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Post by LondonTiger on Wed 03 Apr 2019, 11:08 am

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Table
England 2pts (+2.08nrr)
Afghanistan
Australia
Bangladesh
India
New Zealand
Pakistan
Sri Lanka
West Indies
South Africa 0pts (-2.08 nrr)


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Thu, May 30 
10:30 England vs South Africa  (The Oval)

Fri, May 31 
10:30 West Indies vs Pakistan (Trent Bridge)

Sat, Jun 1 
10:30 New Zealand vs Sri Lanka (Cardiff)
13:30 Afghanistan vs Australia (Bristol)

Sun, Jun 2 
10:30 South Africa vs Bangladesh (The Oval)

Mon, Jun 3 
10:30 England vs Pakistan (Trent Bridge)

Tue, Jun 4 
10:30 Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka (Cardiff)

Wed, Jun 5 
10:30 South Africa vs India (Southampton)
13:30 Bangladesh vs New Zealand (The Oval)

Thu, Jun 6 
10:30 Australia vs West Indies (Trent Bridge)

Fri, Jun 7 
10:30 Pakistan vs Sri Lanka (Bristol)

Sat, Jun 8 
10:30 England vs Bangladesh (Cardiff)
13:30 Afghanistan vs New Zealand (Taunton)

Sun, Jun 9 
10:30 Australia vs India (The Oval)

Mon, Jun 10 
10:30 South Africa vs West Indies (Southampton)

Tue, Jun 11 
10:30 Bangladesh vs Sri Lanka (Bristol)

Wed, Jun 12 
10:30 Australia vs Pakistan (Taunton)

Thu, Jun 13 
10:30 India vs New Zealand (Trent Bridge)

Fri, Jun 14 
10:30 England vs West Indies (Southampton)

Sat, Jun 15 
10:30 Australia vs Sri Lanka (The Oval)
13:30 Afghanistan vs South Africa (Cardiff)

Sun, Jun 16 
10:30 India vs Pakistan (Old Trafford)

Mon, Jun 17 
10:30 Bangladesh vs West Indies (Taunton)

Tue, Jun 18 
10:30 England vs Afghanistan (Old Trafford)

Wed, Jun 19 
10:30 New Zealand vs South Africa (Edgbaston)

Thu, Jun 20 
10:30 Australia vs Bangladesh (Trent Bridge)

Fri, Jun 21 
10:30 England vs Sri Lanka (Headingley)

Sat, Jun 22 
10:30 Afghanistan vs India (Southampton)
13:30 New Zealand vs West Indies (Old Trafford)

Sun, Jun 23 
10:30 Pakistan vs South Africa (Lord’s)

Mon, Jun 24 
10:30 Afghanistan vs Bangladesh (Southampton)

Tue, Jun 25 
10:30 England vs Australia (Lord’s)

Wed, Jun 26 
10:30 New Zealand vs Pakistan (Edgbaston)

Thu, Jun 27 
10:30 India vs West Indies (Old Trafford)

Fri, Jun 28 
10:30 South Africa vs Sri Lanka (Edgbaston)

Sat, Jun 29 
10:30 Afghanistan vs Pakistan (Headingley)
13:30 Australia vs New Zealand (Lord’s)

Sun, Jun 30 
10:30 England vs India (Edgbaston)

Mon, Jul 1 
10:30 Sri Lanka vs West Indies (Riverside Ground)

Tue, Jul 2 
10:30 Bangladesh vs India (Edgbaston)

Wed, Jul 3 
10:30 England vs New Zealand (Riverside Ground)

Thu, Jul 4 
10:30 Afghanistan vs West Indies (Headingley)

Fri, Jul 5 
10:30 Bangladesh vs Pakistan (Lord’s)

Sat, Jul 6 
10:30 India vs Sri Lanka (Headingley)
13:30 Australia vs South Africa (Old Trafford)




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Post by Gooseberry on Fri 31 May 2019, 5:48 pm

Apparently Langer has asked crowds not to boo Warner and Smith.
Hmmm......

