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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Fri May 25, 2018 10:59 am

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Klopp, who doesn’t spend money, looking to spend 60m on Fekir to go with 50m Keita


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Post by Atila Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:42 pm

Interesting, Pep says that Man City wanted Maguire but they couldn't afford it. I thought City could afford anyone they wanted.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/11777604/pep-guardiola-admits-man-city-couldnt-afford-harry-maguire

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Post by Atila Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:40 pm

GSC wrote:dybala to united is off due to his demands apparently so Lukaku is also stuck
I'm glad United didn't buckle. The last thing they need is another Sanchez.

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Post by Guest Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:51 pm

They’ve avoided the inevitable mistake that Dybala would of been, but still ending up paying £15m for a 33 year old, on £6m a year. If fit, he’s a decent option, but this just looks like a payday, for a player happy to sit on the bench.

Maguire, Mandzukic, AWB, and James. Just don’t see the step forward, in all honesty.

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Post by Atila Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:13 pm

Just John wrote:They’ve avoided the inevitable mistake that Dybala would of been, but still ending up paying £15m for a 33 year old, on £6m a year. If fit, he’s a decent option, but this just looks like a payday, for a player happy to sit on the bench.

Maguire, Mandzukic, AWB, and James. Just don’t see the step forward, in all honesty.
Between Tottenham, Chelsea, Arsenal and United they managed just 3 wins in their combined last 20 premier league games. Apart from Man City and Liverpool, a slight step forward could see them back in the top four at the end of next season.

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Post by GSC Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:42 am

to be honest I'm not entirely sure United havent paid a premium to stay at a similar level but with a better attitude
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Post by GSC Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:19 am

City swapping Danilo for Cancelo
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Post by Guest Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:03 am

Liverpool signing Adrian as #2 on a free transfer, with Simon Mignolet heading for Club Brugge for £6m

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:33 am

Dybala had quality, potential for growth and some reputation. Think that he’d have been a good signing, there’s a lack of quality in that side.

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Post by compelling and rich Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:14 pm

compelling and rich wrote:this is where the club need to do its due diligence, they need to speak to dybala and see if he wants to play for the club. agent of course will try and sell it but he wages demands will clearly be the first tell tale sign.  if he convinces and ole wants someone in that position then he may well be worth a gamble. if anything is slightly out on above criteria i wouldn't risk it

well done united, glad were finally holding firm. were still a way off the top sides but I do actually feel like we are at least heading in the right direction now

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Post by compelling and rich Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:16 pm

Just John wrote:They’ve avoided the inevitable mistake that Dybala would of been, but still ending up paying £15m for a 33 year old, on £6m a year. If fit, he’s a decent option, but this just looks like a payday, for a player happy to sit on the bench.

Maguire, Mandzukic, AWB, and James. Just don’t see the step forward, in all honesty.

maguire and awb are massive improvements on what we had

I know awb is still green but has looked great in pre season so far

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Post by Guest Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:25 pm

compelling and rich wrote:maguire and awb are massive improvements on what we had

Yeah, I like AWB, thought that was great business. Maguire, not so much. Guess my original scepticism about United’s window, was the failure to improve that woeful midfield. Pogba doesn’t want to be there, you’ve lost the workhorse in Herrera, and Lukaku might end up staying there, having made it clear he wants out. Mandzukic deal seems to be off, so if Rashford gets injured, and you eventually sell Lukaku to Inter, you’ve pretty much got no backup, maybe Martial or Greenwood. I’d be worried, if I was a United fan. Defence is one thing, but that midfield is abysmal, and I seriously wonder where the goals are coming from.

Crystal Palace sign Gary Cahill

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Post by Guest Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:55 pm

GSC wrote:City swapping Danilo for Cancelo

Incredible business, getting Cancelo for £28m. Added with Rodri, it just seems Pep has kept things ticking over nicely, with these two extremely tidy additions. Can’t look past them to retain, especially with Liverpool, pretty much stagnating.

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Post by compelling and rich Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:17 pm

Just John wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:maguire and awb are massive improvements on what we had

Yeah, I like AWB, thought that was great business. Maguire, not so much. Guess my original scepticism about United’s window, was the failure to improve that woeful midfield. Pogba doesn’t want to be there, you’ve lost the workhorse in Herrera, and Lukaku might end up staying there, having made it clear he wants out. Mandzukic deal seems to be off, so if Rashford gets injured, and you eventually sell Lukaku to Inter, you’ve pretty much got no backup, maybe Martial or Greenwood. I’d be worried, if I was a United fan. Defence is one thing, but that midfield is abysmal, and I seriously wonder where the goals are coming from.

