Surrey CCC 2019 Discussion Thread

[SimonofSurrey]

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After over 10000 views and 310+ articles spread over seven pages (which you have to scroll thro one by one on an i-phone) I've decided it's time we moved  on from the 2016 thread to this year. Here we go...

Cheers all,

Simon

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Scott Borthwick is expected to rejoin Durham at the end of the season

[jimbobgooner]

Scott Borthwick is expected to rejoin Durham at the end of the season

Excllent news olly
Is Stoneman doing the same?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Have to admit, contrary to some views both here and generally on Surrey twitter, I don't mind Borthwick personally. Think he is a solid first class bat, who based on our recruitment in recent seasons, we will struggle to replace.

No news on Stoneman, unless our inside reporter Guildford has any!

[guildfordbat]

Edited as I should have read the posts above first.

Borthwick rejoining Durham is reported as ''likely'' by Will Macpherson in tonight's London Standard. Macpherson is right more often than he's wrong.

I hadn't heard any whisper of this before today. I haven't heard anything about Stoneman either. However, the two are buddies and so it's not impossible one would want to follow the other. Stoneman being dropped (and he was dropped) for the current Bob Willis match and him not often being in the t20 side might encourage him to want away.

My take below.
Borthwick hasn't been a flop but equally hasn't delivered as much as wanted or expected. Stoneman had a great first season with us and deservedly won an England call up but has too often been disappointing since then. However, if either of them are to go, we will desperately need to recruit some batsmen over the winter. We don't have enough in the squad as it is.

[jimbobgooner]

Only a 25% refund from the club for 2020 memberships
This is absolutely disgraceful one friendly and a reduced t20 game for the year.
At least Dick Turpin wore a mask.

[guildfordbat]

Only a 25% refund from the club for 2020 memberships
This is absolutely disgraceful one friendly and a reduced t20 game for the year.
At least Dick Turpin wore a mask.

Hi JimBob - I'll comment when I get the Club's letter to members. Cheers.

[guildfordbat]

Only a 25% refund from the club for 2020 memberships
This is absolutely disgraceful one friendly and a reduced t20 game for the year.
At least Dick Turpin wore a mask.

Hi JimBob - I'll comment when I get the Club's letter to members. Cheers.

Hi again JimBob - I've now had a read of the letter. I accept the Club have obviously incurred some expenditure this season and have also battled hard to get cricket back on. However, what they are refunding seems low. I say ''seems'' - and this is what particularly hacks me off - as the Club haven't given any proper explanation as to why the percentage figure of 25 has been chosen. Why not 33%? Or 50%? Just possibly (although I doubt it) 25% is on the generous side and 20% might have been more appropriate. However, as I say, without a proper explanation there is no way of knowing.

The Club like to pride themselves as being transparent and open. They've fallen down badly here.

Assuming you are planning to renew, one thing I would flag is that you might want to hold off paying your 2021 membership until either the Covid virus has gone away (which doesn't look likely too soon) or the Club say what they will do with our 2021 membership fees if we again see next to no cricket. The Club had no way of foreseeing the pandemic this year; however, it's unfortunately a clear possibility for next year and the Club should face up to that and communicate what might happen. The vouchers for the odd pie and a pint at the Oval that they're planning to give us a ''thank you for renewing'' will be worth zilch if we can't get in the ground!

I won't be renewing until I know more. If you pay by direct debit, you might want to consider cancelling it but that's your call.

[guildfordbat]

Borthwick's return to Durham at the end of this season officially confirmed.

Even though Borthwick didn't (fully) live up to expectations and even though we've signed Evans, we still need to strengthen the batting.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Personally think Borthwick will be a big miss to the red ball side. Solid, if unspectacular with the bat, and a fantastic slip fielder.

Will be tough to replace I fear

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Some news - the Currans and Reece Topley sign new deals, Topley is for all formats which is good news!

Kemar Roach in as overseas for the first half of the year too

[guildfordbat]

Some news - the Currans and Reece Topley sign new deals, Topley is for all formats which is good news!

Kemar Roach in as overseas for the first half of the year too

Olly, Been meaning to ask - you've got a good handle on world cricket, what do you reckon to the Roach signing?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Some news - the Currans and Reece Topley sign new deals, Topley is for all formats which is good news!

Kemar Roach in as overseas for the first half of the year too

Olly,  Been meaning to ask - you've got a good handle on world cricket, what do you reckon to the Roach signing?

