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Post by LondonTiger Fri 21 Jun 2019, 2:26 pm

First topic message reminder :

Table

Australia8141.00
India7110.85
New Zealand8110.57
England8101.00
Pakistan89-0.80
Sri Lanka88-0.93
Bangladesh77-0.13
South Africa85-0.08
West Indies83-0.36
Afghanistan80-1.42
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Tue, Jul 2 
10:30 Bangladesh vs India (Edgbaston)

Wed, Jul 3 
10:30 England vs New Zealand (Riverside Ground)

Thu, Jul 4 
10:30 Afghanistan vs West Indies (Headingley)

Fri, Jul 5 
10:30 Bangladesh vs Pakistan (Lord’s)

Sat, Jul 6 
10:30 India vs Sri Lanka (Headingley)
13:30 Australia vs South Africa (Old Trafford)




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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 2:52 pm

That's all for this one I'm afraid folks
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Post by Duty281 Tue 25 Jun 2019, 2:52 pm

Ooof, that's a big wicket. Root plumb. England not playing this new ball period sensibly.

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Post by alfie Tue 25 Jun 2019, 2:57 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:That's all for this one I'm afraid folks

Not looking good , is it ? I fear another WC disaster is heading England's way. Would be nice if NZ can do them a favour tomorrow but the way they're playing I am not at all confident of qualification. Which really will be a blow for the country after all the priority on white ball cricket and brilliant lead in...

Game isn't completely gone of course ...Buttler and Morgan could get these on their own. But it doesn't feel like that sort of day...

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Post by VTR Tue 25 Jun 2019, 3:00 pm

Yeah, there's still a theorical chance but the team look mentally shot at the moment. I think Roy is a huge loss, Vince as the replacement is an early wicket every time which gives the bowlers more confidence. Moeen is woeful at 7 at the minute as well so the long batting lineup doesn't worry the opposition

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Post by eirebilly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 3:07 pm

England are gone. 3 wickets in the first 6 overs. Australia certainly showing England how to use the new ball and Cummins is still to come...
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Post by BamBam Tue 25 Jun 2019, 3:09 pm

Its the hope that hurts picard picard

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 3:12 pm

BamBam wrote:Its the hope that hurts picard picard

In hindsight we all should've seen the "crashing out of the group stage after being world number 1 and favourites" coming - it's the most England thing ever.
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 25 Jun 2019, 3:13 pm

Vince can go away now, yeah? Dunno why you look at his game, the weaknesses in it and go "well, his struggles will clearly be hidden by batting up the order."

Hales twiddling his thumbs

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Post by alfie Tue 25 Jun 2019, 3:14 pm

Mentally shot seems a fair description. That loss to Sri Lanka was a body blow. Morgan said he was relaxed and confident after the game : but the look on his face as he watched the collapse said he was lying.
Wouldn't honestly have thought the loss of one batsman and a bit of pressure could derail the team who had dominated the last couple of years. But it is looking like the mother of all falls from grace .

Of course even losing today still leaves destiny in their own hands ; but beating India and NZ is looking a tall order given the way they're playing.

Anyway I think I will give up this negative posting as I just haven't got Trebell's touch Smile

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Post by alfie Tue 25 Jun 2019, 3:18 pm

eirebilly wrote:England are gone. 3 wickets in the first 6 overs. Australia certainly showing England how to use the new ball and Cummins is still to come...

Well they've pitched the bloody thing up , haven't they ? Beyond me why Archer and Wood didn't think it might be worth testing the Aussie openers with swinging full deliveries at 90 plus...

England really haven't played smart cricket lately.

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Post by eirebilly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 3:18 pm

Ha Alfie, was just thinking about Trebell. Boy do England need him now Smile
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Post by eirebilly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 3:35 pm

England need these 2 to put on another 120-150 to have any hope in this game and possibly tournament. A defining partnership so to speak and in fairness, these 2 are capable of it.
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 25 Jun 2019, 3:43 pm

They certainly did need it. YJB reaches for one and it's over

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Post by eirebilly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 3:43 pm

Bairstow throws his wicket away. Good night Irene.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 3:44 pm

that's a disgustingly poor dismissal
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Post by Duty281 Tue 25 Jun 2019, 3:45 pm

Some very poor shots have cost England. Bairstow was looking in control, then he decides to gift his wicket.

