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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 19 Jun 2017, 1:58 pm

....I'm going to be doing a series of blogs looking at options for England going into the 2019 world cup, mainly potential youngsters who could step up.....

First blog is on the seam bowling department

https://5nerdsgo.wordpress.com/2017/06/16/english-one-day-cricket-the-seam-bowling-future/

If you have any thoughts or wanna debate, let's do so

Spin bowling coming soon...
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Post by guildfordbat Mon 19 Jun 2017, 8:07 pm

Good blog, Olly.

Some quick initial thoughts:

* Haven't seen Garton and know little about him but do wonder how easy he'll find it to get anything like a regular place in a Sussex squad overflowing with seamers.

* Helm looks sharpish and has won the support of many Middlesex supporters who favour him over Finn. A few more runs with the bat would probably help his international chances.

* Sam Curran has potential and youth on his side. However, they won't last indefinitely. I'm sure he'll get an England call up but he will need to bring greater consistency to his game to establish himself as a regular.

* Overton and his twin seem to have been around for a long time but are only in their early 20s. Could still make the breakthrough. Perhaps I'm confusing him with his brother but doesn't he have a dodgy injury record?

* Thoughts about Tom Curran's bowling are similar to those I had about Woakes a few years back. He's reliable and doesn't duck responsibility (plenty of death overs) but his pace seems a bit low to trouble the best at the top level. He'll need to up that (as Woakes has done) or work hard to further improve his accuracy and variations.

Others who might be in with a shout come 2019:

* Ben Coad of Yorks. From the very little I've seen of him, I struggled to spot anything special. However, if he continues taking wickets the way he has so far this season, he must be knocking on the door at some time.

* Jamie Porter of Essex. Schoolboy like run up (speeds up and then slows down before delivery) but highly regarded at his county and a major reason why they haven't suffered as many predicted following the double retirement of Masters and Napier.

* Jade Dernbach of Surrey. It would be a bold move to recall him but he's a better bowler and more mature individual than when he last played for England. Just check out some of his RL 50 performances this season. He'll be 33 in 2019, a long way from the first flush of youth but not necessarily ready for the knackers yard. Never say never.

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Post by jimbohammers Tue 20 Jun 2017, 12:16 am

Nice piece, Olly. Guildford, agree on Coad. He doesn't seem anything special but takes a lot of wickets. Not a bad thing!

One name i will mention is Josh Tongue at Worcestershire. Bowls up at 90mph and is only 19 years old. One to watch maybe..

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Post by guildfordbat Thu 22 Jun 2017, 8:33 am

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:....I'm going to be doing a series of blogs looking at options for England going into the 2019 world cup, mainly potential youngsters who could step up.....

First blog is on the seam bowling department

https://5nerdsgo.wordpress.com/2017/06/16/english-one-day-cricket-the-seam-bowling-future/

If you have any thoughts or wanna debate, let's do so

Spin bowling coming soon...

Olly - I've handed in my homework. With you for any debate. Wink

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Post by Gooseberry Thu 22 Jun 2017, 9:10 am

Any outside chance of Mills getting fit enough for the 10 over game?
I guess his latest injury made that even less likely.

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Post by guildfordbat Thu 22 Jun 2017, 3:24 pm

Several of the seamers mentioned above playing in the Lions' current first class match. Different format obviously to the World Cup but it'll still be interesting to see how they get on.

Sam Curran pulled out of the attack after his 4 opening overs go wicketless and cost 25. I'm not as convinced by him as some.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 22 Jun 2017, 7:30 pm

guildfordbat wrote:Good blog, Olly.

Some quick initial thoughts:

* Haven't seen Garton and know little about him but do wonder how easy he'll find it to get anything like a regular place in a Sussex squad overflowing with seamers.

* Helm looks sharpish and has won the support of many Middlesex supporters who favour him over Finn. A few more runs with the bat would probably help his international chances.

* Sam Curran has potential and youth on his side. However, they won't last indefinitely. I'm sure he'll get an England call up but he will need to bring greater consistency to his game to establish himself as a regular.

* Overton and his twin seem to have been around for a long time but are only in their early 20s. Could still make the breakthrough. Perhaps I'm confusing him with his brother but doesn't he have a dodgy injury record?

* Thoughts about Tom Curran's bowling are similar to those I had about Woakes a few years back. He's reliable and doesn't duck responsibility (plenty of death overs) but his pace seems a bit low to trouble the best at the top level. He'll need to up that (as Woakes has done) or work hard to further improve his accuracy and variations.

Others who might be in with a shout come 2019:

* Ben Coad of Yorks. From the very little I've seen of him, I struggled to spot anything special. However, if he continues taking wickets the way he has so far this season, he must be knocking on the door at some time.

* Jamie Porter of Essex. Schoolboy like run up (speeds up and then slows down before delivery) but highly regarded at his county and a major reason why they haven't suffered as many predicted following the double retirement of Masters and Napier.

* Jade Dernbach of Surrey. It would be a bold move to recall him but he's a better bowler and more mature individual than when he last played for England. Just check out some of his RL 50 performances this season. He'll be 33 in 2019, a long way from the first flush of youth but not necessarily ready for the knackers yard. Never say never.

I believe it is Jamie who has the dodgy injury record of the two Overtons Guildford - I did consider putting Dernbach in, hes had a renaissance at Surrey recently, but I struggle to see England picking him again. He wasn't the most liked member of the squad from what I've heard alongside his poor record...

Porter is a good shout - I'm going to Essex vs Somerset on bank holiday August monday - so will hopefully get a closer look there.

Jimbo - fellow poster Mat ridiculed me on Facebook for not mentioning Tongue - must admit I haven't seen much until the RLODC match against Surrey and was surprised by his pace and he looked to have a very strong action. One to watch for sure and a good shout

Goose - I didn't consider Mills because of his injury record. A shame because he is very talented, but I think he'll struggle to be a T20 specialist with his injuries, let alone play 50 over games
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Post by guildfordbat Fri 23 Jun 2017, 8:39 am

Porter was the leading Lions bowler yesterday taking 3 of South Africa A's 7 wickets that fell. 3/41 off 16.

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Post by guildfordbat Sat 08 Jul 2017, 12:01 pm

Tom Curran's bowling and Jade Dernbach's captaincy in last night's t20 win away to Essex attracting a lot of positive comments from Nasser Hussain on Test commentary today.

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Post by alfie Sat 08 Jul 2017, 5:04 pm

I would never have visualized Dernbach as a captain...

Shows how wrong one can be from a distance. Well done him thumbsup

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