I wouldn’t say it’s a smash hit, but more a solid addition. He’s been a solid operator for a while now, more consistent than his younger, quicker days. Should enjoy early season conditions

[sirfredperry]

Currently watching Surrey's pre-season friendly with Middx at The Oval.

Jamie Smith is in. Looks a nice player.

[guildfordbat]

Currently watching Surrey's pre-season friendly with Middx at The Oval.

Jamie Smith is in. Looks a nice player.

He's highly regarded at the Oval. Looks like Surrey's top six for the Championship opener at Bristol will be the same as here with Smith keeping Jacks and Evans on the sidelines.

PS JimBob - good to catch a glimpse of you lurking in the shadows and no doubt ready to fully reappear on Wednesday.

[guildfordbat]

Just to add - an important day for each of the expected seven Surrey bowlers. Reckon one of today's five seamers will miss out on the Championship opener whilst it's probably a shoot out between Virdi and Moriarty for what will be one slow bowling place at Bristol.

I'm assuming Rikki Clarke is not in contention. Not sure if he's got an injury or is just out of favour. I understand he wasn't a happy chap at the end of last season.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Just to add - an important day for each of the expected seven Surrey bowlers. Reckon one of today's five seamers will miss out on the Championship opener whilst it's probably a shoot out between Virdi and Moriarty for what will be one slow bowling place at Bristol.

I'm assuming Rikki Clarke is not in contention. Not sure if he's got an injury or is just out of favour. I understand he wasn't a happy chap at the end of last season.

Interesting note re: Clarke, Guildford. Did wonder if he might be "phased out" this year with the addition of Overton late last year...

[sirfredperry]

I know it's only a friendly but Pope looked majestic yesterday. You have to think he'll make a stack of runs for England.

[guildfordbat]

No one in the stiffs knocking the door down for selection.

In the current second XI Championship game at Guildford (not allowed to attend even though I would be outside and more isolated than almost anywhere else!!), Surrey are 46/5 in reply to Yorks' 344 all out.

Patel made 2 and a couple of duck eggs for Jacks and Evans. Of the batsmen, JimBob's boy Nico Reifer top scored with 18 although that has been equalled by Extras! Another JimBob protege Ben Geddess now at the crease.

[jimbobgooner]

No one in the stiffs knocking the door down for selection.

In the current second XI Championship game at Guildford (not allowed to attend even though I would be outside and more isolated than almost anywhere else!!), Surrey are 46/5 in reply to Yorks' 344 all out.

Patel made 2 and a couple of duck eggs for Jacks and Evans. Of the batsmen, JimBob's boy Nico Reifer top scored with 18 although that has been equalled by Extras! Another JimBob protege Ben Geddess now at the crease.

Very worrying times
Apart from Geddes who has just scored another 50

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Sean Abbott returning to Australia with a hamstring tear is a big blow. He looked a handy player on his debut...and finding a replacement is going to be extremely tough with quarantine/overseas travel restrictions in certain countries.

[guildfordbat]

Sean Abbott returning to Australia with a hamstring tear is a big blow. He looked a handy player on his debut...and finding a replacement is going to be extremely tough with quarantine/overseas travel restrictions in certain countries.

And on top of that ... just announced that Topley will be out for 4 to 6 weeks with a side strain.

[jimbobgooner]

Sean Abbott returning to Australia with a hamstring tear is a big blow. He looked a handy player on his debut...and finding a replacement is going to be extremely tough with quarantine/overseas travel restrictions in certain countries.

And on top of that ... just announced that Topley will be out for 4 to 6 weeks with a side strain.

[jimbobgooner]

Nico Reifer is also on the treatment table after picking up a injury playing for the Second XI on Tuesday against Sussex ( not sure what the injury is but he wasn't available to bat.

[thegooch7]

Blimey.... Abbott and Topley out, going to be a struggle now

[jimbobgooner]

Will Macpherson of the Standard says Plunkett is injured as well

[jimbobgooner]

Rikki Clarke to retire at the end of the season

[jimbobgooner]

Jade Dernbach to leave at the end of the season choosing to pursue options away from the oval
due to a lack of playing time.
Thoughts with Gooch at this difficult time

[guildfordbat]

Jade Dernbach to leave at the end of the season choosing to pursue options away from the oval  
due to a lack of playing time.
Thoughts with Gooch at this difficult time  

He probably stayed at the Oval a couple of years too long for his benefit and ours but good luck to the guy. He always seemed to try his best and bought Bat Girl 1 a glass of champagne within minutes of meeting her!