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Post by eirebilly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 3:49 pm

A Buttler special is required now. I want so much to have hope but Australia are just a better team.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:02 pm

god I hope we don't have to put up with Michael Slater all summer
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Post by robbo277 Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:08 pm

We're not quite at the stage of needing miracles as we still have two capable bats in, a lot of time and a decent tail. But if England dug this one out it would go down as one of the great World Cup performances - the kind that gets replayed in rain delays on Sky for years to come.

Australia going back to Cummins, they want to keep their strike bowlers on and want to put England beyond a point they can come back from. England have to remind themselves there's at least 10 of Maxwell and Stoinis to come and if they can stick in through this spell they can cash in against the 5th bowling options and catch up a bit there.

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Post by eirebilly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:09 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:god I hope we don't have to put up with Michael Slater all summer

He grates me. Its as if he is trying to try so hard to put on that Aussie accent.
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Post by eirebilly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:13 pm

What do they say, it usually takes Jos Buttler 20 balls to get going?
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Post by Afro Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:15 pm

We're going to win this.....
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Post by alfie Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:19 pm

eirebilly wrote:Ha Alfie, was just thinking about Trebell. Boy do England need him now Smile

I actually saw him - or someone using the same handle - on BBC comments the other day. Blest if I know where he's got to on here...

Not sure even he cold save this one Sad

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:19 pm

That is one of the worst reviews you're going to ever see
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Post by eirebilly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:20 pm

The Aussies did not look comfortable with that review at all. Very poor from Stoinis, a wasted review.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:25 pm

Stokes now hobbling too - when it rains it pours
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Post by alfie Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:26 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:That is one of the worst reviews you're going to ever see

Good to see Australia don't get everything right Smile

At least these two have got the target down under 200.

But it is becoming very clear this was not a 285 pitch. Hate to say it but KP_fan was quite right about that. Still been a disappointing batting display in any situation ; but the pressure has been getting them in all their chases recently - The West Indies match aside. Maybe Wokes should bat three every time Smile

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Post by eirebilly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:26 pm

Not great signs if Buttler is trying to play shots like that off Lyon...
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Post by Duty281 Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:31 pm

It's easily a 300 pitch. Once you negotiate the tricky new ball phase, you can cash in. Trouble is, England's top order surrendered cheaply - no surprise Stokes and Buttler have found it easier.

But they've probably got too much to do.

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Post by eirebilly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:34 pm

A very good 50 to Stokes given the context of the game but he looks to be struggling out there with his hamstring...
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Post by Pal Joey Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:40 pm

Don't know about surrendered, Duty. Australia have bowled better... those first 2 wickets exactly what was needed. Uncontrolled shots from Bairstow and Morgan and they paid the price.

Where's Bumble by the way? Haven't heard him in this World Cup. Is he OK?
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Post by robbo277 Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:42 pm

Pal Joey wrote:Don't know about surrendered, Duty. Australia have bowled better... those first 2 wickets exactly what was needed. Uncontrolled shots from Bairstow and Morgan and they paid the price.

Where's Bumble by the way? Haven't heard him in this World Cup. Is he OK?

I think ICC have selected the commentators, rather than Sky and went for more internationals being an international event. Think he just missed the call, but should be back on for England home tests.

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Post by Duty281 Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:44 pm

Pal Joey wrote:Don't know about surrendered, Duty. Australia have bowled better... those first 2 wickets exactly what was needed. Uncontrolled shots from Bairstow and Morgan and they paid the price.

Where's Bumble by the way? Haven't heard him in this World Cup. Is he OK?

They have bowled well Australia - they actually pitched it up! - but you're always inviting danger when you're going for big drives or walking across the line.

