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Post by LondonTiger Tue 03 Jul 2018, 11:09 am

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T20s

A three match series between the 2nd (India) and 4th ranked teams in the world https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/mens/team-rankings/t20i

Fixtures

Tuesday 3rd July 2018 17:30
Emirates Old Trafford, Manchester

Friday 6th July 2018 17:30
Sophia Gardens Cardiff, Cardiff

Sunday 8th July 2018 14:00
The Brightside Ground, Bristol


Squads

England: Morgan, Ali, Bairstow, Ball, Buttler, Curran S, Curran T, Hales, Jordan, Plunkett, Rashid, Root, Roy, Willey (Malan in as cover for 1st game, Stokes may join for 3rd)

India: Kohli, Chahal, Chahar, Dhawan, Dhoni, Karthik, Kaul, Kuldeep Yadav, Kumar, Pandey, HH Pandya, KH Pandya, Rahul, Raina, Sharma UT Yadav


Key Men

Jos Buttler - move up the order during IPL has given him much more time to have an impact. While only ranked 26 in ICC rankings, this will improve now he opens.
Alex Hales - Formerly top ranked batter in T20s, has dropped a bit (to 7) and finds his place in the England side under threat.
Rashid/Ali - Englands spinners have thrived in the one day format, but will find the Indian batting lineup a tough test.

Virat Kohli - probably the best batsmen in the world across all 3 forms of the game. Some injury issues recently.
Chahal/Kuldeep Yadav - India look like going with two wrist spinners. England often struggle to score quickly against good spin.



ODIs

Fixtures

Another 3 match series between the the top two ranked sides in the world.  Both teams will be wanting to lay down a marker before next year's world cup.


Thursday 12th July 2018 12:30
Trent Bridge, Nottingham

Saturday 14th July 2018 11:00
Lord's, London

Tuesday 17th July 2018 12:30
Emerald Headingley, Leeds


Squads

England - Eoin Morgan (capt), Moeen Ali, Jonny Bairstow, Jake Ball, Jos Buttler, Alex Hales, Liam Plunkett, Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Jason Roy, Ben Stokes, David Willey, Mark Wood.



Test Series

A form of cricket in which the visitors have been much better than the hosts. The series goes deep into September as India seek to avenge the series defeat in 2014. In a manner we have become used to seeing from touring teams around the world, that series India capitulated in the final 3 tests  having won the second test to take a 1-0 lead. India however look strong enough this time out to put pressure on a faltering home test team.


Fixtures

Wednesday 1st August 2018 11:00
Edgbaston, Birmingham

Thursday 9th August 2018 11:00
Lord's, London

Saturday 18th August 2018 11:00
Trent Bridge, Nottingham

Thursday 30th August 2018 11:00
Ageas Bowl, Southampton

Friday 7th September 2018 11:00
Kia Oval, London

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 02 Aug 2018, 3:56 pm

alfie wrote:
Good Golly I'm Olly wrote: STOP DROPPING KOHLI YOU BLITHERING IDIOTS
 Easy , Olly 
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I'm sure they're not doing it on purpose. In fairness to Malan that was a tough one.  A pity they've chosen to give extra lives to Kohli of all people .

Let us hope they are due to catch the next ten straight...

It is annoying they keep dropping the best batsman - hopefully it's not like that summer of a few years ago when they kept dropping Amla as he racked up a bazillion runs Sad
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:05 pm

Good news on Buttler - no fracture in his finger, but he won't field for the rest of today and will be assessed tomorrow morning.
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Post by alfie Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:10 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Good news on Buttler - no fracture in his finger, but he won't field for the rest of today and will be assessed tomorrow morning.
That's good news. Hopefully OK to bat second innings.

Think Ashwin is going to play his shots ...  England must fancy wrapping this up if they can grab one early in this session - but these two could still be dangerous.

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Post by Duty281 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:13 pm

Hint of desperation about that Kohli review.

Zero reviews left now.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:13 pm

Think Root should start trusting Anderson and not Bairstow on those reviews...
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Post by compelling and rich Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:13 pm

another awful review

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Post by msp83 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:14 pm

James Anderson, at this stage of his career, bowling 16 out of the 50 overs bowled so far. He hasn't taken a wicket yet, but Kohli is reduced to more than ordinary before him, though the Indian captain is still there though just about, and might yet turn it around. He needs all the assistance from England in there, and they are glad to provide the same.

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Post by alfie Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:14 pm

Review against Kohli..close...but missing !  Reviews gone...

Thought it might have been umpires call ; but no.  Got one call right out of four  Smile

Never mind ...that's out ! Ashwin gone...


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Post by msp83 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:15 pm

So finally, a wicket for Anderson. Ashwin didn't last too long...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:15 pm

That was a rather decent delivery from Mr Anderson
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Post by alfie Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:21 pm

Anderson has bowled beautifully today...wicket way overdue. Though his pressure has had a lot to do with wickets at the other end.

They've missed a run out now by about an inch ! Kohli starting to take some risks as his support gets thinner...

