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ICC Cricket World Cup - Part 2
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Table
Pool Fixtures
Thu, May 30
10:30 England vsSouth Africa (The Oval)
Fri, May 31
10:30 West Indies vsPakistan (Trent Bridge)
Sat, Jun 1
10:30 New Zealand vsSri Lanka (Cardiff)
13:30Afghanistan vs Australia (Bristol)
Sun, Jun 2
10:30South Africa vs Bangladesh (The Oval)
Mon, Jun 3
10:30England vs Pakistan (Trent Bridge)
Tue, Jun 4
10:30Afghanistan vs Sri Lanka (Cardiff)
Wed, Jun 5
10:30South Africa vs India (Southampton)
13:30Bangladesh vs New Zealand (The Oval)
Thu, Jun 6
10:30 Australia vsWest Indies (Trent Bridge)
Fri, Jun 7
10:30 Pakistan vs Sri Lanka (Bristol)
Sat, Jun 8
10:30 England vsBangladesh (Cardiff)
13:30Afghanistan vs New Zealand (Taunton)
Sun, Jun 9
10:30Australia vs India (The Oval)
Mon, Jun 10
10:30 South Africa vs West Indies (Southampton)
Tue, Jun 11
10:30 Bangladesh vs Sri Lanka (Bristol)
Wed, Jun 12
10:30 Australia vsPakistan (Taunton)
Thu, Jun 13
10:30 India vs New Zealand (Trent Bridge)
Fri, Jun 14
10:30 England vsWest Indies (Southampton)
Sat, Jun 15
10:30 Australia vsSri Lanka (The Oval)
13:30Afghanistan vs South Africa (Cardiff)
Sun, Jun 16
10:30 India vsPakistan (Old Trafford)
Mon, Jun 17
10:30 Bangladesh vsWest Indies (Taunton)
Tue, Jun 18
10:30 England vsAfghanistan (Old Trafford)
Wed, Jun 19
10:30 New Zealand vsSouth Africa (Edgbaston)
Thu, Jun 20
10:30 Australia vs Bangladesh (Trent Bridge)
Fri, Jun 21
10:30 England vs Sri Lanka (Headingley)
Sat, Jun 22
10:30 Afghanistan vs India (Southampton)
13:30 New Zealand vs West Indies (Old Trafford)
Sun, Jun 23
10:30 Pakistan vs South Africa (Lord’s)
Mon, Jun 24
10:30 Afghanistan vs Bangladesh (Southampton)
Tue, Jun 25
10:30 England vs Australia (Lord’s)
Wed, Jun 26
10:30 New Zealand vs Pakistan (Edgbaston)
Thu, Jun 27
10:30 India vs West Indies (Old Trafford)
Fri, Jun 28
10:30 South Africa vs Sri Lanka (Edgbaston)
Sat, Jun 29
10:30 Afghanistan vs Pakistan (Headingley)
13:30 Australia vs New Zealand (Lord’s)
Sun, Jun 30
10:30 England vs India (Edgbaston)
Mon, Jul 1
10:30 Sri Lanka vs West Indies (Riverside Ground)
Tue, Jul 2
10:30 Bangladesh vs India (Edgbaston)
Wed, Jul 3
10:30 England vs New Zealand (Riverside Ground)
Thu, Jul 4
10:30 Afghanistan vs West Indies (Headingley)
Fri, Jul 5
10:30 Bangladesh vs Pakistan (Lord’s)
Sat, Jul 6
10:30 India vs Sri Lanka (Headingley)
13:30 Australia vs South Africa (Old Trafford)
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New Zealand | 5 | 9 | 1.591 |
England | 5 | 8 | 1.862 |
Australia | 5 | 8 | 0.812 |
India | 4 | 7 | 1.029 |
Bangladesh | 5 | 5 | -0.27 |
Sri Lanka | 5 | 4 | -1.778 |
West Indies | 5 | 3 | 0.272 |
South Africa | 5 | 3 | -0.193 |
Pakistan | 5 | 3 | -1.933 |
Afghanistan | 5 | 0 | -2.089 |
Thu, May 30
10:30 England vs
Fri, May 31
10:30 West Indies vs
Sat, Jun 1
10:30 New Zealand vs
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Sun, Jun 2
10:30
Mon, Jun 3
10:30
Tue, Jun 4
10:30
Wed, Jun 5
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Thu, Jun 6
10:30 Australia vs
Fri, Jun 7
10:30 Pakistan vs Sri Lanka (Bristol)
Sat, Jun 8
10:30 England vs
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Sun, Jun 9
10:30
Mon, Jun 10
10:30 South Africa vs West Indies (Southampton)
Tue, Jun 11
10:30 Bangladesh vs Sri Lanka (Bristol)
Wed, Jun 12
10:30 Australia vs
Thu, Jun 13
10:30 India vs New Zealand (Trent Bridge)
Fri, Jun 14
10:30 England vs
Sat, Jun 15
10:30 Australia vs
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Sun, Jun 16
10:30 India vs
Mon, Jun 17
10:30 Bangladesh vs
Tue, Jun 18
10:30 England vs
Wed, Jun 19
10:30 New Zealand vs
Thu, Jun 20
10:30 Australia vs Bangladesh (Trent Bridge)
Fri, Jun 21
