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Post by sirbenson on Wed 10 Jul 2019, 10:40 pm

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Shaneo Lowry!!!!!!!!!!


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Post by kwinigolfer on Tue 23 Jul 2019, 1:35 pm

Still no official word on withdrawals from the Memphis WGC - very strange.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Tue 23 Jul 2019, 1:52 pm

Hadn't spotted that Andrea Pavan is teeing it up at the "Barracuda" in Reno along with Harrington & Kaymer and all the usual (European) suspects, Laird, Blixt, Power etc.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Tue 23 Jul 2019, 2:55 pm

I see the I Trump twitter feed is congratulating Johnson in his election as Prime Minister of the United Kingston.

Never really thought Kingston was that United, but there you go . . . . .

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Post by Shotrock on Tue 23 Jul 2019, 2:56 pm

Kingston, New York?

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Post by kwinigolfer on Tue 23 Jul 2019, 4:32 pm

Rotoworld reports that Lowry's withdrawal is now official, with the commentary that:
"He's in no state to get back on the course just yet."
What do they know that we don't? Would have thought that Shane would have one of the better constitutions on Tour to handle anything and everything that's chucked down his gullet.

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Post by Collapse2005 on Tue 23 Jul 2019, 4:35 pm

He is still on the pi$$. Homecoming in Clara, co. Offaly tonight. Celebrations not over yet, proper order too.

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Post by hogie on Tue 23 Jul 2019, 5:03 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Still no official word on withdrawals from the Memphis WGC - very strange.

yep Shane has withdrawn....

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Post by super_realist on Tue 23 Jul 2019, 5:40 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:
"He's in no state to get back on the course just yet."
What do they know that we don't? Would have thought that Shane would have one of the better constitutions on Tour to handle anything and everything that's chucked down his gullet.

Surely him being in no fit state to be on the course is the status quo?

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Post by pedro on Tue 23 Jul 2019, 6:56 pm

Even if he wanted to play, they’d never let him onto a plane.

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Post by pedro on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 1:24 am

kwinigolfer wrote:Still no official word on withdrawals from the Memphis WGC - very strange.
WDs from Molinari, Fowler, Tiger, Lowry, Wiesberger, Westy.

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Post by McLaren on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 8:23 am

I would say this a new low for Sergio but for him this is just his normal level of being a petulant moron.

https://twitter.com/RayOwensMU20/status/1153651236996091905?s=19

Chucking a club like that at someone without looking shows you have no concern for their wellbeing.
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Post by Be_the_ball on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 8:34 am

What a pathetic thing to do. He has no class. He can't even take responsibility for his own bad shot. He should have had a ban after Saudi Arabia. He's learned nothing.

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Post by super_realist on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 8:57 am

McLaren wrote:I would say this a new low for Sergio but for him this is just his normal level of being a petulant moron.

https://twitter.com/RayOwensMU20/status/1153651236996091905?s=19

Chucking a club like that at someone without looking shows you have no concern for their wellbeing.

He's not the only one Mac who behaves disgracefully, but you seem to let them off. Bubba Watson and Matt Wallace for example. Everyone would think you just had an agenda.

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Post by McLaren on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 9:17 am

Bubba and Wallace had arguments with their caddies, segio threw a club at his. A bit of a difference.

Sergio also has a history of equally pea brained incidents.

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Post by pedro on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 9:42 am

Obviously it was the wrong club so the caddy must take resposibility.




Ok that was a joke.

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Post by McLaren on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 10:06 am

Imagine an normal employer/employee relationship where a club was thrown at one of them, dismissal would be a given and criminal proceedings not unlikely.
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Post by navyblueshorts on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 10:13 am

super_realist wrote:
McLaren wrote:The case for MMA being bs is stronger than for almost all other sports.

What moron is enjoying that crap?

Agreed. MMA is completely pointless and one for the knuckle dragging, tattooed untermensch of our society.
As pointless as any other 'sport' then. Each to their own.

Mac. What 'moron' enjoys F1? That's one for the 'knuckle dragging, tattooed petrolheads of our society' don't you think?
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Post by navyblueshorts on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 10:14 am

Shotrock wrote:Kingston, New York?
Maybe Kingston, Jamaica?
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Post by navyblueshorts on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 10:17 am

McLaren wrote:I would say this a new low for Sergio but for him this is just his normal level of being a petulant moron.

https://twitter.com/RayOwensMU20/status/1153651236996091905?s=19

Chucking a club like that at someone without looking shows you have no concern for their wellbeing.
Do you spend you life on Tw@tter looking for anti-Sergio things to post? Pretty poor behaviour, but you give so many others a pass don't you? More hypocrisy?
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Post by navyblueshorts on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 10:21 am

McLaren wrote:Bubba and Wallace had arguments with their caddies, segio threw a club at his. A bit of a difference.

