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Post by RDW Sun 19 Apr 2020, 11:10 pm

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Post by Hazel Sapling Thu 09 Jul 2020, 8:41 am

It is a concern that the SRU are being difficult over contracts. It is the type of thing that ruptures the relationships and builds a reputation. If Swinson can get the player union recognition, it will at least force more honesty from HQ.

On playing time, who was he meant to be playing over? Ritchie, Watson, Bradbury or Mata? That is ignoring guys like Crosbie and Haining who were playing well. It is one of those, great to say you should be playing more but say who you should be playing over

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Post by BigGee Thu 09 Jul 2020, 8:49 am

I am not sure in JBs case they were being difficult.

At his age and with the injury record he had over the past few years, not to mention the quality of the young back row available to Edinburgh, he would have knosn as we as snyond that another contract was always unlikely.

He said himself that he was ready to retire in January it is only the way the season has panned out that seems to have changed his mind.

That might be the fact that scares off other employers unfortunately, the concern that if he is taken on and it does not work out for him might he be ready to retire sgajn next January.

I am not sure if the hunger goes, you ever really get it back.

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Post by EST Thu 09 Jul 2020, 9:14 am

BigGee wrote:I am not sure in JBs case they were being difficult.

At his age and with the injury record he had over the past few years, not to mention the quality of the young back row available to Edinburgh, he would have knosn as we as snyond that another contract was always unlikely.

He said himself that he was ready to retire in January  it is only the way the season has panned out that seems to have changed his mind.

That might be the fact that scares off other employers unfortunately, the concern that if he is taken on and it does not work out for him  might he be ready to retire sgajn next January.

I am not sure if the hunger goes, you ever really get it back.

I can't imagine there are many/if any potential suitors just now given his age and the financial situation most rugby clubs find themselves in - Glasgow is the only place that makes sense really.

Looking at the BR:

Wilson, Harley, Vakaloloma, Gordon, Fusaro, Fagerson and Ashe

Being totally honest, its a very uninspiring group that undoubtedly needs re-enforcement.

Perfect world Crosbie moves across with one of Darge/Boyle assigned to Glasgow, or they splash the cash to sign Kwagga Smith or similar. Failing that, out of the options available, I don't doubt that Barclay would improve that group for a year.

Looking at all of the above, makes the loss of Matt Smith from the game even more unfortunate.

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Post by RDW Thu 09 Jul 2020, 9:27 am

Finlay Christie is starting for the Blues in the top table clash against the Crusaders on Saturday.

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Post by Hazel Sapling Thu 09 Jul 2020, 9:37 am

Losing M Smith was a short sighted move. Flockhart can be added to the pool, but unless Vakaloloma turns into the next Bill Mata, we are short a true dominant flanker.

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Post by NeilyBroon Thu 09 Jul 2020, 10:09 am

BigGee wrote:I am not sure in JBs case they were being difficult.

At his age and with the injury record he had over the past few years, not to mention the quality of the young back row available to Edinburgh, he would have knosn as we as snyond that another contract was always unlikely.

He said himself that he was ready to retire in January  it is only the way the season has panned out that seems to have changed his mind.

That might be the fact that scares off other employers unfortunately, the concern that if he is taken on and it does not work out for him  might he be ready to retire sgajn next January.

I am not sure if the hunger goes, you ever really get it back.

I think perhaps it's more just the lack of transparency and two-way dialogue between managing staff and players. Matt Scott was pretty much dropped in it, despite Cockers saying he wanted to keep him. It sounds like Barclay was ready for a conversation regarding his future but wasn't really given the opportunity and it was more assumed (probably fairly) that he was looking to retire. That being said if I was looking ahead at any point in my career - beginning, middle or end - I'd want to be able to have an open discussion with management about it. I don't think Barclay would have got a player contract but maybe one like Du Pleissis got at Glasgow mostly coaching but also playing part-time if required, given the opportunity.

With Smith leaving rugby altogether it doesn't paint a particularly inviting picture of pro rugby in Scotland, especially when you consider some of the mediocrities that have been recruited domestically and overseas. It may be the players being divas of course but I definitely think there's more to it than that. It's not as if we're flush with pro players so we really should be making the most of the ones who are willing to play in Scotland and helping them get themselves in the shop window for other sides and the national side.

