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Post by CJB on Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:42 am

The team of Jeff Horn has been suggesting they believe their fighter can win if he sticks to a ten point plan that they have come up with. Do you think the Aussie has a chance and what ten points would you come up with? I imagine he will aim to make this a tough fight by repeatedly landing his straight right and seeing if Pacquaio still really wants it.

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:02 pm

No chance. Pacman will smash him all over. Wont be watching.

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Post by Derbymanc on Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:37 pm

no

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Post by JabMachineMK2 on Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:14 pm

I hadn't heard of him before seeing an article on Sky Sports - so no. Pacquiao win and I won't be watching.

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Post by TheSquaredCircle on Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:59 pm

I think the 10 point plan might go out the window secondary to mannys 10 punch combos. On another note, having breakfast and watching a boxing match makes a refreshing change to staying up for 5am Vegas fights and watching bleary-eyed.

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Post by milkyboy on Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:26 am

It will be like algieri's trainer. Points 1-7 involve letting manny punch him in the face continually. Point 8 will be to tell him 'we're just where we want to be'', point 9 will be to tell him 'I'm going to let you out of the cage soon". Point 10 will be to produce the smelling salts.

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:21 am

TheSquaredCircle wrote:I think the 10 point plan might go out the window secondary to mannys 10 punch combos. On another note, having breakfast and watching a boxing match makes a refreshing change to staying up for 5am Vegas fights and watching bleary-eyed.

Only problem is that the main event starts at 13:30 Australian time - so for us its 04:30 - so pretty much the same as sitting up for a vegas fight.... Sad

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Post by Mr Bounce on Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:52 pm

1st 5 points - different ways of counting his purse.

2nd 5 points - different ways of spending his purse.

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Post by huw on Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:05 pm

Point one: Hit Manny, a lot.
Point two: Don't let him hit you back, at all.

What more would he need. Sounds like his trainer has over complicated this for the boxer....

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:57 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:
TheSquaredCircle wrote:I think the 10 point plan might go out the window secondary to mannys 10 punch combos. On another note, having breakfast and watching a boxing match makes a refreshing change to staying up for 5am Vegas fights and watching bleary-eyed.

Only problem is that the main event starts at 13:30 Australian time - so for us its 04:30 - so pretty much the same as sitting up for a vegas fight.... Sad

There is no Australia time...............Different time zones because it is a big place....

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:13 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:
TheSquaredCircle wrote:I think the 10 point plan might go out the window secondary to mannys 10 punch combos. On another note, having breakfast and watching a boxing match makes a refreshing change to staying up for 5am Vegas fights and watching bleary-eyed.

Only problem is that the main event starts at 13:30 Australian time - so for us its 04:30 - so pretty much the same as sitting up for a vegas fight.... Sad

There is no Australia time...............Different time zones because it is a big place....

Roger that.

Well its taking place in Brisbane which is 9 hours ahead of us...so with it starting at 13:30 local time....I can only assume it will be 04:30 ours.

Whats the undercard like? Any decent scraps?

Main event will be pants (personally) - think Pacman will beat ten bells out of him.

Still cant see why this fight is even happening.

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Post by whocares on Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:48 am

Watching since round 6 and it's not a cakewalk for Manny... if anything they probably won the same amount of the rounds I saw and we are in round 11...

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Post by Atila on Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:00 am

It was always a struggle for Manny. Saying that, I thought Manny edged it.

Horn has just confirmed that there is a rematch clause.

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Post by whocares on Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:00 am

115-113 in favour of Horne ... some upset ... felt Manny was lacking a bit of precision in his shots but the Aussie guy was brave to hang out at times. They seem to have a rematch clause as well... hope we see a better exit for Manny but feel he's declining.

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Post by Atila on Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:05 am

Wasn't that much of an upset for me. Manny is what.....38? The only way I see it was an upset is because some are so caught up with the idea of big names. Some will think Horn is not a big name so he's wasn't supposed to win. But that's not how things work.

Decent challenger at home, takes on fading champ. Perfect recipe for an upset.