10:30 England vs Sri Lanka (Headingley)
Sat, Jun 22
10:30 Afghanistan vs India (Southampton)
13:30 New Zealand vs West Indies (Old Trafford)
Sun, Jun 23
10:30 Pakistan vs South Africa (Lord’s)
Mon, Jun 24
10:30 Afghanistan vs Bangladesh (Southampton)
Tue, Jun 25
10:30 England vs Australia (Lord’s)
Wed, Jun 26
10:30 New Zealand vs Pakistan (Edgbaston)
Thu, Jun 27
10:30 India vs West Indies (Old Trafford)
Fri, Jun 28
10:30 South Africa vs Sri Lanka (Edgbaston)
Sat, Jun 29
10:30 Afghanistan vs Pakistan (Headingley)
13:30 Australia vs New Zealand (Lord’s)
Sun, Jun 30
10:30 England vs India (Edgbaston)
Mon, Jul 1
10:30 Sri Lanka vs West Indies (Riverside Ground)
Tue, Jul 2
10:30 Bangladesh vs India (Edgbaston)
Wed, Jul 3
10:30 England vs New Zealand (Riverside Ground)
Thu, Jul 4
10:30 Afghanistan vs West Indies (Headingley)
Fri, Jul 5
10:30 Bangladesh vs Pakistan (Lord’s)
Sat, Jul 6
10:30 India vs Sri Lanka (Headingley)
13:30 Australia vs South Africa (Old Trafford)
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Good stats on TMS about just how much Plunkett and Wood have turned things around from the West Indies tour on. Both were the two whos selection was considered under threat, but this summer theyve been englands best wicket takers.
Rashid who we all felt was the one player england couldnt replace has been anonymous. Woakes who has been the leading wicket taker in world ODIs in the opening overs has been rubbish at the world cup till today)
Rashid who we all felt was the one player england couldnt replace has been anonymous. Woakes who has been the leading wicket taker in world ODIs in the opening overs has been rubbish at the world cup till today)
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Gooseberry wrote:Pal Joey wrote:Hope fading for the Windies.
Please stick to make jokes about Wood and Willey
OK I'll Holder off from making any Pooran puns then.
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Hetmyer really wants to get after Wood...but he's bowling too well at the moment.
England must be hopeful of more wickets here . Wood four overs 1/6 !
England must be hopeful of more wickets here . Wood four overs 1/6 !
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West Indies have just got to get as close to 260-270 as they can. Almost certainly won't be enough, but it'll give their bowlers some hope.
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Bit surprised to see Rashid into the attack ? Pacemen doing so well ; but I guess it is a reasonable idea to see what he can do on this . Will give them a lot of flexibility if he can get a good spell going now .
Still fancy they ought to push for wickets , whoever is bowling.
Still fancy they ought to push for wickets , whoever is bowling.
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Decent fightback ...Pooran is not exactly the biggest star in the West Indies side but hes scoring well.
Rashids getting a bit of a spanking and not producing chances.
Rashids getting a bit of a spanking and not producing chances.
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All a bit sedate out there from England. Need to bring back Woakes and Wood for a few overs.
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Kind of time Moeen would come on to calm things down
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Yes the Rashid experiment seems to have released a bit of pressure. Taking Wood off at the same time might have been a mistake. These two are bringing WI back into it ; slowly at first but now ticking it over quite well.
England could do with another break. Bring back one of the quicks....
England could do with another break. Bring back one of the quicks....
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Bit of a farce there!
