing.
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 17 Jun - 18:30

Dell being called up to the Lions Laugh

No really, I like the guy, and he's a fine servant to Scottish rugby, but not sure about this one. I suppose he's at least as deserving as Davey or Hill though...

Russell's call-up would be well deserved, and long overdue. He's created/scored more tries in two games than the Lions have scored throughout the tour so far.

I suppose from a Scotland viewpoint it's better for him to be going after the Aus game rather than the Fiji one, but it would still be a shame to lose him if all he's doing is holding tackle bags and bench warming in mid-week games. Can't see Gats ever picking him in a Test 23...

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 17 Jun - 18:41

A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:
RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/16057/10918169/lions-call-up-kristian-dacey-gareth-davies-cory-hill-and-tomas-francis

A further announcement is expected this weekend with Scotland duo Allan Dell and Finn Russell due to fly in to join the squad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/40310086
Scotland, meanwhile, are in Sydney to face Australia on Saturday and prop Allan Dell and fly-half Finn Russell are set to be added to the Lions squad following that game.


I'd tell Gatland to do one. Get some of the Wales tourists to hold bloody tackle bags.

Both should travel to Fiji and help make it a 3 out of 3 tour.

All four of the welsh boys called up are good club players at best, which is what i find most confusing, they're not proven at test level (a weak win over Tonga does not count). Hopefully holding tackle bags is all they'll be doing.

Wrong. Two of them might be club players at best, but have a long way to go in their international career, whilst the other two are proven internationals. I think Gats has lost the plot calling these up but you sound unbelievably bitter with this comment, the usual we've come to expect.

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Post by BigGee Sat 17 Jun - 18:46

mikey_dragon wrote:
A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:
RuggerRadge2611 wrote:
A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/16057/10918169/lions-call-up-kristian-dacey-gareth-davies-cory-hill-and-tomas-francis

A further announcement is expected this weekend with Scotland duo Allan Dell and Finn Russell due to fly in to join the squad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/40310086
Scotland, meanwhile, are in Sydney to face Australia on Saturday and prop Allan Dell and fly-half Finn Russell are set to be added to the Lions squad following that game.


I'd tell Gatland to do one. Get some of the Wales tourists to hold bloody tackle bags.

Both should travel to Fiji and help make it a 3 out of 3 tour.

All four of the welsh boys called up are good club players at best, which is what i find most confusing, they're not proven at test level (a weak win over Tonga does not count). Hopefully holding tackle bags is all they'll be doing.

Wrong. Two of them might be club players at best, but have a long way to go in their international career, whilst the other two are proven internationals. I think Gats has lost the plot calling these up but you sound unbelievably bitter with this comment, the usual we've come to expect.

A bit like the selections we have come to expect!

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 17 Jun - 18:49

BigGee wrote:
A bit like the selections we have come to expect!

Yeah, true. I would have called in more Scots but probably before the Aus game.

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Sat 17 Jun - 19:00

I get that Gatland needs to bring in some reinforcements. However if there is no chance they can force their way into the tests what's the point?

Corbs in 2013, Croft in 2009 and Ryan Jones in 2005. Lions who came in as injuries mounted and made a difference.
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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 17 Jun - 19:05

Well Russell might feel he has a chance to prove his worth and at least get on the bench for one of the tests. The term cannon fodder springs to mind with some of the Wales boys as they won't make the test team.

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Post by TJ Sat 17 Jun - 19:12

Russell will not be given a bench place for the tests. That would mean Gatland accepting he was wrong.

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Post by jimbopip Sat 17 Jun - 19:18

Lads, let's not get derailed here.
Scotland, without seven or eight first team players, beat the Criminal Element in Sydney.
I didn't see it so can someone give me some details

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Post by BigGee Sat 17 Jun - 19:24

jimbopip wrote:Lads, let's not get derailed here.
Scotland, without seven or eight first team players, beat the Criminal Element in Sydney.
I didn't see it so can someone give me some details

Austalia did play like they had met in the bar just before the game but great credit to Scotland for a ferocious defence, especially in the 2nd half which pressured Australia into many mistakes and taking their tries very well, including an end of the earth special that only existed in the minds eye of FR when it was conceived.

Another veryclose again between these to rivals, but you could not say we were not worth the win.

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Sat 17 Jun - 19:26

jimbopip wrote:Lads, let's not get derailed here.
Scotland, without seven or eight first team players, beat the Criminal Element in Sydney.
I didn't see it so can someone give me some details

Barclay and the Mish absolutely bossed the breakdown.
Russell ran a masterclass at 10. Kicked well, defensively very solid, and ran some amazing lines.
Taylor and Dunbar formed a very effective partnership.
The back 3, lacking test match experience played well. Hughes was quiet but showed up when necessary, Lee Jones was a critical player in the Mish's try.
Tonks had a solid game, however he had a tough time against Folou in the air, but he (Folou) was unplayable for large swathes of the first half.

My man of the match Finn Russell. Followed by a couple toss between Watson, Hooper and Barclay.
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Post by tigertattie Sat 17 Jun - 19:28

Well.

The tombola wins again.

4th in the world.

Shows what we all know eh!
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