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Post by msp83 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:23 pm

Shami can slog a few, Ishant can hang around a bit, and Umesh on a good day would have a shot or 2 coming off. But all down to Kohli, to even take his side to 200 here.

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Post by jimbohammers Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:30 pm

So Ashwin got 4 wickets in the first innings, can someme tell me why Rashid has only bowled 1 over so far?

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Post by alfie Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:30 pm

Shami not lasting long...Malan holds on this time. 182/8

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Post by msp83 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:30 pm

Kohli totally dominated by Anderson, even when batting on 66. He just hasn't figured out how to even pick up a single without alarm. But Virat has been lucky, very, very lucky to be out there still. Its not just the drop catches, getting beaten too many times, edgy throughout...

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Post by alfie Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:31 pm

jimbohammers wrote:So Ashwin got 4 wickets in the first innings, can someme tell me why Rashid has only bowled 1 over so far?

Because the pace men have been dominating India since the first wicket fell ?

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:32 pm

jimbohammers wrote:So Ashwin got 4 wickets in the first innings, can someme tell me why Rashid has only bowled 1 over so far?

They does not want to break the momentum of falling of wickets. Very Happy
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Post by msp83 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:35 pm

The end is near...
Now expecting a meltdown from the bowling unit as well, hundreds for Cook and Root, runs for Jennings who needs runs to secure his place, and destruction from Bairstow, Buttler and Stokes, and another liability performance from the batters 2nd time round. A 4 day finish pretty much on the card, that too because England would be batting through the 3rd day...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:36 pm

Umpires are not having a good day
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Post by msp83 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:36 pm

Some luck came Anderson's way when Ishant was wrongly given out, but as it hasn't been Jimmy's day, overturned on review...

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Post by alfie Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:37 pm

Lbw given...review...if he hasn't hit it it's dead...but there is an inside edge and Ishant survives.

Contrary to earlier suggestions I hear Jos Buttler is back out there...a good sign.

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:38 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Umpires are not having a good day

That was close man. Loud cheers from the crowd fades the inside edge music.
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Post by jimbohammers Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:38 pm

alfie wrote:
jimbohammers wrote:So Ashwin got 4 wickets in the first innings, can someme tell me why Rashid has only bowled 1 over so far?

Because the pace men have been dominating India since the first wicket fell ?

Not able to watch as I'm at work, just following the scorecard.

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Post by msp83 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:38 pm

Virat wants to better that average in England. Wants a not out against his name here, singles early in the over...

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Post by alfie Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:40 pm

msp83 wrote:The end is near...
Now expecting a meltdown from the bowling unit as well, hundreds for Cook and Root, runs for Jennings who needs runs to secure his place, and destruction from Bairstow, Buttler and Stokes, and another liability performance from the batters 2nd time round. A 4 day finish pretty much on the card, that too because England would be batting through the 3rd day...

Is this a Trebell like attempt to influence the fate of the match , msp ? Or are you just a natural optimist ? Smile

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Post by Duty281 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:42 pm

Just a question now of how much Kohli can eat into that 100 run lead.

Been a very game performance by England's bowlers, in spite of numerous fielding errors.

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:43 pm

Thought in my mind right now ..

"Back in 2010 Ishant Sharma added 80 odd runs for the 9th wicket with Laxman. Can he do it again?"

A depressed Indian fan exploring options...
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Post by msp83 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:43 pm

Ishant should try and shield his skipper from Anderson!! Kohli got a single of the first ball of the over again, but Ishant spoiled the plot by picking up 1 of the next ball!

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Post by alfie Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:45 pm

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alfie wrote:
jimbohammers wrote:So Ashwin got 4 wickets in the first innings, can someme tell me why Rashid has only bowled 1 over so far?

Because the pace men have been dominating India since the first wicket fell ?

Not able to watch as I'm at work, just following the scorecard.

Ah ... I see. Trust me , if you're watching you expect a wicket to fall at any moment ...but for Kohli , and a lot of luck , India would have been all out long ago. Really has been no call to use Rashid . In fact you might argue his one over was a mistake ; though I was happy enough they tried him just before lunch...it might have worked.
He might be busier second innings.

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:47 pm

alfie wrote:
msp83 wrote:The end is near...
Now expecting a meltdown from the bowling unit as well, hundreds for Cook and Root, runs for Jennings who needs runs to secure his place, and destruction from Bairstow, Buttler and Stokes, and another liability performance from the batters 2nd time round. A 4 day finish pretty much on the card, that too because England would be batting through the 3rd day...

Is this a Trebell like attempt to influence the fate of the match , msp ?  Or are you just a natural optimist ? Smile

alfie, I think msp thought are quite clear. We are experiencing these kind of situation for the last 9 test matches we have played in England. Crying or Very sad
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Post by guildfordbat Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:47 pm

jimbohammers wrote:So Ashwin got 4 wickets in the first innings, can someme tell me why Rashid has only bowled 1 over so far?