We also have a problem with home-bred coaches and we have a good opportunity to develop some who can then gain more experience elsewhere but yet again seems like a missed opportunity.


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Post by EST Thu 09 Jul 2020, 10:16 am

Hazel Sapling wrote:Losing M Smith was a short sighted move. Flockhart can be added to the pool, but unless Vakaloloma turns into the next Bill Mata, we are short a true dominant flanker.

Didn't include Flockhart as I don't think he's under contract for next year? Would be very surprised if he wasn't kept on though. Don't really know what to make of him as a player, been around the squad for a while now but hasn't really pushed on in the way some others his age have. Looked decent last season, but didn't get a great deal of game time.


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Post by Tramptastic Thu 09 Jul 2020, 10:17 am

As much as some people are advocating Crosbie moving across to Glasgow I think that would be a fairly terrible move, mostly from a PR POV. Crosbie plays for Edinburgh and grew up supporting Edinburgh without coming through the traditional systems that support rugby development in the Edinburgh area (the public school system). He's a local Livingston lad that didnt go through the paid education system and is somebody Edinburgh rugby should be keen to uphold as a point of difference.

What we have here is an abrasive, talented grafter from a working class background. The SRU want to sell the game to a wider audience and here's somebody that looks/sounds/acts like somebody from a wider audience.

Edinburgh would be psycho to let him go, he's good enough to push on to full Scotland honours, he breaks the mould of what a scottish rugby player looks like and he's a life long Edinburgh fan. Losing him to Glasgow would be a farce.

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Post by EST Thu 09 Jul 2020, 10:37 am

Tramptastic wrote:As much as some people are advocating Crosbie moving across to Glasgow I think that would be a fairly terrible move, mostly from a PR POV. Crosbie plays for Edinburgh and grew up supporting Edinburgh without coming through the traditional systems that support rugby development in the Edinburgh area (the public school system). He's a local Livingston lad that didnt go through the paid education system and is somebody Edinburgh rugby should be keen to uphold as a point of difference.

What we have here is an abrasive, talented grafter from a working class background. The SRU want to sell the game to a wider audience and here's somebody that looks/sounds/acts like somebody from a wider audience.

Edinburgh would be psycho to let him go, he's good enough to push on to full Scotland honours, he breaks the mould of what a scottish rugby player looks like and he's a life long Edinburgh fan. Losing him to Glasgow would be a farce.

It's a very good point, and one I hadn't really considered. I'm usually not for moving players between the two clubs, but I do think a bit of re-balancing in the BR would be sensible for all parties - and it wouldn't necessarily need to be Crosbie who moved.

Edinburgh: Richie, Haining, Kunuvalo, Sykes, Watson, Crosbie, Boyle, Darge, Mata, Bradbury and Muncaster and Mann in the academy.

Compare that to the Glasgow BR and it's night and day. I don't think there is a conspiracy or anything, and Glasgow have more depth in other positions, just doesn't seem sensible for all of those players to be at one club.

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Post by RDW Thu 09 Jul 2020, 10:42 am

To be fair he'd hardly be the first player the cross the vinegar / chippy sauce divide. The thought of Weir, Bennett and pyrgos playing for Edinburgh would have been completely unthinkable when they were at Glasgow, but it was the best move for their careers.

Of course I'd like to keep him, but the difference in quality back row options between the clubs is vast.

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Post by Tramptastic Thu 09 Jul 2020, 10:52 am

It's madness when you compare the BR stocks.

I think most Edinburgh fans are expecting Watson to move on soon and Mata will eventually get pinched by a French or Japanese club so this overstock of BR is probably Cockerill planning for the future i.e. let Boyle, Darge, Sykes, Muncaster and Mann learn off Watson and Mata whilst they can.

I don't think there's anything wrong with west to east/east to west shifty aboot, it can revive careers & open up space. That being said, it's all dependant on how the club wants to portray itself. Cockerill hasdobviously identified a disconnect between the city and the team when he came on board, with the team playing in a hollow atmosphere and sounding like a bunch of posh boys who can't front up. Having a hard nosed Livingston flanker is the exact kind of player he wants. If the likes of Crosbie subsequently shift to the working class nirvana that is Glasgow then it just perpetuates the stereotype that Glasgow is working class and Edinburgh is only for posh people.

Still shocked at the retirement of Smith, GW and the SRU have a lot to answer for that talent quitting rugby so early.

