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Post by JuliusHMarx on Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:39 am

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Tea anyone?

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Post by Samo on Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:39 am

Happy Vassal State day everyone!

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Post by Soul Requiem on Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:29 am

Samo wrote:Happy Vassal State day everyone!

Oh bless, still can't get over it.

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Post by Samo on Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:36 am

Soul Requiem wrote:
Samo wrote:Happy Vassal State day everyone!

Oh bless, still can't get over it.

Never been happier.

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Post by Pr4wn on Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:23 pm

The UK ambassador to the USA seems to think that the Americans are going to want the NHS to pay much higher prices for drugs as part of an US/UK trade deal. But what would he know?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:05 pm

Unmitigated disaster fast approaching...

Sad.. Very sad...

Grandpa and Grandma have left the UK in a fix..

Should ban votes for over 70s and bring in votes at 16..

Kids have got more sense and it is their future.

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Post by Soul Requiem on Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:08 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Unmitigated disaster fast approaching...

Sad.. Very sad...

Grandpa and Grandma have left the UK in a fix..

Should ban votes for over 70s and bring in votes at 16..

Kids have got more sense and it is their future.

laughing

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Post by Duty281 on Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:25 am

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/21/eu-leaders-at-odds-over-filling-brexit-shortfall

Oh dear. laughing

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:48 pm

Duty281 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/21/eu-leaders-at-odds-over-filling-brexit-shortfall

Oh dear. laughing

At least it is a union where every country gets heard and listened to. Sounds far more independent and open than another union. thumbsup
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Post by Duty281 on Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:56 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/21/eu-leaders-at-odds-over-filling-brexit-shortfall

Oh dear. laughing

At least it is a union where every country gets heard and listened to. Sounds far more independent and open than another union. thumbsup

This is the Brexit thread, Craig, not the whinging-about-how-a-vote-in-2014-didn’t-go-the-way-you-wanted thread.

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Post by Steffan on Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:17 pm

Hey Duty. Was it your mother on Question Time last Thursday just out of interest?

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Post by Duty281 on Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:24 pm

Steffan wrote:Hey Duty. Was it your mother on Question Time last Thursday just out of interest?

Doubt it, she lives in Jamaica.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:44 pm

Duty281 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/21/eu-leaders-at-odds-over-filling-brexit-shortfall

Oh dear. laughing

At least it is a union where every country gets heard and listened to. Sounds far more independent and open than another union. thumbsup

This is the Brexit thread, Craig, not the whinging-about-how-a-vote-in-2014-didn’t-go-the-way-you-wanted thread.

What are you babbling about?

You post up a link trying to mock the EU for not coming to agreements over Brexit. The point I make is that EU listens to all of its member states and does not push through laws and agreements that not everyone is for so unlike the UK. Two countries within the UK voted against Brexit. Tough crap its happened. And then when the Cummings government wanted to negotiate a new Brexit Deal over Northern Ireland border issues the EU left it up to Ireland to listen to proposals and would only proceed onwards if Irish government was happy. On the other side of the coin Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland had no say whatsoever on any of the Brexit Withdrawal bill. What a dictatorship.
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Post by Duty281 on Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:12 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/21/eu-leaders-at-odds-over-filling-brexit-shortfall

Oh dear. laughing

At least it is a union where every country gets heard and listened to. Sounds far more independent and open than another union. thumbsup

This is the Brexit thread, Craig, not the whinging-about-how-a-vote-in-2014-didn’t-go-the-way-you-wanted thread.

The point I make is that EU listens to all of its member states and does not push through laws and agreements that not everyone is for so unlike the UK.

Completely false, as usual. The EU, like every other place, does not use unanimity in pushing through laws, instead it uses a majority system. Do some research before posting. thumbsup

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:22 pm

Duty281 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/21/eu-leaders-at-odds-over-filling-brexit-shortfall

Oh dear. laughing

At least it is a union where every country gets heard and listened to. Sounds far more independent and open than another union. thumbsup

This is the Brexit thread, Craig, not the whinging-about-how-a-vote-in-2014-didn’t-go-the-way-you-wanted thread.

The point I make is that EU listens to all of its member states and does not push through laws and agreements that not everyone is for so unlike the UK.

