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Post by Rugby Fan Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:18 am

First topic message reminder :

Friday, 15th September

Northampton vs Bath 19:45 (BT Sport)
Worcester vs Exeter 19:45
Sale vs London Irish 20:00

Saturday, 16th September

Leicester vs Gloucester 15:00 (BT Sport)
Newcastle vs Saracens 17:00 (BT Sport) <-- This one's in Philadelphia

Sunday, 17th September

Wasps vs Harlequins 15:00 (BT Sport)

Pundits extrapolating from first round results ended up with egg on their faces, most notably the premature Northampton obituaries, and Gloucester revival claims. The third round will give us a bit more perspective on what trajectory teams are really on.

If Saints only managed to get themselves fired up for last week's match, then Bath will expose them. Still, it's Franklin Gardens, and Northampton will feel a win will get their season well underway. Worcester look vulnerable but caused Wasps more problems than expected. However, Exeter looked back in gear last week, and you'd think will have too much for the Warriors. Sale against London Irish looks tasty, as the Sharks have started poorly, and another home loss would start alarm bells ringing.

Leicester are one of three winless teams, so will be keen to show they aren't misfiring, while Gloucester will be smarting after reverting back to type last week. Saracens haven't lost to Newcastle since 2009, and will be favourites in the US. Still, the Falcons are no mugs this season but might have preferred a genuine home fixture. Wasps are top of the table, and take on Quins at home, which ought to make them favourites. Quins derailed Gloucester last week, though, so shouldn't be over-awed.

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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:39 pm

TightHEAD wrote:Yet another Ref playing to the home crowd!

You'd never see that at the rec

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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:41 pm

Glos playing like we did in the last two games

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:41 pm

Tigers playing well without being totally dominant. Gloucester will feel slightly peeved with the ref I feel, they've had very little. Tigers lineout looking shaky again, scrum going well.

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Post by Heaf2 Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:42 pm

nathan wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:Yet another Ref playing to the home crowd!

You'd never see that at the rec

or the shed

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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:42 pm

Lol at Genges boxers

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Post by TightHEAD Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:43 pm

nathan wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:Yet another Ref playing to the home crowd!

You'd never see that at the rec

No, not like the midlands lot.
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Post by Guest Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:43 pm

Agree that the ref's been kind to Tigers but Ackerman himself could be the ref and Gloucester would still get tonked playing like this.

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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:43 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Tigers playing well without being totally dominant. Gloucester will feel slightly peeved with the ref I feel, they've had very little. Tigers lineout looking shaky again, scrum going well.

They can't be peeved at the pens they are giving away. They need to play for a bit more territory

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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:44 pm

TightHEAD wrote:
nathan wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:Yet another Ref playing to the home crowd!

You'd never see that at the rec

No, not like the midlands lot.

laughing

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Post by TightHEAD Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:45 pm

Last night a bath player only had to lay a finger on a Saints shoulder and the crowd wanted blood .

Are they not entertained?


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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:45 pm

Thackeray to come on in the second half

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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:46 pm

TightHEAD wrote:Last night a bath player only had to lay a finger on a Saints shoulder and the crowd wanted blood for t

You do moan alot

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Post by Heaf2 Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:46 pm

nathan wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Tigers playing well without being totally dominant. Gloucester will feel slightly peeved with the ref I feel, they've had very little. Tigers lineout looking shaky again, scrum going well.

They can't be peeved at the pens they are giving away. They need to play for a bit more territory

to be fair some pens have been debatable e.g. holding on versus tackler not releasing ...

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Post by Cumbrian Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:46 pm

I was looking at Woodward before the season as a potential England player, because of the hype. Must admit I have seen nowt to justify it so far in the games I've seen.
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Post by TightHEAD Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:48 pm

nathan wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:Last night a bath player only had to lay a finger on a Saints shoulder and the crowd wanted blood for t

You do moan alot

I'm watching Tigers v Glaws. My two most hated teams on the planet, of course I'm in a moaning mood.
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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:49 pm

Glos to get a roasting and come out with far more grunt up front

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:52 pm

Fuzzy Dunlop wrote:Agree that the ref's been kind to Tigers but Ackerman himself could be the ref and Gloucester would still get tonked playing like this.