[thegooch7]

Jade Dernbach to leave at the end of the season choosing to pursue options away from the oval  
due to a lack of playing time.
Thoughts with Gooch at this difficult time  

I've nothing against him personally! Just think he's been very over rated for a while now, but good luck to him in the future!

[kingdaveeagle]

Happy days are here again......

[jimbobgooner]

Mark Stoneman has left us for Middlesex, obviously the deal offered by us was way short of what he wanted.
New opening batsman now a priority

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

That's a blow - I think he's one of the better county openers on the circuit

[James100]

Reportedly Surrey only offered him a one year deal, but Middlesex offered him three so he took that

[guildfordbat]

Reportedly Surrey only offered him a one year deal, but Middlesex offered him three so he took that

Not seen the article but just heard that Will Macpherson reported this in the Standard. Macpherson usually knows how many beans make five!

Stoneman was most prolific for us in his first two years when he won his England call up but his departure now is still a big loss. Not only still a usually reliable county opener but a player who is unlikely to be lost to the Hundred or any of the world wide T20 tournaments for chunks of the season. Smart signing in all the circumstances by Middlesex.

[JDizzle]

Surrey linked with Chris Jordan in Dobell’s article today.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

And now announced as signed, and he will be the captain for the T20 Blast side. Very good signing

[jimbobgooner]

Dom Sibley next

[thegooch7]

Colin de Grandhomme signs for Surrey for the next 3 games! Decent player but I'd rather the youngsters were given a go

[guildfordbat]

Colin de Grandhomme signs for Surrey for the next 3 games! Decent player but I'd rather the youngsters were given a go

Slightly odd one that.

As goochie says, C de G is a decent player. We're able to sign him now as Roach is crocked but he's in no way a direct replacement. I suspect we tried first of all to sign C de G's fellow Kiwi Jamieson again but he wasn't available.

Incredibly and ludicrously, Sam Curran might be rested on ECB orders for the Gloucs match coming up this week, according to Will Macpherson in today's Standard. C de G would be an ideal and probably superior replacement for Sam.

Dan Worrall is also here now after family issues in Australia. He's a far lesser bowler than Roach but could well come into the side with Taylor pulling up injured last time out and Topley not often playing two matches on the reel.

The other bowler possibly in contention at Gloucs is Virdi. He's not injured as far as I know and not playing in the current stiffs' game which suggests he's with the first team squad.

[thegooch7]

Bit ridiculous if Curran is 'rested' after 1 game, I suppose I can see the logic of signing C de G then. Is Worrall available now? Good position to be in with our bowling I suppose, Clark, Topley and Overton have all started well, but we are going to need to pick a spinner at some stage

[guildfordbat]

Yep, Worrall is here and available. I'm not sure why (possibly his wife?) but he's not classed as an ''overseas''.
He was though classed as ''you're welcome to him'' by Gloucs supporters at the Oval late last season after his signing had been announced.

[jimbobgooner]

Sibley returns to Surrey

[James100]

Amla and Patel are (I think) both out of contract at the end of the season, I I assume this means one of them will be released and the other will bat 3?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Amla and Patel are (I think) both out of contract at the end of the season, I I assume this means one of them will be released and the other will bat 3?

You would have to assume Amla is retiring (?) - will be 40 next season. Patel should be re-signed either way, a very handy cricketer who's developed well, would be a massive shame to see him leave.

[guildfordbat]

Any news on when Sibley joins us?

Also, do you guys know anything about Aussie Aaron Hardie who has signed for the rest of the Blast and the Yorks 4 dayer at Scarbados? Thanks.

[guildfordbat]

Any news on when Sibley joins us?

Also, do you guys know anything about Aussie Aaron Hardie who has signed for the rest of the Blast and the Yorks 4 dayer at Scarbados? Thanks.

[jimbobgooner]

Any news on when Sibley joins us?

Also, do you guys know anything about Aussie Aaron Hardie who has signed for the rest of the Blast and the Yorks 4 dayer at Scarbados? Thanks.

Next year for Sibley

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

My facebook tells me it is 5 years to the day that Mr Bat snuck me into the members section at The Oval, to watch a day of The Rey! How has time gone so fast

[guildfordbat]

My facebook tells me it is 5 years to the day that Mr Bat snuck me into the members section at The Oval, to watch a day of The Rey! How has time gone so fast

Blimey! That’s gone quickly!

[jimbobgooner]

Dom Sibley next

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