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Post by msp83 on Fri 31 May 2019, 9:51 pm

Wow! I mean wow! I said the West Indies are quite likely to do well in this tournament. And in the battle of the mercurial, they just destroyed Pakistan. Since the game was at TB and since I had some important work in the evening, though I would catch up in the 2nd half. Checked cricinfo in between and found Pakistan 62-4, and then 83-9!
From what I later caught up and read about, the West Indies quicks kept bowling quick, and short. Pak batsmen had no answers. and that man Christopher Henry of Jamaica decided he could do with some extra rest time and finished it off even before I could come back home and catch up with the match!
Excellent start fro Jason Holder and his team. On full strength, West Indies can still produce such moments from time to time. But a godawful performance is never too far away. Can this lot keep it going for long enough? They are a bit light on spin bowling, else its a pretty rounded unit. There is batting depth and unquestioned power hitting abilities. Led by Oshane Thomas, they have some proper fast bowlers, even Dre Rus is willing his body to deliver some real sharp ones at 145 KPH!

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Post by sirfredperry on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 8:10 am

Gooseberry wrote:Apparently Langer has asked crowds not to boo Warner and Smith.
Hmmm......

Chances of these players getting a good reception:

:: Fat

:: No

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Post by VTR on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 9:06 am

By mentioning it again, it's become headline news and drawing attention to the issue. So it's going to have the opposite effect and basically has served as a reminder to boo them. Great work Mr Langer

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Post by Galted on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 9:10 am

VTR wrote:By mentioning it again, it's become headline news and drawing attention to the issue. So it's going to have the opposite effect and basically has served as a reminder to boo them. Great work Mr Langer

I’m sure that’s the intention, similar to putting a derogatory newspaper article or comment from an opposing player up on the dressing room wall.
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Post by VTR on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 10:07 am

Yes, thinking about it, it seems that it could be an attempt to create a siege mentality, that they will want to carry forward into The Ashes

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Post by Galted on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 10:19 am

“Siege mentality”, those are the words I was looking for.

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Post by Pal Joey on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 10:23 am

Galted wrote:
VTR wrote:By mentioning it again, it's become headline news and drawing attention to the issue. So it's going to have the opposite effect and basically has served as a reminder to boo them. Great work Mr Langer

I’m sure that’s the intention, similar to putting a derogatory newspaper article or comment from an opposing player up on the dressing room wall.

Something like this you mean?

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Post by Galted on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 10:27 am

Laugh

The tabloids can always be trusted to do their bit for England’s opponents.

I’m sure Warner especially can’t wait for the SA game after all the sh*t he put up with.
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Post by Pal Joey on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 10:30 am

Had to dig waaay back to find that little gem. Laugh

Langer is a tool if he said that. I'm hoping it was twisted out of context and blown out of proportion.
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Post by Duty281 on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 10:44 am

Nice green top at Cardiff for the Kiwis against Sri Lanka, a very tough batting surface.

Sri Lanka 12/1.

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 11:27 am

Sri Lanka's batsmen really struggling with the seam movement. New Zealand's bowlers keeping a broadly good, accurate line. 53/4.

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 11:47 am

60/6. NZ's seamers exploiting the conditions perfectly and Sri Lanka have no answer. Game over.

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Post by VTR on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 11:47 am

Another match shaping up to be a load of rubbish from a neutral perspective

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 11:51 am

Bring back the 350-400 pitches this is Poopie
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Post by KP_fan on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 12:43 pm

NZ-Lanka Game view so far

-116-8 are Lanka in half the overs..and haven't surprised.
I have a feeling Pak & Lanka will finish below BD & Afg.....where the latter two seem more organized, hungry and dosed more with Adrenalin to push & prove & show their skills on the biggest stage.

-NZ's chinks are visible....they have a great top 3 pacers....and then the quality of bowling drops significantly.
Neesham & Grandhomme....don't look like wanting to bowl more than 120-125kph and very mediocre

The shocker is Santner....whom I remember having seen in India a few years back as a classical SLA, who could bat too....another Vettori in the making

Now he has lost his action, doesn't pivot.....cannot flight...and I wonder lookin at his action if he is trying to perpetually bowl chinamen Shocked
whatever it is......he is rubbish....and NZ need to play Astle, Sodhi or whoever they have as their second spinner in the squad.
To me NZ looks on par with SA

-Eng looked Good with their 6 bowlers attack...and Ind's strength is their 5 man attack with Jadhav as a handy 6th bowler if he is fit by 8th June.
Looking forward to watching Aus in action soon

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 1:19 pm

VTR wrote:Another match shaping up to be a load of rubbish from a neutral perspective

Might have to wait till Tuesday (Afghanistan v Sri Lanka) for the first close contest of the tournament!

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Post by VTR on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 1:33 pm

Yes, this is rubbish again. All the talk of 500 being made, let's start with 200, that would be nice. Even if SL vs Afghanistan is close, it has the feel of a wooden spoon match, so not exactly going to set pulses racing

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 1:42 pm

Afghanistan 5/2. Looks like another tonking on the cards. Long tail for the Afghans too, so 200 will be tough!