Root thought hed taken a wicket and confused the hell out of the umpires
Root thought hed taken a wicket and confused the hell out of the umpires
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Gooseberry wrote:Kind of time Moeen would come on to calm things down
Actually slightly surprised Rashid plays this one rather than Moeen. Mainly a day for the fast men but with a few left handers in the WI lineup the off spinner might have been a reasonable choice.
Think they are keen to get Rashid "into " the tournament , after a slow start for him.
Anyway here's number two off spinner , Root...
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*Sigh* England continuing with spin. Both ends now. This partnership very comfortable and growing in confidence. England need their 90 MPH bowlers on.
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To be honest I don't think Pooran has picked Rashid at all, especially his googly - Rashid just not quite got them in the right area yet...albeit this is a better over
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That is the softest of soft dismissals from Hetmyer
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Duty281 wrote:*Sigh* England continuing with spin. Both ends now. This partnership very comfortable and growing in confidence. England need their 90 MPH bowlers on.
Well done me. Well done Joe Root. Poor from Hetmyer.
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alfie wrote:Gooseberry wrote:Kind of time Moeen would come on to calm things down
Actually slightly surprised Rashid plays this one rather than Moeen. Mainly a day for the fast men but with a few left handers in the WI lineup the off spinner might have been a reasonable choice.
Think they are keen to get Rashid "into " the tournament , after a slow start for him.
Anyway here's number two off spinner , Root...
Kind of feel we are now seeing why it was the right decision.
the combination of Rashid + and off spinner works. It just ties teams down. Root can do the job almost as well as Moeen and Moeens batting has been a problem for England. Rashid offers a theoretcical wicket taking threat and variation that noone else can.
Hetmeyer out as I type. Never doubt englands selections!
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Better over from Rashid. Morgan certainly has plenty of options for the last twenty now...
But I can't help thinking England have given back some advantage by rather allowing ths pair to settle.
What do I know ? Root strikes
Hetmyer gone ...useful 42 but at 144/4 WI would have hoped for more...
But I can't help thinking England have given back some advantage by rather allowing ths pair to settle.
What do I know ? Root strikes
Hetmyer gone ...useful 42 but at 144/4 WI would have hoped for more...
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Duty281 wrote:*Sigh* England continuing with spin. Both ends now. This partnership very comfortable and growing in confidence. England need their 90 MPH bowlers on.
Gonna stick your opinions in the same bin as KPFs
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Roy to bat at 7. Doesnt sound serious and they likely wont be facing much of total. Wont affect England unduly and it might be nice to see what Roy can do at the death!
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More bad batting than good bowling though. Hetmyer should have been happy to milk the spinners for the easy 7-8 runs per over they were offering, rather than trying to launch the ball into the stratosphere.
Anyway, England well on top again. Long-ish tail for the Windies.
Anyway, England well on top again. Long-ish tail for the Windies.
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Wicket always changes things.
Lot depends on this partnership now. They get going this could still be a challenging total. Quick break could see the innings fold up.
I'd still have Archer or Wood back now for a couple.
Lot depends on this partnership now. They get going this could still be a challenging total. Quick break could see the innings fold up.
I'd still have Archer or Wood back now for a couple.
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After 30 overs you'd take 144/4. West Indies will be looking to double to 290 at least, but if England can keep taking wickets then they could really restrict that.
Roy might not be able to bat in the top 6, they're saying on TMS. I'd be tempted with a pinch-hitter, maybe Plunkett coming up the order? Then you can use Roy as a lower-order hitter if they need someone to help them get over the line. Plunkett won't be hitting 150s like Roy might, but we won't have to promote Root to open. If we go with Bairstow and Root and one of them goes early, then it might get a bit twitchy.
Roy might not be able to bat in the top 6, they're saying on TMS. I'd be tempted with a pinch-hitter, maybe Plunkett coming up the order? Then you can use Roy as a lower-order hitter if they need someone to help them get over the line. Plunkett won't be hitting 150s like Roy might, but we won't have to promote Root to open. If we go with Bairstow and Root and one of them goes early, then it might get a bit twitchy.
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Get Buttler to open. He loves taking the short ball on.
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Duty281 wrote:More bad batting than good bowling though. Hetmyer should have been happy to milk the spinners for the easy 7-8 runs per over they were offering, rather than trying to launch the ball into the stratosphere.
Anyway, England well on top again. Long-ish tail for the Windies.
The spinners had them tied down and had slowed the rate in tandem.
4 balls in the over before the wicket went for 3
The previous over just 2 runs
Roots first over just 2 runs
Stokes last over had gone for 12. He was bowling speeds up to 91mph.