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Post by milkyboy on Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:27 am

Manny was a wide favourite Atila... though not as wide as their respective cv's would suggest, so it looks like the outside chance of an upset was factored in by the bookies but they don't let names and sentiment cloud judgement, manny was still 1:6 on or something.

Certainly the aging champ going to the backyard of the young pretender is classic upset territory... mcguigan pedroza Hatton tszyu etc. ... don't think the shock is just about the 'name' just horn hadn't much to suggest he was a decent contender

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Post by AdamT on Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:59 pm

Manny please retire. I haven't seen the fight, but Pacquiao shouldn't be struggling with this caliber.

Probably a blessing he lost. With his age and the wear and tear, someone like Spence or Thurman would most likely flatten him now.

Pacquiao hasn't the style to fight into his 40's. If he has the rematch, he should definitely retire, win, lose, or draw!

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Post by Guest on Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:21 pm

Manny Pacquiao has been boxing professionally since the age of 16 and now has a political career as a Senator in the Philippines.  He doesn't need to continue boxing - certainly not for the money or the acclaim.  Yet he continues to box.  Maybe he is still out there trying to break various boxing records - including his own boxing records?

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Post by AdamT on Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:02 pm

He will end up getting hurt. One of the greatest fighters ever and getting bet by C level fighters.

Hated seeing Tyson beat by Williams and McBride. Also hate seeing what's become of Jones Jr. I have never watched Ali vs Holmes.

I don't like seeing greats being humiliated. Fair play to Lewis and Calzaghe for knowing when to quit. Froch as well.

Back to the fight, apparently Manny should of got the decision. But Horn is nothing really and shows the decline of Manny.

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Post by rapidringsroad on Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:04 pm

Watched the fight and though Manny wasn't dominant I thought he had done enough to win. He has come to the end of his career though and should think about calling it a day. Horn looked so much bigger than Pacquiao and at times looked quite impressive.

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Post by whocares on Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:09 am

Freddy Roach saying Manny should reallly consider retirement as with his senatorial duty his preparation for this fight was not good enough.

Also very sad to see how Roach own condition is declining fast.

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Post by hazharrison on Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:34 am

I thought Horn won a close fight. Had it 7-5 in rounds.

There seemed to be a real US/UK divide in the scoring, with many in the US claiming Pacquiao walked it (and was robbed).

Teddy Atlas was pretty disgraceful with his post-fight comments and took some shine away from Horn, who fought out of his skin.

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Post by mobilemaster8 on Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:12 am

So confused with this fight. I had Manny by 3 rounds.

Turned it off and only knew about the result when seeing it on Facebook! Couldnt believe it.

Looked at the cards, 117-111?! No idea.

Pacman has been on the end of some horrendous cards. Bradley?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:25 am

Losses at Manny's age won't hurt his legacy...Problem with Manny at the moment is his lack of direction...Fighting Horn is like a former PM agreeing to become Culture secretary....What is the point ??...What does a WBO or whatever mean now ??..

Like Floyd it is time...Moving on is a scary thing just ask Evander but it is an unavoidable inconvenience.

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Post by kingraf on Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:14 pm

I just watched this. Fair to say this was not exactly 2009 Manny, but I would like a detailed presentation displaying what on earth Horn did to win 9 rounds. Manny didn't look great, for sure, but damn. Did the judges have negative marking for Manny or something?
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Post by Atila on Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:03 pm

hazharrison wrote:I thought Horn won a close fight. Had it 7-5 in rounds.

There seemed to be a real US/UK divide in the scoring, with many in the US claiming Pacquiao walked it (and was robbed).

Teddy Atlas was pretty disgraceful with his post-fight comments and took some shine away from Horn, who fought out of his skin.
I'm not a great Compubox fan, but their stats say that Pacquiao out landed Horne in 11 of the 12 rounds. So how did he lose?  

Here's a link to the stats.
http://www.boxingscene.com/manny-pacquiao-vs-jeff-horn-compubox-punch-stats--118132

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