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Post by tigertattie Thu 09 Jul 2020, 11:46 am

Just to cheer us up

I’ve not been “up the toon” since covid started so it’s nice to see some progress on the home front
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Post by EST Thu 09 Jul 2020, 12:20 pm

tigertattie wrote:Just to cheer us up

I’ve not been “up the toon” since covid started so it’s nice to see some progress on the home front
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Looks like it's going to be a cracking wee stadium when its all complete.

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Post by bsando Thu 09 Jul 2020, 2:23 pm

I can't wait to go to a game at the new stadium when it's up and running! It looks like it'll have a much better atmosphere for the players and fans. Just need the Edinburgh promotional team to think up some good chants now. "We are Edinburgh! Scotland's greatest club!" perhaps? Or "We are Edinburgh! Please don't be too loud!" maybe?

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Post by bsando Thu 09 Jul 2020, 6:29 pm

RDW wrote:Finlay Christie is starting for the Blues in the top table clash against the Crusaders on Saturday.

That's a huge test for the young scrum half. Will be well worth seeing how he gets on pulling the strings against Crusaders.

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Post by BigGee Thu 09 Jul 2020, 6:41 pm

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/i-guarantee-there-are-two-or-three-darcy-grahams-running-about-the-streets-of-hawick-the-talent-is-still-there-moffat-borders/

Rob Moffat back down in the borders and banging the drum. Goodness knows, he has been a great servant to Scottish rugby and it does not look like he is done yet thankfully.

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Post by RDW Thu 09 Jul 2020, 9:59 pm

Sean Maitland signs on at Sarries. Shame - he would have been a great asset fro Glasgow.

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Post by demosthenes Thu 09 Jul 2020, 10:26 pm

RDW wrote:Sean Maitland signs on at Sarries. Shame - he would have been a great asset fro Glasgow.

I thought he (Maitland) had confirmed that about a month ago?

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Post by RDW Thu 09 Jul 2020, 10:56 pm

Probably, but they just announced it formally.

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Post by EST Fri 10 Jul 2020, 9:16 am

Big show of faith from Maitland there - pretty much forgoing a money spinning final contract in France/Japan. Probably a good thing for Scotland at this stage in his career.

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Post by bsando Fri 10 Jul 2020, 10:02 am

Yeah from what I’ve seen he’s pretty settled with his daughters and missus in London so I doubt he’d have wanted to uproot that. Saracens will bounce back too I imagine so it’ll be a good challenge for him and his teammates.

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Post by BigGee Fri 10 Jul 2020, 10:07 am

bsando wrote:Yeah from what I’ve seen he’s pretty settled with his daughters and missus in London so I doubt he’d have wanted to uproot that. Saracens will bounce back too I imagine so it’ll be a good challenge for him and his teammates.

I don't think an easier year in the championship will do him any harm at this stage in his career and might even prolong his playing days for another contract after this one.

It will be interesting to see just how much some of the Sarries internationals do actually play next season. They could put some cricket scores on sides if they did decide to go out all guns blazing. I don't imagine that will happen though and I think they will mainly play their youngsters giving the internationals the odd run out to stay fit. They should still have plenty in hand over most of the teams they will play, some of whom won't even be playing full time next season.

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Post by EST Fri 10 Jul 2020, 10:14 am

BigGee wrote:
bsando wrote:Yeah from what I’ve seen he’s pretty settled with his daughters and missus in London so I doubt he’d have wanted to uproot that. Saracens will bounce back too I imagine so it’ll be a good challenge for him and his teammates.

I don't think an easier year in the championship will do him any harm at this stage in his career and might even prolong his playing days for another contract after this one.

It will be interesting to see just how much some of the Sarries internationals do actually play next season. They could put some cricket scores on sides if they did decide to go out all guns blazing. I don't imagine that will happen though and I think they will mainly play their youngsters giving the internationals the odd run out to stay fit. They should still have plenty in hand over most of the teams they will play, some of whom won't even be playing full time next season.

Yeah, I imagine a year in the championship could be quite attractive for an older player who has been on the pro treadmill for years and has already played in massive games. Argument to say that these players could be under-prepared for international games, but they are all experienced and talented players and you would think be able to pick up where they left off.