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6 then Holder out to Root.
Get the quicks on
Get the quicks on
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That's cheap as well. 250 now looks remote.
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Joe the wrecker ! Root with another c&b ...very similar dismissal to Hetmyer.
He can give 'em all one six if he gets them next ball
He can give 'em all one six if he gets them next ball
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That is just a disgustingly village wicket from Root
Roy confirmed he cannot bat higher than 7 due to not being able to field for the rest of the innings - makes sense to have Buttler open imo
Roy confirmed he cannot bat higher than 7 due to not being able to field for the rest of the innings - makes sense to have Buttler open imo
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Its a question now for West Indies whether they just try to bat out the overs or still pitch for a defendable target. How much do they believe in their pace attack?
It seems holder was maybe having a bit of a disagreement on that as he went off.
the wheels may be coming off for the West Indies here in what we all agreed was pretty much a must win fixture for them. Something about pressure KPF?
It seems holder was maybe having a bit of a disagreement on that as he went off.
the wheels may be coming off for the West Indies here in what we all agreed was pretty much a must win fixture for them. Something about pressure KPF?
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Duty281 wrote:Get Buttler to open. He loves taking the short ball on.
This is probably a better idea. Does Buttler open in T20? He's top 3 at least.
Bairstow, Buttler, Root, Morgan, Stokes looks strong enough. Woakes at 6 is a bit of a worry but then you've got Roy in at 7 on one leg to hit it out the park.
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Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:That is just a disgustingly village wicket from Root
Roy confirmed he cannot bat higher than 7 due to not being able to field for the rest of the innings - makes sense to have Buttler open imo
Agnew reckons it was a legit disguised arm ball. It certainly bamboozled Holder.
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Gooseberry wrote:Duty281 wrote:More bad batting than good bowling though. Hetmyer should have been happy to milk the spinners for the easy 7-8 runs per over they were offering, rather than trying to launch the ball into the stratosphere.
Anyway, England well on top again. Long-ish tail for the Windies.
The spinners had them tied down and had slowed the rate in tandem.
4 balls in the over before the wicket went for 3
The previous over just 2 runs
Roots first over just 2 runs
Stokes last over had gone for 12. He was bowling speeds up to 91mph.
Slightly slanted summary , Goose
Yes , there were a couple of tight overs ...which indeed contributed to the wicket. But before that spin had proved a bit expensive. Think one could argue either way ...and either might work.
We are where we are. Still like to see Rashid get on the scoreboard for his confidence .
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Fiddling a few overs off Root as part of the fifth bowler combination is certainly going well!
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If they aren't chasing a huge score why not open with Woakes ? He has a decent technique and it wouldn't mess up the rest of the order ?
Of course it might get one of the key bowlers maimed by a bouncer
Of course it might get one of the key bowlers maimed by a bouncer
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Root turning over that golden arm once again.
I remember Root playing for Sheffield Collegiate way back when he was a youngster playing up into the mens teams. He was the same then with his bowling. Walked in, turned his arm over with that questionable side arm action and limited spin. He'd rush through overs though, seeming innocuous, then bam, a wicket or two from nowhere.
It will be interesting to see who opens with Bairstow. Buttler is the obvious choice but that takes away their golden ticket down the order.
I remember Root playing for Sheffield Collegiate way back when he was a youngster playing up into the mens teams. He was the same then with his bowling. Walked in, turned his arm over with that questionable side arm action and limited spin. He'd rush through overs though, seeming innocuous, then bam, a wicket or two from nowhere.
It will be interesting to see who opens with Bairstow. Buttler is the obvious choice but that takes away their golden ticket down the order.
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VTR wrote:Fiddling a few overs off Root as part of the fifth bowler combination is certainly going well!
4 overs for 18 runs and 2 wickets so far...personally I'd quit whilst ahead there if I were Morgan
On no...Russell dropped off Rashid by Woakes, a huge miss! Rashid really isn't having much luck this tournament is he?
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alfie wrote:Gooseberry wrote:Duty281 wrote:More bad batting than good bowling though. Hetmyer should have been happy to milk the spinners for the easy 7-8 runs per over they were offering, rather than trying to launch the ball into the stratosphere.
Anyway, England well on top again. Long-ish tail for the Windies.
The spinners had them tied down and had slowed the rate in tandem.
4 balls in the over before the wicket went for 3
The previous over just 2 runs
Roots first over just 2 runs
Stokes last over had gone for 12. He was bowling speeds up to 91mph.
