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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:01 pm

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Looks a really open season this year, with Stoke the only team guaranteed promotion due to having Tom Ince.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:33 am

GSC wrote:https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2019/january/a-note-from-the-chairman2/

Mental

This is incredible. Maybe the best club statement I've ever read
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Post by Guest Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:02 am

Karanka leaves Forest

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Post by Derbymanc Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:23 am

That's a mental decision by Forest, quite a few dodgy seasons and they just seemed to be getting on an even keel and fighting for top 6. How do the Forest fans on here see it?

I know us derby fans will be laughing about it as you seemed a threat with him in charge. Wonder how the players feel.

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Post by GSC Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:35 am

All a bit silly, but Marinakis has a reputation for this from Olympiakos and Karanka has one of being difficult from Boro so I'm not completely shocked.
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Post by GSC Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:38 am

Anyway Jokanovic is the guy they've been talking to
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Post by GSC Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:05 am

In other news Leeds sent a spy to watch Derby train and he ended up being picked up by the police
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:19 am

Is there any actual punishment, or precedent for this? Weird story
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Post by GSC Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:29 am

I'd dock points personally
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Post by Derbymanc Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:38 am

I don't really see a massive problem with this unless he broke in somewhere, if he did then fair enough, throw the book at them if not then if you don't want to be watched then train behind closed doors

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Post by westisbest Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:01 am

Well this will a long trip home.
If the result wasn’t bad enough, only needed Grimsby to score for £616.

Puffs cheeks out.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:23 am

Looks like O’Neill for Forest. Suits both parties

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Post by GSC Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:39 am

Well that's something
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Post by Duty281 Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:32 am

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Is there any actual punishment, or precedent for this? Weird story

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jan/16/marcelo-bielsa-leeds-spied-every-opponent

Getting weirder. Can't see any positive way out of this for Leeds, although I'm unsure if they've actually broken any rules. If they have, imagine if they missed out on promotion because of a points deduction!

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Post by Pr4wn Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:08 pm

They haven't broken any rules so any punishment would be unprecedented.

What I find staggering is, firstly, pundits that say that "diving is just part of the game that we should accept" are advocating a points deduction or, even more hilariously, a reversal of the Derby result.

Also, English football taking the moral high-ground on this is a bit ridiculous. They're happy to let Russian oligarchs and Middle-Eastern torturers own teams, happy for gambling companies that profit from the misery of the poor to sponsor the shirt of teams, happy for teams for effectively price out their core support. But then Bielsa does something that has literally been done thousands of times before and we see this ridiculous incredulity.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:15 am

Pr4wn wrote:They haven't broken any rules so any punishment would be unprecedented.

What I find staggering is, firstly, pundits that say that "diving is just part of the game that we should accept" are advocating a points deduction or, even more hilariously, a reversal of the Derby result.

Also, English football taking the moral high-ground on this is a bit ridiculous. They're happy to let Russian oligarchs and Middle-Eastern torturers own teams, happy for gambling companies that profit from the misery of the poor to sponsor the shirt of teams, happy for teams for effectively price out their core support. But then Bielsa does something that has literally been done thousands of times before and we see this ridiculous incredulity.

Yep it's ludicrous isn't it! I've seen journalists use the phrase "spirit of the game" without irony!!! The same journalists who likely would have done the same thing, and particularly have done the same thing with England before to get stories...
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Post by GSC Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:40 am

Gayle dives, wins a penalty that costs us 2 points.

Gets a ban against the team 2 points behind us.

Punishment doesn't really fit the crime...
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Post by Beer Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:42 am

The idiot that ran on to the pitch and attacked Jack Grealish has been jailed for 14 weeks.

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Post by westisbest Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:32 pm

And a 10 year banning order I heard.

Very fitting that Jack scores the winner.

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Post by GSC Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:06 am

Pray for Bolton
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:06 pm

GSC wrote:Pray for Bolton

The latest chairman's notes were simultaneously insane and harrowing - what a state that man has gotten the club into, but looking back how the EFL ever let him take over is beyond me. He literally was banned from being a Director of companies for 8 years by the government because he basically funneled money from his old business into his personal accounts...complete nonsense
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Post by GSC Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:21 pm

Because much like this time they have a choice between him or the club going into oblivion which creates myriad issues.
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Post by westisbest Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:49 pm

Congrats on Norwich and Sheffield united going up this season. Totally deserved.