Crystal Palace sign Gary Cahill

i do agree that goals could well be a issue this season, rashford is hardly prolific. still rumours around bruno fernandes which could improve the midfield. our main glaring weakness last season was defence though, in which we have plugged to holes with two young players who should definitely improve us. you might not rate maguire massively but surely you can agree he's a huge improvement on smalling, jones, bailly and rojo.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:01 pm

Interesting that two signings stop City stagnating but Liverpool are. They’ll be close and closer than anyone else

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Post by Guest Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:39 am

Wayne Rooney heading to Derby County, as player-coach
Spurs looking to tie up deals for Giovani Lo Celso & Ryan Sessegnon, which will allow Christian Eriksen to join Manchester United.

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Post by Soul Requiem Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:51 am

Wayne Rooney as a coach?

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Post by GSC Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:19 am

derby love a big name
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Post by BamBam Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:27 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Interesting that two signings stop City stagnating but Liverpool are. They’ll be close and closer than anyone else

Those two signings are really top drawer though, and other than left back were their two biggest needs imo - a replacement / competition for Fernandinho and arguably the best right back in world football

I don't buy the whole Ox + Keita are effectively new signings shtick either

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Post by GSC Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:46 pm

arsenal signing coutinho on loan feels peak arsenal
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Post by Guest Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:51 pm

Arsenal trying for Dayot Upemanco from Leipzig.
Harry Wilson joining Bournemouth on season-long loan.
Tottenham agree £70m fee with Juventus for Paulo Dybala.


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Post by GSC Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:18 pm

sky in italy claiming spurs have bid 70m for dybala
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Post by dyrewolfe Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:30 pm

Boro have signed Dutch defender Anfernee Dijksteel from Charlton, for an undisclosed fee (we seem to do that a lot lately).

Get your humorous puns in now...

He is just our 3rd new signing (4th if you count keeper Tomas Mejias re-signing).
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Post by Guest Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:16 pm

Zaha hands in transfer request, trying to force a move. Everton had an offer for Iwobi rejected, and a rejected attempt to get Smalling on loan. 

Danny Welbeck has signed for Watford on a free transfer
Newcastle close to signing, Emil Krafth, from Amiens
Eintract Frankfurt have signed Kevin Trapp from PSG
David Luiz trying to force a move to Arsenal

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Post by Atila Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:38 pm

Sky are reporting that Inter have bid £77 million for Lukaku, and the BBC are saying that a deal is close.

To be honest, I don't think Lukaku is as bad as some people make out. If he goes, then I wish him all the best.

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Post by compelling and rich Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:49 pm

Atila wrote:Sky are reporting that Inter have bid £77 million for Lukaku, and the BBC are saying that a deal is close.

To be honest, I don't think Lukaku is as bad as some people make out. If he goes, then I wish him all the best.

bit of a flat track bully who only does it against the weaker sides. when he first joined he's a player i could handle even with that, but now hes not fit enough, slow and too bulky

refusing to train with the team sums up his attitude recently. get rid for that price and build with players who want to be at the club

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Post by GSC Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:28 pm

to be fair to Lukaku, hes forced the issue lately because he felt being professional was getting him nowhere in a situation where the manager clearly doesn't want him but Woodward was digging in because he didnt want another embarrassing cut price sale against his name.

arsenal signing sideshow bob seems peak arsenal
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Post by Guest Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:41 pm

Hoping Tierney replicates the success of Robertson, and, Luiz, the ageing, liability. Not sure that reassures Arsenal fans worries, or addresses any of their defensive weaknesses.

Djibril Sidibe has joined Everton on a season-long loan 
Aaron Mooy heading to Brighton, on a season-long loan 
Danny Drinkwater heading to Burnley on a season-loan
Scott Carson heading to Manchester City on season-long loan
Charlie Austin leaving Southampton and joining WBA for £4m
Watford sign Rennes winger, Ismaila Sarr, for a club-record fee
Leicester agree £18m fee with Sampdoria for Dennis Praet
Inter Milan sign Romelu Lukaku from Man U, for £73m
Tottenham sign Ryan Sessegnon for 25m
Unsurprisingly, Andy Carroll is coming home. Budget obviously spent. Laugh

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Post by GSC Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:28 pm

signing Iwobi for 35m after bidding 70m for Zaha is definitely **** it he'll do territory
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Post by Guest Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:50 pm

Underwhelming window, from the top 6, imo. Think City have done the best business, which is worrying for the league. Not quite sure what to make of United’s window, midfield and attack, completely ignored. Good window for Leicester and a decent one for Everton, trying to bridge that gap. At the other end, I worry for Palace, if Zaha decides to down tools for a lengthy period.