Jimbo - because he's best suited when the opposition are 70/5 in their second dig chasing 450. Ok? Smile

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Post by alfie Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:48 pm

Careful , England...Kohli upping his scoring with successive boundaries off Curran. Need to make sure he doesn't cut loose and close this gap quickly...

Twenty useful runs added by this pair.

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Post by msp83 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:48 pm

alfie wrote:
msp83 wrote:The end is near...
Now expecting a meltdown from the bowling unit as well, hundreds for Cook and Root, runs for Jennings who needs runs to secure his place, and destruction from Bairstow, Buttler and Stokes, and another liability performance from the batters 2nd time round. A 4 day finish pretty much on the card, that too because England would be batting through the 3rd day...

Is this a Trebell like attempt to influence the fate of the match , msp ?  Or are you just a natural optimist ? Smile
The situation is so dire that even Trebs himself, if he becomes an actual Indian supporter, can't save Kohli's side here.
Its all about the patterns Alfie, patterns from the last 2 tour. To the add to the patterns, during the last tour, it was skipper Mahendra Singh Dhoni who put up some runs on the board, braving blows and all. But with MS, there was a sense of some stability then, Virat is just surviving even batting on 74.

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Post by msp83 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:53 pm

guildfordbat wrote:
jimbohammers wrote:So Ashwin got 4 wickets in the first innings, can someme tell me why Rashid has only bowled 1 over so far?

Jimbo - because he's best suited when the opposition are 70/5 in their second dig chasing 450. Ok? Smile
Guildford, let me get on the offensive here.
So who is the Shane Warne who could have come into the side instead who would have run through sides before lunch on day one!? Where are you hiding him?
They went back to Rashid even when he had stepped away from long formats cricket because the others weren't good enough, and at least in the limited overs stuff, he has been consistently enough doing a decent job.

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Post by msp83 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:55 pm

While I had to charge out and try and slog Guildford else he would have settled down to a nice line and length of Rashid bashing, I must admit his selection does create significant ethical dilemmas for sure...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:55 pm

That looks to be a very poor decision again
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:56 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:That looks to be a very poor decision again

Yep - Ishant clearly outside the line of off stump.
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Post by alfie Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:56 pm

Here we go again ...Anderson has Ishant given ...reviews...not out as hit just outside off...

Frustration for England.

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Post by Duty281 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:56 pm

Umpire having a worse day than England's slip cordon.

Kohli has added 65 runs since Malan shelled an easy chance. What could have been a match-winning lead is now far from it.

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Post by alfie Thu 02 Aug 2018, 4:59 pm

Ha ha , msp ...I am beginning to see similarities between Indian and England supporters ...

Both constantly fear disaster is just around the corner - especially when they are doing well Smile

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Post by msp83 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 5:00 pm

Its been 21 overs of work for Anderson, while Kohli is there there is every reason for Root to keep him on, he has to see the larger picture as well. With India 8 down, someone like Broad should step up and clean up the lower order. They can't bowl Anderson to the ground. Unlike a couple of years ago, Anderson's body has started to feel the heat in recent times, all those overs are catching up with him, and they would need him through the series. The hold that he has over Kohli itself means he has to play all 5 games...

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Post by msp83 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 5:04 pm

Perhaps its time for a short burst from Stokes. And perhaps Broad also should get a bowl, a lower order wicket is nevertheless a wicket, and for a confidence player, that might mean a lot more going into the 2nd innings.

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Post by Duty281 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 5:05 pm

Agree about Anderson. He has bowled far too much today. At this rate he won't be fit for the second test!

Kohli now into the 90s, the lead below 80.

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Post by alfie Thu 02 Aug 2018, 5:10 pm

Lead being whittled away by this pair...lots of "nearly" moments for England but they can't quite put the innings to bed.

A Kohli century seems to be written...

Wonder how close he will take his team to parity ?

Stokes on ... Fair move I think.

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Post by Duty281 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 5:16 pm

Sharma undone by spin. That's a frustrating partnership broken.

Kohli needs to tee off now.

EDIT: Though a review would have saved him. Deplorable umpiring in this test.

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Post by msp83 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 5:19 pm

alfie wrote:Ha ha , msp ...I am beginning to see similarities between Indian and England supporters ...

Both constantly fear disaster is just around the corner - especially when they are doing well Smile
But Alfie, other than in that passage starting with the Root run-out, India has always been made to do the running in this test. And the patterns are repeating themselves.
But this is frustrating for England, last 5 wickets already doubling the score...

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Post by msp83 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 5:20 pm

Ishant was doing so well with those reviews! Why oh why did not take another one! Pretty poor game for the umpires it has to be said!!

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Post by alfie Thu 02 Aug 2018, 5:21 pm

Bizarre ! Ishant fails to review his lbw ...which would have saved him yet again !

Rashid has the breakthrough. Guess that's why you pick a wrist spinner ...they can be very lucky devils Smile

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Post by Duty281 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 5:22 pm

Century for Kohli. Certainly not his best, but he's scrapped very well.

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 02 Aug 2018, 5:23 pm

Wow ! Wow ! Wow !.. A masterclass hundred from the best player of the game.
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