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Post by VTR on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 1:48 pm

With Starc and Cummins steaming in, the tail starts at 1!

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 2:54 pm

New Zealand win by 10 wickets with over 200 balls remaining! I expected Sri Lanka to be terrible at this tournament, but that first game was a very low bar. Expecting the Afghans to knock them over on Tuesday.

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Post by alfie on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 3:19 pm

Trouble with ODIs...if one side gets knocked over cheaply the game rather dies on its feet. Suppose that is why the organizers love playing on roads. Not that I relish watching Sri Lanka trying to chase down 400 either...

Hopefully just luck of the draw that all these early games have been mismatches and we will see some contests as we get going. Otherwise it is going to be a long qualifying round - even though restricting the thing to the top ten teams was intended to eliminate the "minnows" devil

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 3:45 pm

Afghanistan have the potential to become a very good side but they need to learn how to rotate the strike better. They are capable of smashing boundaries at will but so many dot balls. 80 out of 134 currently hammered in boundaries

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Post by alfie on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 4:36 pm

Spirited effort by the Afghans to get over 200 at least. Not that I'd expect Australia to have too much trouble chasing it down ; but it represents a good recovery from 77/5.
And gives the public something to watch , Rashid a chance to have a decent bowl , and the Aussies to get some time in the middle...

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Post by KP_fan on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 4:40 pm

Half Time View
-Aus was decidedly superior and Afg lacking the technique to handle pace......& yet they fought with pluck & determination, mind over material flaws...to scrap & muster up 209.....more than what SA got vs Eng and 42 of those in 2 overs.

Hearty effort but they will surely lose.......only a matter of can they pluck some wickets & stretch Aus.
Afg have two wonderful spinners but even they need a 250+ to work with,

-On Aus composition....their 3 seamers are fast & good...and their 4 their allrounder 4th seamer Stonis seems to have improved....added half a yard of pace too.

I don't think Zampa though is a better pick than Lyon....far more inconsistent and is in only because perception is "Leggies are better wicket takers" Doh
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Post by Duty281 on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 4:59 pm

Credible effort from Afghanistan. They almost certainly don't have enough, but they haven't been humiliated. Wonder if Rashid Khan can get the Aussies worried?

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Post by msp83 on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 5:35 pm

New Zealand utterly smashed a listless Sri Lanka, no real surprises there, Sri Lanka has been poor for a while across all departments. NZ has been a top ODI side for some time... On-sided game, but better than a side getting 400 and the other plodding along to 300 -7... At least it gets over early, and there is some spectacle when the ball flys around a bit.

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Post by msp83 on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 5:44 pm

Afghanistan managed a decent total, but should be a walk for Australia as the openers have already given them a good platform. Could have been so much better and worse for Afghanistan. They have done well to recover from 5-2 and 77-5 to 205. But at 160-5 in about 30 overs with 2 set batsmen in the middle, they should have made at least 250. The skipper himself played a pretty poor and unnecessary shot to let things slip from that point, and Naip should reflect on that moment that may have ruined his sides's chances of a more competitive game.

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 7:21 pm

Australia cruise home by seven wickets. Warner, ominously perhaps, finding his touch with an unbeaten 89.

Four games, four demolitions.

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Post by Gooseberry on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 8:47 pm

I'm glad I had something else to do today.
The one sided nature of these games is quite a thing.

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Post by VTR on Sat 01 Jun 2019, 11:49 pm

I would personally rather 400 plays 300 than ever see anything like those Pakistan and SL performances. At least if one team racks up 400 you don't definitely know the result after one innings, also its good to have matches that actually last more than 50 overs in total

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Post by Duty281 on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 10:27 am

South Africa put Bangladesh in to bat. Let's hope for a contest!

Weather looks pretty dismal for Tuesday through to Saturday, so we could see some disruptions to this...um... great festival of cricket.

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 11:10 am

Bangladesh slogging freely against a rather inept South African opening pair. 58-0 off 8 overs, Souma in particular smashing everything.

South Africa look like a old faded side

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 11:12 am

Phehlukwayo gets Tamim with surprising bounce for a medium pacer

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 11:29 am

Morris bounces out Soumya but it was all down to the marvellous catch by de Kock. 75-2

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Post by Duty281 on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 12:03 pm

South Africa looking awful. Incredibly sloppy in the field and largely ineffective bowling. Bangladesh playing solid. Good partnership developing between Shakib and Mushfiqur with plenty of strike rotation.