Sergio also has a history of equally pea brained incidents.

"Segio"? I should have taken S_R up on a language challenge with you. Sergio lobbed his club sideways, without looking. I don't think he "threw it at him", which is what you're saying. Try dropping your agenda, and being objective and accurate for once.
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Post by McLaren on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 11:34 am

Navy

Not sure if you are aware how twitter works but the things other people post show up in your feed, it isn't necessary to go looking for something.  In this case it was reposted by the golf digest twitter feed.


And what would you say is the objective view on this incident?
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Post by navyblueshorts on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 11:39 am

McLaren wrote:Navy

Not sure if you are aware how twitter works but the things other people post show up in your feed, it isn't necessary to go looking for something.  In this case it was reposted by the golf digest twitter feed.


And what would you say is the objective view on this incident?
That his behaviour was indeed stupid, that he didn't "throw his club at his caddie" and very few people really give a damn. Doesn't matter; you won't change your agenda re. Garcia.
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Post by McLaren on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 11:53 am

This is weird, Garcia constantly exhibits boned headed behavior and yet the problem is me mentioning it.  Saying I have an agenda is giving the on course antics of Sergio a gravitas well beyond what they deserve. 


But to be fair could you please list the golfers who have a similar number of instances of appalling behavior as Garcia and I will condemn them.
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Post by McLaren on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 12:03 pm

Be_the_ball wrote:What a pathetic thing to do. He has no class. He can't even take responsibility for his own bad shot. He should have had a ban after Saudi Arabia. He's learned nothing.


On this board the above comment will be seen as "having an agenda" but out in the real world the reaction to Sergio throwing/chucking/lobbing/hurling (whatever you want to call it) his club at his caddie has been almost universally condemned.
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Post by Collapse2005 on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 1:17 pm

Looks like Ireland are making a mess of England in the cricket. boxing

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Post by kwinigolfer on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 1:25 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:Looks like Ireland are making a mess of England in the cricket. boxing


LadyPutt (I expect) and I used to watch Tim Murtagh's Uncle Andy playing one dayers for Hampshire - the only player I've watched who was chosen for his fielding alone. And not one trace of Irish accent!

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Post by Shotrock on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 1:42 pm

Just some MORE stupid behavior from Pea Brain. Hard to top purposely damaging 5 holes in a row, however.

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Post by McLaren on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 1:48 pm

Shotrock wrote:Just some MORE stupid behavior from Pea Brain. Hard to top purposely damaging 5 holes in a row, however.

But shotrock what about all the other players you are overlooking who have also hacked up 5 greens in a row and spat in the cup.........
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Post by navyblueshorts on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 1:56 pm

McLaren wrote:
Shotrock wrote:Just some MORE stupid behavior from Pea Brain. Hard to top purposely damaging 5 holes in a row, however.

But shotrock what about all the other players you are overlooking who have also hacked up 5 greens in a row and spat in the cup.........
Oh, do grow up.
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Post by McLaren on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 2:03 pm

Navy

Are you realising your argument made no sense, and that maybe Sergio is more of a douche than most golfers.
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Post by kwinigolfer on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 2:17 pm

McLaren wrote:Navy

Are you realising your argument made no sense, and that maybe Sergio is more of a douche than most golfers.


Whatever you think of Sergio, one thing is for sure; his game has gone to pot, seems totally out of love with the whole thing. Don't think he'd make any Ryder Cup squad right now, deja vu all over again from pre-Celtic Manor.

Mac,
You've watched enough golf (tho' maybe you haven't?) to see players lobbing clubs carelessly to caddies on almost a hole-by-hole basis. Only speculative whether there was more to Sergio's toss than meets the eye. Who's caddying for him these days anyway?


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Post by navyblueshorts on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 2:25 pm

McLaren wrote:Navy

Are you realising your argument made no sense, and that maybe Sergio is more of a douche than most golfers.
Q.E.D. Your agenda pops out again.
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Post by McLaren on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 2:53 pm

Navy

Spat in the cup
Lost driver after throwing it in a Bush
Many other club throws
Threw shoe into a lake
Hacked up a tee marker
Made racist comment (whether he knew or not)
Many tantrums in bunkers where he has hacked them up
Hacked up greens
Spouted conspiracy theory about tiger rattling a club
Generally poor attitude on the course


My agenda or his terrible behaviour?
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Post by navyblueshorts on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 3:58 pm

McLaren wrote:Navy

Spat in the cup
Lost driver after throwing it in a Bush
Many other club throws
Threw shoe into a lake
Hacked up a tee marker
Made racist comment (whether he knew or not)
Many tantrums in bunkers where he has hacked them up
Hacked up greens
Spouted conspiracy theory about tiger rattling a club
Generally poor attitude on the course