Completely false, as usual. The EU, like every other place, does not use unanimity in pushing through laws, instead it uses a majority system. Do some research before posting. thumbsup

I think you need to. On Brexit just one country needed to veto the agreement and it would not have been okayed by the EU. Just like just one country needs to say no to trade agreement deals and the deal will not go ahead. That is most definitely NOT the case in the UK.
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Post by Duty281 on Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:36 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/21/eu-leaders-at-odds-over-filling-brexit-shortfall

Oh dear. laughing

At least it is a union where every country gets heard and listened to. Sounds far more independent and open than another union. thumbsup

This is the Brexit thread, Craig, not the whinging-about-how-a-vote-in-2014-didn’t-go-the-way-you-wanted thread.

The point I make is that EU listens to all of its member states and does not push through laws and agreements that not everyone is for so unlike the UK.

Completely false, as usual. The EU, like every other place, does not use unanimity in pushing through laws, instead it uses a majority system. Do some research before posting. thumbsup

I think you need to. On Brexit just one country needed to veto the agreement and it would not have been okayed by the EU. Just like just one country needs to say no to trade agreement deals and the deal will not go ahead. That is most definitely NOT the case in the UK.

Hence why I said ‘laws’, not ‘agreements’. Most trade agreements do have the power to be vetoed by one country (another reason why the U.K. is better off out), but laws go through on majority (so they can be pushed onto countries who don’t agree with them, contrary to your false claim).

When you say ‘just one country needed to veto the agreement’, with regards to Brexit, if you mean the withdrawal agreement that recently went through, then that is false as one country does not have the power of veto.

https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-veto-brexit-deal/

If you mean a possible future trade arrangement, then yes, one country can veto it.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:58 pm

Duty281 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/21/eu-leaders-at-odds-over-filling-brexit-shortfall

Oh dear. laughing

At least it is a union where every country gets heard and listened to. Sounds far more independent and open than another union. thumbsup

This is the Brexit thread, Craig, not the whinging-about-how-a-vote-in-2014-didn’t-go-the-way-you-wanted thread.

The point I make is that EU listens to all of its member states and does not push through laws and agreements that not everyone is for so unlike the UK.

Completely false, as usual. The EU, like every other place, does not use unanimity in pushing through laws, instead it uses a majority system. Do some research before posting. thumbsup

I think you need to. On Brexit just one country needed to veto the agreement and it would not have been okayed by the EU. Just like just one country needs to say no to trade agreement deals and the deal will not go ahead. That is most definitely NOT the case in the UK.

Hence why I said ‘laws’, not ‘agreements’. Most trade agreements do have the power to be vetoed by one country (another reason why the U.K. is better off out), but laws go through on majority (so they can be pushed onto countries who don’t agree with them, contrary to your false claim).

When you say ‘just one country needed to veto the agreement’, with regards to Brexit, if you mean the withdrawal agreement that recently went through, then that is false as one country does not have the power of veto.

https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-veto-brexit-deal/

If you mean a possible future trade arrangement, then yes, one country can veto it.

Whereas in the UK that is NOT the case. Scotland and Northern Ireland voted against Brexit but hey ho it happened. And this is laughingly referred to as 'The Union of Equals'. Laugh
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Post by Soul Requiem on Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:53 pm

A union of equals doesn't mean 3 million people having the same say as 60 million, not sure why that concept is so difficult for you to understand.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:15 pm

Soul Requiem wrote:A union of equals doesn't mean 3 million people having the same say as 60 million, not sure why that concept is so difficult for you to understand.

Are you being deliberately dense?

The terminology laughingly used suggests that all four countries in this union has an equal say when quite clearly they do not. Brexit proves that straight away. It is a union where what English MPs want to vote through they can and will and Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland can do nothing about that. If you were not English believe you me you would not like that set up in this union I guarantee it.
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Post by Soul Requiem on Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:21 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:A union of equals doesn't mean 3 million people having the same say as 60 million, not sure why that concept is so difficult for you to understand.

Are you being deliberately dense?

The terminology laughingly used suggests that all four countries in this union has an equal say when quite clearly they do not. Brexit proves that straight away. It is a union where what English MPs want to vote through they can and will and Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland can do nothing about that. If you were not English believe you me you would not like that set up in this union I guarantee it.

Dont post this nonsense and accuse others of being dense Doh

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:31 pm

Soul Requiem wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:A union of equals doesn't mean 3 million people having the same say as 60 million, not sure why that concept is so difficult for you to understand.

Are you being deliberately dense?

The terminology laughingly used suggests that all four countries in this union has an equal say when quite clearly they do not. Brexit proves that straight away. It is a union where what English MPs want to vote through they can and will and Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland can do nothing about that. If you were not English believe you me you would not like that set up in this union I guarantee it.