124/2 after 20. Bangladesh bat deep, down to 9, so they should be looking for something in excess of 300.

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Post by guildfordbat on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 12:20 pm

Only following now and again on cricinfo but Bangadesh seem very well placed on 160/2 after 25 overs. If they get to 20 overs remaining with 8 wickets still in hand, they should be looking at 330 minimum.

In line with Duty's posts, SA don't seem to have a full team. Certainly a bowler / all rounder short. I've never been keen on Morris since his ordinary showings for Surrey,


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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 12:22 pm

Ngidi has a hamstring injury. South Africa better start packing their bags

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Post by KP_fan on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 12:27 pm

finally we have a game on & by the look of match situation BD is favorite & bet365 still offers ( till about 5 min back) 2.2 return on BD and only 1.66 on SA Shocked
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Post by Duty281 on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 12:30 pm

I would make Bangladesh favourites from here. They should make at least 330, probably 350+, which will be a very tough ask for a South African batting order missing Amla and with a long tail (Ngidi might also not be able to bat).

Looking like the four semi-finalists will be Eng/Ind/Aus/NZ.

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Post by KP_fan on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 12:33 pm

Duty281 wrote:I would make Bangladesh favourites from here. They should make at least 330, probably 350+, which will be a very tough ask for a South African batting order missing Amla and with a long tail (Ngidi might also not be able to bat).

seems so, I put 5$ on them juts at about 2.1

Looking like the four semi-finalists will be Eng/Ind/Aus/NZ.
Too early......look back at 1992 ....this format offers a BIG chance to regroup and fight back
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Post by alfie on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 12:35 pm

Not calling the match yet...Bangladesh look on for a very good score but I'm not sure their bowlers will be able to dominate : could be quite an interesting high scoring contest.
SA have serious problems balancing their team : they just don't have a real all rounder.

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Post by guildfordbat on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 12:35 pm

guildfordbat wrote:Only following now and again on cricinfo but Bangadesh seem very well placed on 160/2 after 25 overs. If they get to 20 overs remaining with 8 wickets still in hand, they should be looking at 330 minimum.

In line with Duty's posts, SA don't seem to have a full team. Certainly a bowler / all rounder short. I've never been keen on Morris since his ordinary showings for Surrey,

And that was before Ngidi's confirmed injury! It must be extremely unlikely that he'll return to bowl in this game. Assuming he doesn't, it leaves Markram and Duminy (plus perhaps anyone else) having to bowl 6 overs between them to make up Ngidi's 10. That also assumes the other 4 frontline bowlers (which is being generous to some, looking at you Morris!) will each bowl 10.

This is a real chance for Bangladesh - they need to make it count.

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Post by alfie on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 12:39 pm

Duty281 wrote:I would make Bangladesh favourites from here. They should make at least 330, probably 350+, which will be a very tough ask for a South African batting order missing Amla and with a long tail (Ngidi might also not be able to bat).

Looking like the four semi-finalists will be Eng/Ind/Aus/NZ.

That's an early call ! Those four have been my predicted semi finalists all along but there is a lot of cricket to be played yet. Sure to be a surprise result or two somewhere and rain may play a part.

West Indies could turn out to be the best of the outsiders ; though I'm not sure they'll have the consistency required.

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Post by Duty281 on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 12:49 pm

alfie wrote:Not calling the match yet...Bangladesh look on for a very good score but I'm not sure their bowlers will be able to dominate : could be quite an interesting high scoring contest.
SA have serious problems balancing their team : they just don't have a real all rounder.

Yes, I'm not wholly convinced by the Bangladesh bowlers, so I think it's vital their batters take them past 350, which should be an insurmountable total.

200/2, 18 overs left.

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Post by Nathaniel Jacobs on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 12:57 pm

Ngidi done for this match with damaged hamstring

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Post by alfie on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 1:01 pm

At 215/2 Bangladesh have a huge chance of pushing this past 350 - still sixteen overs left and some of those to be bowled by part timers...

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Post by alfie on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 1:11 pm

Tahir breaks through...and sets off on a lap of the Oval...

Understatement to say SA needed that ! Shakib's was a fine innings but the new man will have to get set now.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 1:28 pm

Bangladesh in danger of cocking this up a bit now
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Post by Duty281 on Sun 02 Jun 2019, 1:28 pm

Couple of wickets for Tahir, 242/4 now. Thoughts of 350 can probably be put away.

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