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Post by NeilyBroon Fri 10 Jul 2020, 10:37 am

I'd be more worried if it was one of our key forwards playing in the championship. I think the impact may be less profound on a winger, although it'll be harder to make a case for selection if he's not playing in the prem or heineken. I wouldn't be surprised if this is an unofficial pathway for his international retirement anyway. He's not old but I expect he may be thinking that seeing as he's likely not going to be at the next world cup and is on a comfortable living at Sarries he'll be looking to wind down. I'd have no worries about Darcy Graham getting more time in his place as he offers his own skills and it wouldn't be a drop in quality defensively, and possibly an improvement offensively (although sleepy Sean is a superb link player which will be missed when he goes). On the other wing Kinghorn has been doing well and will fill in the wing-fullback role.

Beyond that we just need a few of the youngsters to step up at club next season and hopefully we'll be sorted for wings!

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Post by EST Fri 10 Jul 2020, 12:07 pm

NeilyBroon wrote:I'd be more worried if it was one of our key forwards playing in the championship. I think the impact may be less profound on a winger, although it'll be harder to make a case for selection if he's not playing in the prem or heineken. I wouldn't be surprised if this is an unofficial pathway for his international retirement anyway. He's not old but I expect he may be thinking that seeing as he's likely not going to be at the next world cup and is on a comfortable living at Sarries he'll be looking to wind down. I'd have no worries about Darcy Graham getting more time in his place as he offers his own skills and it wouldn't be a drop in quality defensively, and possibly an improvement offensively (although sleepy Sean is a superb link player which will be missed when he goes). On the other wing Kinghorn has been doing well and will fill in the wing-fullback role.

Beyond that we just need a few of the youngsters to step up at club next season and hopefully we'll be sorted for wings!

I hope we get another year or so out of him, even if Darcy starts games he would be a great bench option. I'm a fully paid up member of the Sleepy Sean fanclub - made it into a lions squad, arguably the most consistent performer in a Scotland jersey over the last 3/4 years and cemented a starting place in one of the best club teams to ever exist - we're gonna miss him when he hangs up his boots for Scotland.

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Post by NeilyBroon Fri 10 Jul 2020, 12:10 pm

EST wrote:
NeilyBroon wrote:I'd be more worried if it was one of our key forwards playing in the championship. I think the impact may be less profound on a winger, although it'll be harder to make a case for selection if he's not playing in the prem or heineken. I wouldn't be surprised if this is an unofficial pathway for his international retirement anyway. He's not old but I expect he may be thinking that seeing as he's likely not going to be at the next world cup and is on a comfortable living at Sarries he'll be looking to wind down. I'd have no worries about Darcy Graham getting more time in his place as he offers his own skills and it wouldn't be a drop in quality defensively, and possibly an improvement offensively (although sleepy Sean is a superb link player which will be missed when he goes). On the other wing Kinghorn has been doing well and will fill in the wing-fullback role.

Beyond that we just need a few of the youngsters to step up at club next season and hopefully we'll be sorted for wings!

I hope we get another year or so out of him, even if Darcy starts games he would be a great bench option.  I'm a fully paid up member of the Sleepy Sean fanclub - made it into a lions squad,  arguably the most consistent performer in a Scotland jersey over the last 3/4 years and cemented a starting place in one of the best club teams to ever exist - we're gonna miss him when he hangs up his boots for Scotland.

I just hope his career with Scotland ends better than Tommy Seymours!

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Post by RDW Fri 10 Jul 2020, 12:28 pm

Interview with Ritchie Gray from Glasgow social media - I'm amazed he's only 30! He actually looks a lot more trim than he used to be too.

That's very much in the prime age for a lock - if he can get his body in one piece (a big if) he's very much not done yet.

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Post by NeilyBroon Fri 10 Jul 2020, 12:51 pm

RDW wrote:Interview with Ritchie Gray from Glasgow social media - I'm amazed he's only 30! He actually looks a lot more trim than he used to be too.

That's very much in the prime age for a lock - if he can get his body in one piece (a big if) he's very much not done yet.

Yeah saw that too.

Barely recognised him, I thought Al Kellock had got a hair transplant!

If he stays injury-free then it's a very exciting prospect for Glasgow and Scotland. He's certainly added some strings to his bow from what I've seen of him in France. Can't believe he was only 22 when he left Glasgow, that doesn't seem right!

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Post by EST Fri 10 Jul 2020, 12:55 pm

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RDW wrote:Interview with Ritchie Gray from Glasgow social media - I'm amazed he's only 30! He actually looks a lot more trim than he used to be too.