Dont post this nonsense and accuse others of being dense Doh

Take a look at this thread - multiple people mocking your stupidity.
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Post by Soul Requiem on Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:48 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:A union of equals doesn't mean 3 million people having the same say as 60 million, not sure why that concept is so difficult for you to understand.

Are you being deliberately dense?

The terminology laughingly used suggests that all four countries in this union has an equal say when quite clearly they do not. Brexit proves that straight away. It is a union where what English MPs want to vote through they can and will and Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland can do nothing about that. If you were not English believe you me you would not like that set up in this union I guarantee it.

Dont post this nonsense and accuse others of being dense Doh

Take a look at this thread - multiple people mocking your stupidity.

Those in glass houses Craig.

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Post by Samo on Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:42 pm

So we may have destroyed our free trade with the EU but atleast Johnsons got a back up plan for a trade deal with Australia for Vegemite and Tim Tams.

Suffering christ.

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Post by BamBam on Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:33 pm

Surely you aren't trying to minimise just how great Tim Tams are angel

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Post by Pr4wn on Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:45 am

Man who was apparently furious about unelected European bureaucrats trying to run the UK apparent;y doesn't have too much of a problem with Russian ones giving it a go.

Why are people not furious about this? Surely it has to be looked into?

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Post by lostinwales on Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:48 am

Pr4wn wrote:Man who was apparently furious about unelected European bureaucrats trying to run the UK apparent;y doesn't have too much of a problem with Russian ones giving it a go.

Why are people not furious about this? Surely it has to be looked into?

The lunatics have taken over the asylum and have no interest in anybody finding out how. Desperate and depressing times.

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Post by Samo on Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:06 am

They only have a problem with unelected bureaucrats when they do things they are told they shouldnt like. If they get their beloved Brexit they couldnt give a Poopie. Its not about right or wrong anymore, its about winning and nothing can take away from them the thing they believe they won.

Even if what they won is choosing to get punched in the nuts. It was their choice. And now nothing matters more to them than getting punched in the nuts. Because it was their choice and their choice won.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:25 pm

Pr4wn wrote:Man who was apparently furious about unelected European bureaucrats trying to run the UK apparent;y doesn't have too much of a problem with Russian ones giving it a go.

Why are people not furious about this? Surely it has to be looked into?
Firstly, I agree w/ the general tenor. However, maybe this has come about because of the perhaps naive assumption that 'The West' could work w/ the newer Russia, starting from around Blair's time? If so, perhaps a little credulous. Possibly an issue w/ liberal democracies?
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Post by dyrewolfe on Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:39 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:Man who was apparently furious about unelected European bureaucrats trying to run the UK apparent;y doesn't have too much of a problem with Russian ones giving it a go.

Why are people not furious about this? Surely it has to be looked into?
Firstly, I agree w/ the general tenor. However, maybe this has come about because of the perhaps naive assumption that 'The West' could work w/ the newer Russia, starting from around Blair's time? If so, perhaps a little credulous. Possibly an issue w/ liberal democracies?

More an issue with nasty, unscrupulous dictatorships that will stop at nothing to achieve their aims.

But yes, Western democracies were naive (and greedy) to think they could deal honestly with Russia or China. Happy to take their money & investment...now we're paying the price for it.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:57 pm

Sorry to break it to you but with the deplorable press both here in the UK and Stateside.. Politicians can be as hypocritical as they want..

Difference here is that Johnson has 90% behind him while Trump swims against 90%..

Hence Biden's cognitive issues and Ukraine shenanigans are largely unreported..

The woeful drop in print circulation can only be a good thing.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:37 am

dyrewolfe wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:Man who was apparently furious about unelected European bureaucrats trying to run the UK apparent;y doesn't have too much of a problem with Russian ones giving it a go.

Why are people not furious about this? Surely it has to be looked into?
Firstly, I agree w/ the general tenor. However, maybe this has come about because of the perhaps naive assumption that 'The West' could work w/ the newer Russia, starting from around Blair's time? If so, perhaps a little credulous. Possibly an issue w/ liberal democracies?

More an issue with nasty, unscrupulous dictatorships that will stop at nothing to achieve their aims.

But yes, Western democracies were naive (and greedy) to think they could deal honestly with Russia or China. Happy to take their money & investment...now we're paying the price for it.
Fair point. Perhaps better phrased that way.
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Post by navyblueshorts on Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:40 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Sorry to break it to you but with the deplorable press both here in the UK and Stateside.. Politicians can be as hypocritical as they want..