My agenda or his terrible behaviour?
I don't dispute his behaviour is/has been poor; the same as I don't dispute your continued harping about him is an agenda. Not asking you to stop; just to admit that you're not even-handed in your criticisms here, or elsewhere for that matter.
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Post by McLaren on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 4:04 pm

Navy

To say I am not being even handed suggests you think there is another player with the same record of petulance and moronic behaviour as Sergio. If you could point these players out I will happily admit to failing to be consistent between my treatment of them and Sergio.
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Post by Davie on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 8:40 pm

Boring now - both Mac and NBS. Give it a rest both of you

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Post by kwinigolfer on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 9:24 pm

McLaren wrote:Navy

To say I am not being even handed suggests you think there is another player with the same record of petulance and moronic behaviour as Sergio. If you could point these players out I will happily admit to failing to be consistent between my treatment of them and Sergio.


How would you feel if he was a sex addict, done for DUI, threw clubs, swore profusely, etc, etc? (And hated Sergio!)

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Post by pedro on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 9:39 pm

McLaren wrote:Imagine an normal employer/employee relationship
Well that’s highly hypothetical for you isn’t it?

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Post by McLaren on Wed 24 Jul 2019, 11:19 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:
McLaren wrote:Navy

To say I am not being even handed suggests you think there is another player with the same record of petulance and moronic behaviour as Sergio. If you could point these players out I will happily admit to failing to be consistent between my treatment of them and Sergio.
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How would you feel if he was a sex addict, done for DUI, threw clubs, swore profusely, etc, etc? (And hated Sergio!)[/size]

Anyone that hates sergio is good in my book.  Whistle
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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu 25 Jul 2019, 10:37 am

The BBC seems to think that the 2026 Ryder Cup being staged at Limerick's Adare Manor is a done deal.
Anyone seen any corroboration of that?

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Post by Collapse2005 on Thu 25 Jul 2019, 10:40 am

Its all over the news here too. Amazing venue, beautiful hotel.

Adare is the biggest bottleneck in Ireland though. Hope they build a bypass first.

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Post by McLaren on Thu 25 Jul 2019, 11:25 am

Rory McIlroy to 'reassess' major strategy after Open failure - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/49108958

Just copy Koepka.


Surprised he admits to "nearly" crying on the back nine. Seems he was struggling with the pressure more than we thought.
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Post by Collapse2005 on Thu 25 Jul 2019, 11:32 am

Why does that surprise you? Would have thought that falling apart in the first British Open in over 50 years in one of his local courses would fairly obviously be pretty upsetting.

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Post by wiretapper on Thu 25 Jul 2019, 11:45 am

kwinigolfer wrote:Still no official word on withdrawals from the Memphis WGC - very strange.

Good to see Kevin Na has got over his acute case of linksitis

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Post by McLaren on Thu 25 Jul 2019, 11:50 am

Collapse. I was surprised that he admitted to it, not that it happened.
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Post by Collapse2005 on Thu 25 Jul 2019, 11:59 am

McLaren wrote:Collapse. I was surprised that he admitted to it, not that it happened.

I don't see any sense in lying. Lowry admitted to crying in the car park after missing the cut in the open last year and then won it this year.

Just by looking at McIlroys face it was pretty obvious he was really struggling.


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Post by Collapse2005 on Thu 25 Jul 2019, 12:01 pm

McLaren wrote:Rory McIlroy to 'reassess' major strategy after Open failure - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/49108958

Just copy Koepka.


Surprised he admits to "nearly" crying on the back nine. Seems he was struggling with the pressure more than we thought.

Surely having one of his mates as a caddy isn't the wisest of strategies for a start.

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Post by McLaren on Thu 25 Jul 2019, 12:52 pm

I am not sure he would have to lie about crying on the course, just that he has no obligation to tell anyone about it.  


As for his caddy, I think I mentioned that I got the chance to see him work close up at the Scottish open and it was painful.  On a course playing exceptionally easy where the danger you had to mitigate was minimal his caddy kept giving him advice that put Rory in the few danger zones that existed. 18 at the Open was another example of poor caddying where his caddy failed to notice how strong the wind off the right was.  After the round Rory said he hadn't realised how strong the wind was while at the time I heard Casey's caddy identify the stronger wind and mad sure casey was aiming at the right hand side of the green.

He needs a caddy that will bully him into taking the correct choices and who can step in and help him read putts.  

Also does Rory's caddy scout the course beforehand?
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Post by beninho on Fri 26 Jul 2019, 7:53 am

Rory Mcilroy seems the last person who would want a caddie to bully him. He previously said he likes to make his own calls on the course. And not had a vad year has he?

Your caddy is sht says no mark to world number 3, with 2 wins this year.

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Post by I'm never wrong on Fri 26 Jul 2019, 8:37 am

Playing devils advocate here Ben, but could a “better” caddie have made that 5 or 6 wins and world number 1?

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