That's very much in the prime age for a lock - if he can get his body in one piece (a big if) he's very much not done yet.

Yeah saw that too.

Barely recognised him, I thought Al Kellock had got a hair transplant!

If he stays injury-free then it's a very exciting prospect for Glasgow and Scotland. He's certainly added some strings to his bow from what I've seen of him in France. Can't believe he was only 22 when he left Glasgow, that doesn't seem right!

That's what I thought - in my head he was much older when he left, but I suppose he made his breakthrough at a very young age.

If he can stay fit, he will be a massive asset to Glasgow. Him and Cummings in the boiler room, with Naks at 8, sounds pretty good to me.

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Post by bsando Fri 10 Jul 2020, 4:52 pm

A big problem, as mentioned numerous times during Rennie's reign, was Glasgow's lack of forward dominance to compliment the talent in the backline. That happened against Saracens in Europe in that QF although I'm sure injuroes didn't help. I was at the game and it just looked so tough against that Saracens pack. I think Danny Wilson is gaining a Warriors side with a pretty decent pack to be honest.

Aki Seuli has been a great signing, Enrique Pieretto will be a great experienced tighthead option during international spells. The front row looks like it has a lot of potential with Kebble, Brown, Fagerson / Seiuli, Turner or Stewart, Pieretto. Then you have Rae, Allan, Nicol, etc etc. The 2nd row of Gray, Cummings, Nakarawa, Bain, McDonald and experienced backrow with up coming Gordon all seems pretty decent for the restart. Is Jale Vakaloloma recuperated now? He looks like a good back row option

Glasgow probably just need a ferocious ball carrier to help them out in the back row a bit. Matt Fagerson can do a job at 8 and maybe McLean will flourish and become the next Stuart Hogg.

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Post by BigGee Fri 10 Jul 2020, 9:13 pm

https://www.theoffsideline.com/richie-gray-scotland/?v=79cba1185463

Well it seems RG would like to play for Scotland again should the opportunity present itself.

You would imagine he would not be saying that unless he fancied it might be a reality.

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Post by funnyExiledScot Sat 11 Jul 2020, 8:03 am

It would be fantastic if a fully fit and firing Richie Gray could give us another 2-3 years. We are not short of decent locks, and I'll also be interested to see how Jonny Gray develops at Exeter, in a harsher environment under Rob Baxter.

Add in the powerful Gilchrist and the athletic Cummings and we are in a great place.

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Post by jimbopip Sat 11 Jul 2020, 8:08 am

funnyExiledScot wrote:It would be fantastic if a fully fit and firing Richie Gray could give us another 2-3 years. We are not short of decent locks, and I'll also be interested to see how Jonny Gray develops at Exeter, in a harsher environment under Rob Baxter.

Add in the powerful Gilchrist and the athletic Cummings and we are in a great place.

Is he any relation to Mr Invisible currently plying his trade with the Luvvies?

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Post by funnyExiledScot Sat 11 Jul 2020, 8:11 am

I'm sorry, but the chairman of the Al Kellock appreciation society doesn't get to call Grant Gilchrist invisible......

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Post by funnyExiledScot Sat 11 Jul 2020, 8:13 am

Who is Mullet? I'd have thought Tom Gordon would be a shout for the 7 jersey next season. Agree with Naka in the back row though.

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Post by jimbopip Sat 11 Jul 2020, 8:17 am

funnyExiledScot wrote:Who is Mullet? I'd have thought Tom Gordon would be a shout for the 7 jersey next season. You just answered your own question, Fes. I notice you had no difficulty spotting Mr Invisible.Agree with Naka in the back row though.

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Post by BigGee Sat 11 Jul 2020, 8:20 am

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/powered-by-family-freedom-and-square-sausage-an-injury-free-richie-gray-is-a-tantalising-scotland-prospect-again-glasgow/

A more extensive interview with RG by Jamie Lyall






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Post by funnyExiledScot Sat 11 Jul 2020, 8:30 am

jimbopip wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:Who is Mullet? I'd have thought Tom Gordon would be a shout for the 7 jersey next season. You just answered your own question, Fes. I notice you had no difficulty spotting Mr Invisible.Agree with Naka in the back row though.

Ah, I'd forgotten what Gordon looked like!!