Difference here is that Johnson has 90% behind him while Trump swims against 90%..

Hence Biden's cognitive issues and Ukraine shenanigans are largely unreported..

The woeful drop in print circulation can only be a good thing.
Nonsense, especially on Ukraine. That's not reported on so much now because, despite the Right trying very hard, no-one thinks there's a great to deal to answer there. There's more focus on Trump because he's simply asking for it - if you talk demonstrable scheisse (injected any disinfectant recently?) and go out of your way to be confrontational, you're going to get comment, good or bad. If Trump actually acted Presidential for once and for a period of time, Biden would get more comment/analysis etc.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:15 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Sorry to break it to you but with the deplorable press both here in the UK and Stateside.. Politicians can be as hypocritical as they want..

Difference here is that Johnson has 90% behind him while Trump swims against 90%..

Hence Biden's cognitive issues and Ukraine shenanigans are largely unreported..

The woeful drop in print circulation can only be a good thing.
Nonsense, especially on Ukraine. That's not reported on so much now because, despite the Right trying very hard, no-one thinks there's a great to deal to answer there. There's more focus on Trump because he's simply asking for it - if you talk demonstrable scheisse (injected any disinfectant recently?) and go out of your way to be confrontational, you're going to get comment, good or bad. If Trump actually acted Presidential for once and for a period of time, Biden would get more comment/analysis etc.

You are so naive.....It's never been reported except on Fox....Biden is banged to rights on getting the Ukrainian Head Prosecutor sacked for investigating his Son in exchange for Millions of dollars..

Perhaps read instead of contributing.....But while you are here would you like to invest in an oil field in the field next to my garden ???

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Post by Pr4wn on Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:30 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Sorry to break it to you but with the deplorable press both here in the UK and Stateside.. Politicians can be as hypocritical as they want..

Difference here is that Johnson has 90% behind him while Trump swims against 90%..

Hence Biden's cognitive issues and Ukraine shenanigans are largely unreported..

The woeful drop in print circulation can only be a good thing.
Nonsense, especially on Ukraine. That's not reported on so much now because, despite the Right trying very hard, no-one thinks there's a great to deal to answer there. There's more focus on Trump because he's simply asking for it - if you talk demonstrable scheisse (injected any disinfectant recently?) and go out of your way to be confrontational, you're going to get comment, good or bad. If Trump actually acted Presidential for once and for a period of time, Biden would get more comment/analysis etc.

You are so naive.....It's never been reported except on Fox....Biden is banged to rights on getting the Ukrainian Head Prosecutor sacked for investigating his Son in exchange for Millions of dollars..

Perhaps read instead of contributing.....But while you are here would you like to invest in an oil field in the field next to my garden ???

You're embarrassing yourself.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:49 am

Pr4wn wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Sorry to break it to you but with the deplorable press both here in the UK and Stateside.. Politicians can be as hypocritical as they want..

Difference here is that Johnson has 90% behind him while Trump swims against 90%..

Hence Biden's cognitive issues and Ukraine shenanigans are largely unreported..

The woeful drop in print circulation can only be a good thing.
Nonsense, especially on Ukraine. That's not reported on so much now because, despite the Right trying very hard, no-one thinks there's a great to deal to answer there. There's more focus on Trump because he's simply asking for it - if you talk demonstrable scheisse (injected any disinfectant recently?) and go out of your way to be confrontational, you're going to get comment, good or bad. If Trump actually acted Presidential for once and for a period of time, Biden would get more comment/analysis etc.

You are so naive.....It's never been reported except on Fox....Biden is banged to rights on getting the Ukrainian Head Prosecutor sacked for investigating his Son in exchange for Millions of dollars..

Perhaps read instead of contributing.....But while you are here would you like to invest in an oil field in the field next to my garden ???

You're embarrassing yourself.

You are entitled to your opinion..

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Post by navyblueshorts on Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:35 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Sorry to break it to you but with the deplorable press both here in the UK and Stateside.. Politicians can be as hypocritical as they want..

Difference here is that Johnson has 90% behind him while Trump swims against 90%..

Hence Biden's cognitive issues and Ukraine shenanigans are largely unreported..

The woeful drop in print circulation can only be a good thing.
Nonsense, especially on Ukraine. That's not reported on so much now because, despite the Right trying very hard, no-one thinks there's a great to deal to answer there. There's more focus on Trump because he's simply asking for it - if you talk demonstrable scheisse (injected any disinfectant recently?) and go out of your way to be confrontational, you're going to get comment, good or bad. If Trump actually acted Presidential for once and for a period of time, Biden would get more comment/analysis etc.