Slightly slanted summary , Goose
Yes , there were a couple of tight overs ...which indeed contributed to the wicket. But before that spin had proved a bit expensive. Think one could argue either way ...and either might work.
We are where we are. Still like to see Rashid get on the scoreboard for his confidence .
Not in tandem though which is what I was referring to. As soon as Root came on they suddenly started struggling against Rashid too. Stokes had started to go for even more than Rashid had.
Im not denying that Rashid got creamed, quite the opposite. Its the spinner combination that has worked well for England in recent years and proven to be an excellent piece of captaincy ....
unlike Woakes' catching
Second HOWLER from england in the field.
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Aargh ! Woakes drops a steepler ...poor Rashid. And now the next one goes for six...
Couple of errors in the field today for England , this one's already cost 14 in four balls...
Couple of errors in the field today for England , this one's already cost 14 in four balls...
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Gamble now with Russel who's decided to go after them. Do they hope he screws up again or switch out?
I think one more Root then is the time for pace.
I think one more Root then is the time for pace.
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Rashid will start wondering when the fielders will catch them of his bowling. Is this the 3rd relatively easy catch shelled off him in the WC?
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Rashid will be feeling frosty towards Chris Woakes after that drop followed by two sixes from Russell.
Russell has hurt himself with that second six though. A real shame if he has to go off.
This partnership is the remaining threat for the Windies batting.
Russell has hurt himself with that second six though. A real shame if he has to go off.
This partnership is the remaining threat for the Windies batting.
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king_carlos wrote:Rashid will be feeling frosty towards Chris Woakes after that drop followed by two sixes from Russell.
Russell has hurt himself with that second six though. A real shame if he has to go off.
This partnership is the remaining threat for the Windies batting.
After the roasting Woakes gave Wood earlier too!
Both bowlers havent had much luck at all in the cup so far, but managed to look dangerous at times.
Russell looks like he can hardly walk ...not sure we will see him bowl. Fielding might be a stretch for him.
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LondonTiger wrote:Rashid will start wondering when the fielders will catch them of his bowling. Is this the 3rd relatively easy catch shelled off him in the WC?
He was done by the heavy bails/stumps once as well.
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Wood back on as predicted.
Top edge ctach. Make me captain
Russell should not be playing, it shows just how much Windies need this win.
Its not an ideal pitch for batting, so anything 250 plus gives West Indies a chance if they keep their heads. The problem is they just dont seem able to bat sensibly, plus youd expect their attack to chuck a few extras
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Russell should not be playing, it shows just how much Windies need this win.
Its not an ideal pitch for batting, so anything 250 plus gives West Indies a chance if they keep their heads. The problem is they just dont seem able to bat sensibly, plus youd expect their attack to chuck a few extras
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Thankfully as with the Gayle drop not too costly. 250 looking a long way off now
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Thankfully as with the Gayle drop not too costly. 250 looking a long way off now
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Gooseberry wrote:LondonTiger wrote:Rashid will start wondering when the fielders will catch them of his bowling. Is this the 3rd relatively easy catch shelled off him in the WC?
He was done by the heavy bails/stumps once as well.
Yep that was it - two sitters catch wise, and an actual bowled that didn't knock off the bails. Hopefully he's using up all his bad luck early!
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Second time lucky for Woakes ! Caught it for Wood (sorry , Rashid )
188/6. England right on top now. Wood having a fine day (apart from dropping Gayle)
188/6. England right on top now. Wood having a fine day (apart from dropping Gayle)
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Very ok with Cottrell getting a salute when/if England get him out.
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Re: ICC Cricket World Cup - Part 2
Gooseberry wrote:king_carlos wrote:Rashid will be feeling frosty towards Chris Woakes after that drop followed by two sixes from Russell.
Russell has hurt himself with that second six though. A real shame if he has to go off.
This partnership is the remaining threat for the Windies batting.
After the roasting Woakes gave Wood earlier too!
Both bowlers havent had much luck at all in the cup so far, but managed to look dangerous at times.
Russell looks like he can hardly walk ...not sure we will see him bowl. Fielding might be a stretch for him.
And gone.
If Russell can't bowl, they need 50 from Gabriel, Thomas, Cottrell, Brathwaite and Holder. Can anyone else chip in? Any part time spin?
Still a bowling job to do for England, but if England can ride the opening barrage then West Indies don't have loads of options.
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