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Post by funnyExiledScot Sat 11 Jul 2020, 8:31 am

I'm reading Doddie's autobiography at the moment which is well worth a purchase. Such a likeable guy.

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Post by jimbopip Sat 11 Jul 2020, 8:32 am

funnyExiledScot wrote:
jimbopip wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:Who is Mullet? I'd have thought Tom Gordon would be a shout for the 7 jersey next season. You just answered your own question, Fes. I notice you had no difficulty spotting Mr Invisible.Agree with Naka in the back row though.

Ah, I'd forgotten what Gordon looked like!!
But well done on recognizing Mr Invisible. drumroll

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Post by funnyExiledScot Sat 11 Jul 2020, 9:03 am

jimbopip wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
jimbopip wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:Who is Mullet? I'd have thought Tom Gordon would be a shout for the 7 jersey next season. You just answered your own question, Fes. I notice you had no difficulty spotting Mr Invisible.Agree with Naka in the back row though.

Ah, I'd forgotten what Gordon looked like!!
But well done on recognizing Mr Invisible. drumroll

I think you just made that joke twice.....is this what old age does to the mind??

It's possible that I overrate Gordon. My view is based on him outplaying Hamish Watson in one game, a rare Glasgow win. Is he actually any good?

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Post by jimbopip Sat 11 Jul 2020, 9:43 am

Ah Fes, you didn't see it first time (too busy looking at Mr Invisible?) so I thought I'd run it by you again.

The Mullet looks like an old fashioned, uncomplicated flanker. hits the opposition at every opportunity and wants to run with the ball if it's there. He's like an unsophisticated Jamie Ritchie.
I would say that he's the first choice 7 for Glasgow and that is all the evidence you need....but... Chris Fusaro is the only other genuine 7 we seem to have at the moment so we are a bit threadbare there.

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Post by RDW Sat 11 Jul 2020, 10:59 am

Gordon has literally had one good game. Time for him to step up - he's only got to show he's better than Fusaro. If he can't do that he shouldn't be a professional rugby player!


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Post by EST Sat 11 Jul 2020, 1:45 pm

Who knows with Gordon - he was generally behind Gibbins in the pecking order, but was probably the form 7 at the club when the games stopped. He isn't a huge bloke, but seems like a typically hard Kiwi.

Bit concerning that it's only him and Fusaro at the club - fully expect Wilson to try and strengthen the squad here.

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Post by funnyExiledScot Sat 11 Jul 2020, 9:10 pm

I hadn't twigged that Gordon was a Kiwi, or that he was a product of the Edinburgh rugby academy. He's probably quite good.

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Post by bsando Sun 12 Jul 2020, 8:23 am

Did anyone catch the crusaders vs blues match yesterday? I watched the replay last night. It was a tough game for both sides with some ferocious defence.

Christie didn’t do too bad but wasn’t amazing either. Positives for him were his passing which is so crisp and fast from the bottom of the ruck  (apart from one poor one that had to be scooped up by Barrett). His defensive organisation around the rucks and picking out Black for the second Blues try was very good too. The not so good was his box kicks, both a bit lengthy.  Also he missed two last ditch tackles when Crusaders made breaks, but they were tough ones though. He also seemed a little robotic at times, not playing heads up rugby. However that was probably more to do with the quality of the two sides and the fierce contest. It definitely felt like the equivalent of a big European game rather than a Premiership or Pro 14 fixture.

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Post by RDW Sun 12 Jul 2020, 8:25 am

It was a hell of a game for him to be involved in - bit of a cliché to say but definitely close to test match intensity.

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Post by bsando Sun 12 Jul 2020, 8:59 am

Yeah I totally agree! It was such small margins too but Mo’unga’s incredible restart and break seemed to swing the momentum didn’t it? So classy.

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Post by RDW Sun 12 Jul 2020, 9:23 am

Yeah that was pretty special. Beaudon who?

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Post by bsando Sun 12 Jul 2020, 9:33 am

RDW wrote:Yeah that was pretty special. Beaudon who?

Haha yeah Barrett didn't have the best game actually.

https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/duhan-ready-scotland/?fbclid=IwAR3BZej3TMt97HkxBNUEGFwdejRVCcv-r5E_I1yoKezB7mShjItlgZNn1Bk

In other news, my Saffa mate just clocked on they're losing DVDM and was giving me some abuse. This is the article he sent me

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