If you lose pretty much every physical collision you generally end up losing the 50/50s. Happened to Tigers last weekend.

Toomua and Smith have bossed the centre of the park. Smith is smashing the Glaws backline for fun and is making Scott look very average.

Tigers would be clear if we could sort the lineout. Need to step out so there's a big gap and make it obvious to the ref when Glaws are closing the gap.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:57 pm

It's the most of the 50/50's that are going Tigers way, perhaps even the 40/60's. Nothing massively controversial, I'd just be a tad annoyed if it was my team.

Tigers decent value for their lead, they look good on the counter especially.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:05 pm

Well that wasn't predictable.

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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:06 pm

Pffffft

Have to say though, they should be on a warning by now

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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:10 pm

Hmmmmm, that went the wrong way. Clearly didn't release

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:10 pm

How's that a penalty to Glaws? Never a hint of a release on TV from the tackler. Glaws getting the rub so far this half.

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Post by Cumbrian Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:10 pm

Genge is some player, he is like a fitter, faster Mako Vunipola (perhaps slightly less power). He will be a frightening prospect in a couple of years time.
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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:12 pm

Lol, massively forward

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Post by Cumbrian Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:12 pm

I am going to shut my face about Woodward now... laughing
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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:19 pm

Ref evening it up now then

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Post by Guest Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:20 pm

Ah, Slater constantly looking for a scrap. I do miss him.

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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:21 pm

What the Frak was that tait

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:22 pm

Tigers looking much lighter in defence now Toomua is off. Tait isn't offering the same physicality or organisational skills.

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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:23 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:Tigers looking much lighter in defence now Toomua is off. Tait isn't offering the same physicality or organisational skills.

Why on earth did he kick the ball away too. We had 3 players next to him

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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:28 pm

I do miss slater

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Post by Cumbrian Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:31 pm

I am amazed that he hasn't given a yellow card for that.
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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:31 pm

How is that not a yellow

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Post by Cumbrian Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:32 pm

Even the player gave himself a yellow card! Laugh
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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:32 pm

That's a stone wall yellow card and he knows. That's terrible officiating.

Austin makes a good point though, where was the Tigers playing asking? Who was there asking the ref how many penalties that is now?

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Post by Heaf2 Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:33 pm

Major let-off

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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:33 pm

I think he's lost his cards, number of pens should be a warning by now

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Post by Cumbrian Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:38 pm

Bloody hell! It must be frustrating being a Gloucester supporter, they guff it up in the red zone time and time again.
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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:42 pm

Smith has played well today

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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:43 pm

15 penalties

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Post by Guest Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:44 pm

Keys gave Gloucester another final warning around the time of the deliberate knock on. He must've forgotten already.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:49 pm

Mike Williams man of the match? Had to be Smith surely?

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:51 pm

No not the corner!

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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:53 pm

Lol. No release again

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:54 pm

Twice in two weeks Bateman has ruined good attacking chances by taking the ball in on his own unnecessarily and getting turned over.

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Post by HongKongCherry Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:41 pm

Maxwell-House truly is an abysmal referee. I appreciate the need to bring young refs through, but he is consistently awful. I have yet to see him have a good game and he needs to be jettisoned from the Jeff.

Which also sums up Glaws. We're clearly religious fanatics and practice self-flagellation. It's so frustrating to watch!
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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:11 pm

He was useless, how a team can give away 17 penalties and not have someone in the bin. Then there was the knock on on their own line, then the not releasing and the ref giving it the other way

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Post by nathan Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:11 pm

Oh and there's the talking out the side of his mouth :p

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Post by HongKongCherry Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:15 pm

Absolutely. Thorley's slap down was as clear a yellow as you'll see. He was woeful for both sides. He misses so much, but is pedantic in equal measures.
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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:51 pm

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Which also sums up Glaws. We're clearly religious fanatics and practice self-flagellation. It's so frustrating to watch!

You did win the second half. Had Burns not needed replacing so soon before kick off you might have had more fluency to your game. Ackermann tweaked things well at half time so you'd think as he exerts his influence on the team more as the season progresses Glaws will become more consistent.

I'm hoping for similar with Tigers. O'Connor has plenty of work to do before he can feel safe in his job, we are not looking like a top four side just yet.

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