Buttler gone, that's probably it.

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Post by eirebilly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:44 pm

Oh Bollix. Buttler on the charge holes out.
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Post by eirebilly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:49 pm

Bollix it, Stokes just has to go for it now for England to stand any chance of a result. The run rate will get unmanageable very soon.
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:51 pm

It feels like a lot of unnecessary shot selection has done here. Stokes is giving the pitch and the bowlers some respect, he's the one with the score. It would be a miracle from here.

I admit, I backed the Aussies midway through, over evens seemed far too good a price. Vince is basically a non-entity and I don't trust England to tough it out.

I don't think there's a perfect side in this World Cup, so I wouldn't be surprised by any winner from here, but the Aussies and India are the ones staking a claim.

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Post by Pal Joey Tue 25 Jun 2019, 4:55 pm

Kiwis too Dolph... never write off the Black. Have a feeling they want some sort of redemption from 2015. They surely will be in the fight too.

Arghh... nearly 2am here!
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Post by eirebilly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 5:00 pm

Stokes is now well set (be it he has problems with his calf) so he should try to cut loose and let Woakes anchor the other end somewhat. Stokes with 2 sixes Very Happy
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 25 Jun 2019, 5:10 pm

Pal Joey wrote:Kiwis too Dolph... never write off the Black. Have a feeling they want some sort of redemption from 2015. They surely will be in the fight too.

Arghh... nearly 2am here!

Oh never, I just think those two are the front runners. I still very much believe in group stages being all about qualifying and nothing else.

Yeahhh, this is the one I chose as my game to stay up for in the group stages. So tomorrow I will be tired and I will be surrounded by people who will enjoy the result they wake up to.

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Post by Pal Joey Tue 25 Jun 2019, 5:14 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Pal Joey wrote:Kiwis too Dolph... never write off the Black. Have a feeling they want some sort of redemption from 2015. They surely will be in the fight too.

Arghh... nearly 2am here!

Oh never, I just think those two are the front runners. I still very much believe in group stages being all about qualifying and nothing else.

Yeahhh, this is the one I chose as my game to stay up for in the group stages. So tomorrow I will be tired and I will be surrounded by people who will enjoy the result they wake up to.

Don't worry too much. You can imagine what it's like when the Ashes were on... same thing in reverse for me!
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 25 Jun 2019, 5:18 pm

Pal Joey wrote:
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Pal Joey wrote:Kiwis too Dolph... never write off the Black. Have a feeling they want some sort of redemption from 2015. They surely will be in the fight too.

Arghh... nearly 2am here!

Oh never, I just think those two are the front runners. I still very much believe in group stages being all about qualifying and nothing else.

Yeahhh, this is the one I chose as my game to stay up for in the group stages. So tomorrow I will be tired and I will be surrounded by people who will enjoy the result they wake up to.

Don't worry too much. You can imagine what it's like when the Ashes were on... same thing in reverse for me!

I'm away for when this gets serious and the first two tests, could come back to a very interesting predicament!

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Post by Pal Joey Tue 25 Jun 2019, 5:21 pm

This ain't over yet. Australia need to finish what they started or this could get close.
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Post by eirebilly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 5:21 pm

Dare we believe again?
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 25 Jun 2019, 5:23 pm

No

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 25 Jun 2019, 5:24 pm

What a delivery that is

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Post by eirebilly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 5:25 pm

WOW. Great ball clap
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Post by compelling and rich Tue 25 Jun 2019, 5:25 pm

Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

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Post by eirebilly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 5:25 pm

All over. Well done Stokes but that was a beauty from Starc.
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Post by compelling and rich Tue 25 Jun 2019, 5:26 pm

just as i was starting to feel like it was possible. ali wont stick around here. the aussies have him on toast

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Post by eirebilly Tue 25 Jun 2019, 5:28 pm

England may not even get 200 here now.

Pal Joey, do you get annoyed with Michael Slater? He tries to be too Aussie for me.
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