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Post by Soul Requiem Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:08 am

Newcastle signing Andy Carroll seems like a massive waste of time, he'll play a handful of games if they're lucky and make no impact whatsoever, it is a shame that a promising career has been wrecked by injury. That signing is vying with Everton signing Iwobi for worst deadline day signing, he's such an average player and is only known because he was at Arsenal.

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Post by Guest Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:34 am

It doesn’t come anywhere near the worst deadline day deal. It’s a free transfer, and it’s a one-year deal. Worth the gamble. Not bothered if he can only play a handful of games, because Joelinton is our #9, anyway. We just needed some kind of back-up, to go with, Gayle. PR move too from Ashley, bringing a Geordie lad back to the club.

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Post by GSC Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:41 am

think City, Spurs and Arsenal can be reasonably happy.

Liverpool I think could've used some more depth, decent risk of burnout for them I think, given the front 3 all played tournament football over the summer.

Not entirely sure United paid a premium for quality or just paid a premium. regardless, I think most would've expected more than a CB and a RB, and they look a bit short up front given they didnt replace Lukaku.

Chelsea hands were mostly tied, though I think long term they'll be stronger for being forced to start drip feeding their young players into the squad
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Post by Soul Requiem Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:03 am

I think Man United were determined to keep things homegrown this year and with no English midfielders or forwards worth buying they didn't bother, not signing Dybala will be a blessing in that respect.

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Post by BamBam Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:47 am

The Glazers will be paying Woodward a healthy bonus this year, books nicely balanced.

The whole Brexit FC nonsense is just a cover up for not spending any money

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Post by GSC Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:10 am

Soul Requiem wrote:I think Man United were determined to keep things homegrown this year and with no English midfielders or forwards worth buying they didn't bother, not signing Dybala will be a blessing in that respect.
that doesn't really make sense as an approach though
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Post by Soul Requiem Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:12 am

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Soul Requiem wrote:I think Man United were determined to keep things homegrown this year and with no English midfielders or forwards worth buying they didn't bother, not signing Dybala will be a blessing in that respect.
that doesn't really make sense as an approach though

It does in the sense that buying expensive overseas players hasn't worked so going back to basics is worth trying, there isn't a lack of talent at the club just a lack of direction.

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Post by GSC Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:28 am

so it's better to have no striker than a young english one?

sorry it's a nonsense approach.
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Post by GSC Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:43 am

https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2019/aug/09/manchester-united-needed-a-rebuild-this-summer-but-failed-to-act-once-again?CMP=share_btn_tw&__twitter_impression=true

think this is mostly spot on
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Post by compelling and rich Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:23 pm

GSC wrote:so it's better to have no striker than a young english one?

sorry it's a nonsense approach.

we have a one in greenwood

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Post by GSC Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:56 pm

which is great if hes brought along at his own pace. as it stands Uniteds main backup to Rashford through the middle is a 17 year old with 3 PL appearances. I'm struggling to work out how a club with Uniteds resources ended up in that position when it's been apparent for a while OGS didnt want Lukaku
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Post by Soul Requiem Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:00 pm

I'd rather give Greenwood a chance than waste yet more money on an overseas signing.

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Post by GSC Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:31 pm

why cant it be both.

it's amazing England dont win more if overseas players are this bad
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Post by Soul Requiem Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:34 pm

That's a special kind of extrapolation you've made there; Pogba awesome for France but terrible for Man United.

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Post by GSC Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:37 pm

that can only be because hes not british
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:20 pm

Soul Requiem wrote:I'd rather give Greenwood a chance than waste yet more money on an overseas signing.

Don't waste the money then. Start to actually learn how to do transfers

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Post by Atila Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:26 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:I'd rather give Greenwood a chance than waste yet more money on an overseas signing.

Don't waste the money then. Start to actually learn how to do transfers
I'm sure United know how to do them. There's no guarantee of success with any transfer.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:50 pm

Atila wrote:
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Soul Requiem wrote:I'd rather give Greenwood a chance than waste yet more money on an overseas signing.

Don't waste the money then. Start to actually learn how to do transfers
I'm sure United know how to do them. There's no guarantee of success with any transfer.
So don't try?

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Post by compelling and rich Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:42 am

will still definitely need a couple more players (cm and rw/st) but what we definitely dont need to do is rush and panic buy. our recruitment has been bad enough recently. im glad were starting to hold firm over transfers instead of being an agents play toy. city dont bow down to agents and players ridiculous demands and do plenty of good transfer business

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Post by GSC Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:56 am

you had all summer to not rush and panic buy
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Post by compelling and rich Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:01 am

GSC wrote:you had all summer to not rush and panic buy

and we addressed our two weakest positions

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