Now. Hopefully Villa can make it third time lucky.

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Post by Duty281 Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:13 am

Just seen today's incident - you play to the whistle. Sick and tired of teams demanding the ball is put out when one of their players is down. Only referees should make that call. Otherwise play on. Only mistake Leeds made was gifting Villa a goal in reply to the latter's intimidation. Referee also made a mistake in that he should have booked about four Villa players for their actions (including sending off Mings) post-goal.

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Post by westisbest Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:46 pm

It’s called fair play. We put the ball out for Leeds. Yes to play the whistle, but let’s have a bit of sportsman ship in the game.

As for us having players booked. Leeds should of had more bookings to.

Not to mention Bamford the fckng cheat.
Should be embarrassed to walk the streets after that nonsense.
Also cloths lined Hourihane. That was missed though.
Fair play to the Leeds manager. Showing a bit of class.
Anyway fk em.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Apr 28, 2019 11:22 pm

GSC wrote:In other news Leeds sent a spy to watch Derby train and he ended up being picked up by the police

Leeds’s form pre and post this is quite interesting...
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Post by GSC Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:11 am

I think you either stop or play, Leeds stopped as though they were putting the ball out so Villa froze, then he played the key pass. To me, that's not on.
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Post by Duty281 Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:13 am

Fair play? Sportsmanship? Villa didn't show much of that - diving, faking injuries, attacking opposition players, starting a brawl in the technical dugout...disgraceful stuff. With the exception of Bamford, who I believe dived, Leeds' behaviour was impeccable. Villa were very fortunate not to be reduced to 8 or 9 players.

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Post by GSC Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:54 am

I think that's fair, but also kicked off as a result of Leeds in the first place.
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Post by westisbest Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:23 am

Duty281 wrote:Fair play? Sportsmanship? Villa didn't show much of that - diving, faking injuries, attacking opposition players, starting a brawl in the technical dugout...disgraceful stuff. With the exception of Bamford, who I believe dived, Leeds' behaviour was impeccable. Villa were very fortunate not to be reduced to 8 or 9 players.

What game were you watching.
Also your comment about Mings being sent off post goal is stupid. He was actually trying to keep the calm.
Down to 8 or 9 players. Wtf.

If Leeds has done the decent thing and put the ball out in the first place. Nothing would of happend. Any team would have been annoyed.

What did you expect would happen. Oh well you didn’t put the ball out for us Leeds, but good goal all the same.
Did you watch the whole game?

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Post by Duty281 Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:09 am

It's not a decent thing to put the ball out just because the opposition player has faked an injury and wants to time waste. The game should only be stopped when the referee blows his whistle.

And yes, Villa were lucky not to have more than one player sent off. They got off very lightly, even more so as Leeds gifted them a goal.

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Post by westisbest Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:12 am

Faked an injury. Kodjia went off injured.
Dear me.

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Post by GSC Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:18 am

The issue is Leeds stopped playing as if they were going to put it out, then played it through as Villa switched off. Not whether they put it out or not initially.
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Post by westisbest Mon May 06, 2019 4:48 am

Well to Norwich and Sheffield united getting promoted.
Onto the play offs.

I’m confident we can go up this season. Playing some great stuff.
Won’t be easy though.

Roll on Saturday, hopefully we can take a win going into the second leg.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed May 15, 2019 1:49 pm

That was absolutely unadulterated Skybet. What an unbelievable 2nd half!
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Post by Marky Thu May 16, 2019 8:09 am

Stop crying Frank Lampard laughing

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Post by GSC Fri May 17, 2019 1:40 am

Pulis has gone.

Coming soon to a PL club in the relegation zone around January
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Post by Duty281 Fri May 17, 2019 5:25 am

GSC wrote:Pulis has gone.

Hopefully into retirement.

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Post by GSC Fri May 17, 2019 6:44 am

Too much money in desperate PL clubs facing the drop
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Post by dyrewolfe Tue May 28, 2019 4:58 am

Duty281 wrote:
GSC wrote:Pulis has gone.

Hopefully into retirement.


We can but hope. But thats another new manager and another season of rebuilding for Boro. Rolling Eyes

We're rapidly becoming like those clubs we used to make fun of, for chopping & changing their managers every couple of years.
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