You are so naive.....It's never been reported except on Fox....Biden is banged to rights on getting the Ukrainian Head Prosecutor sacked for investigating his Son in exchange for Millions of dollars..

Perhaps read instead of contributing.....But while you are here would you like to invest in an oil field in the field next to my garden ???
I don't watch Fox, so how come I know more than enough about it? Nice to know you have an inside line on the evidence re. sacking of prosecutor that so many others seem not to have come across. Still not thinking, are we? Hug


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:10 pm

For a Teacher you are very naive....

Quite charming in a way.

Read up on Biden and the Ukraine and get back to me...

Feel free to patronize me then....Start with how his Son with no qualifications ended up earning hundreds of thousands on a Ukranian oil Company board while Biden was VP..

Maybe they liked his smile.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:23 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:For a Teacher you are very naive....

Quite charming in a way.

Read up on Biden and the Ukraine and get back to me...

Feel free to patronize me then....Start with how his Son with no qualifications ended up earning hundreds of thousands on a Ukranian oil Company board while Biden was VP..

Maybe they liked his smile.
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Post by navyblueshorts on Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:33 am

A view from abroad:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/09/britain-brexit-humbling/616343/
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Post by Soul Requiem on Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:51 am

navyblueshorts wrote:A view from abroad:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/09/britain-brexit-humbling/616343/

A London based journalist is a view from abroad now?

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Post by Pr4wn on Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:29 am

Soul Requiem wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:A view from abroad:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/09/britain-brexit-humbling/616343/

A London based journalist is a view from abroad now?

Fancy commenting on the article instead of making a cheap point?

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Post by Pr4wn on Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:31 am

Ed Miliband completely humiliated Johnson yesterday. A surprisingly good speech. Worth a watch if you've got 15 spare minutes.

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Post by Soul Requiem on Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:34 am

Pr4wn wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:A view from abroad:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/09/britain-brexit-humbling/616343/

A London based journalist is a view from abroad now?

Fancy commenting on the article instead of making a cheap point?

No, I'm happy with my comment.

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Post by lostinwales on Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:59 am

Soul Requiem wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:A view from abroad:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/09/britain-brexit-humbling/616343/

A London based journalist is a view from abroad now?

Fancy commenting on the article instead of making a cheap point?

No, I'm happy with my comment.

Truly shocking that a foreign journal might want a locally based journo to write on local events. Completely unheard of.

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Post by Pr4wn on Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:33 am

Pretty sure he's British, to be fair.

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Post by Samo on Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:40 pm

Absolute scenes in parliament last night as the party that promised and promoted a "Global Britain" decided that the best way to achieve that would be destroy any shred of credibility we had, and torch the deal Johnson promised as "Oven-ready" - the very same deal they were tripping over themselves telling us they had to vote for it to "Get Brexit Done" and win the election.

Ever feel like you've been sold down the river?

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:58 pm

Samo wrote:

Ever feel like you've been sold down the river?

That happened around six years ago.
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Post by navyblueshorts on Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:13 pm

Soul Requiem wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:A view from abroad:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/09/britain-brexit-humbling/616343/

A London based journalist is a view from abroad now?
Possibly, just possibly, he's in touch w/ them back in America and may just spend time there as well?
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Post by navyblueshorts on Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:17 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
Samo wrote:

Ever feel like you've been sold down the river?

That happened around six years ago.
Tumbleweed Going to be funny watching the Sheltand Islands secede from Scotland...
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:34 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Samo wrote:

Ever feel like you've been sold down the river?

That happened around six years ago.
Tumbleweed Going to be funny watching the Sheltand Islands secede from Scotland...

Perhaps you need to read this:-

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/talk-shetland-independence-wide-mark-2968657

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Post by superflyweight on Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:43 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Samo wrote:

Ever feel like you've been sold down the river?

That happened around six years ago.
Tumbleweed Going to be funny watching the Sheltand Islands secede from Scotland...

Perhaps you need to read this:-

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/talk-shetland-independence-wide-mark-2968657

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While it does approach the story with a good deal of sense and realism, it does throw up an interesting issue in its own right.  How does the SNP government, which itself demands greater powers from Westminster (and eventually of course, Independence), justify its continuing power grab and centralisation of government in the face of protest from local regions who want their own level of autonomy?

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