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Post by Geordie Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:33 pm

First topic message reminder :

Director of Rugby (Non Rugby Matters): Matt Thompson
Head Coach & DOR (Rugby Matters): Dave Walder
Forwards Coach: Micky Ward
Contacts & Collisions: Mark Wilson
Defence Coach: Mark Wilson & Dave Walder
Attack Coach: Mark Laycock (supported by Walder)
Lineout Coach: Scott Macleod
Skills Coach: Mark Laycock
S&C: Tim Payne

Current Squad:

Hookers
Jamie Blamire
George McGuigan
Charlie Maddison
Ollie Fletcher (A)
Charlie Smith (A)

Props
TH
Richard Palframan
Mark Tampin
Conor Kenny

LH
Adam Brocklebank
Conrad Cade
Mark Dormer (A)
Mike Rewcastle (A)

Both
Trevor Davison
Logo Mulipola
Phil Brantingham (A)

Locks
Greg Peterson
Sean Robinson
George Merrick
Josh Peters
Matthew Dalton
Sebastian De Chaves
Luke Coulston (A)

Back Row
Carl Fearn
Callum Chick
Connor Collett
Gary Graham
Will Welch
Philip van der Walt
Freddie Lockwood (On Loan at Jersey, dual Reg)
Tom Marshall (A)
Matt Deehan (A)
Marcus Tiffin (A)
Guy Pepper (A)

Scrum Halves
Cameron Nordii-Kelemeti
Sam Stuart
Michael Young
Josh Barton
James Blackett (A)
Ben Douglas (A)

Fly Halves
Tian Schoeman
Brett Connon
Josh Thomas
Louie Johnson (A)

Centres
Matias Moroni
Pete Lucock
George Wacokecoke
Matias Orlando
Ewan Greenlaw (A)
Jeremy Civil (A)

Centres / Wingers
Ben Stevenson
Vereimi Qorowale
Chidera Obonna (A)
Zach Kerr (A)

Wingers
Mateo Carreras
Nathan Earle
Adam Radwan
Nathan Greenwood (A)

Full Back
Tom Penny
Iwan Srephens
Elliott Obatoyinbo (Short term Contract)
Alex Tait


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Post by Geordie Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:25 pm

Apparently Wasps have lost £50m since their move to the midlands....

Scary...

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Post by king_carlos Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:24 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Apparently Wasps have lost £50m since their move to the midlands....

Scary...
Wasps finances are odd even by rugby standards. Every time their bonds have a coupon due there's articles about potential bankruptcy but they keep getting paid.

There were rumours that SISU (Cov City owners) were buying up the £35m loan bonds. In that hypothetical if Wasps keep producing the cash for interest coupons they get paid and if Wasps can't the Ricoh would default to the bond holders. Win-win for Sisu.

Not my area of expertise though I'll admit so that is from reading others views on the situation late in 2020 when Wasps had around a £1.35m coupon due in November so discussion started swirling again.

I've really no idea from reading about their finances what Richardson's long term plan might be and whether it's working in any way!

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Post by Hazel Sapling Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:59 pm

IEC revenue for Wasps dropped from £9m to £1m. Not a great sign for the path ahead. The bond is due to be reissued in May 2022 and failure to do that would be catastrophic. If someone has been buying bonds (currently selling at £88 for every £100 owed and was as low as £65 per 100 in Jan 2021), they are either about to make a bit of money or own the stadium...

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Post by Geordie Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:54 am

Things have to change up at KP...

In the pasdt we have said its down to budget issues and we cant afford a decent team etc...but that doesnt wash now...we HAVE a decent squad with players who have attacking impetus and forwards who can play a quick fast paced game.

So where is the issue....

Dean has been there 10 years...he does no coaching...he just decides on the tactics and on field style.

Dave Walder - Head Coach and Attack coach! First one for the cull...unless Deans instructions are countering what he wants to do.

Defence Coach - Nick Easter, defence has been pretty poor this season...horrendous more recently.

Lineout Coach - Scott Macleod, meh...Was a real weapon a few years back...but now...it stutters on.

Surely its time for some changes...i think we with Dean first...we need a younger more forward thinking head coach now.

We have players like Ben Stevenson, Adam Radwan, Iwan Stephenson, George Wakecoke (who barely plays Headscratch ), Tom Penny (replaced by the woeful Mike brown) Mattias Carreras, and Orlando both Argentinian internationals....and plenty of others...so why do we play a one paced, shuffle the ball on to the wings, and back again style of rugby that is so predictable and boring its unreal....
It has to stop.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:36 pm

Jonathan Thomas has just left Worcester, I wonder if he could be one who is looked at as a young coach who could do more with free reign.

I suspect it will depend on when Dean's contract is up, ideally they'd be an agreement with him to just see it out to the summer then hand over and retire or step upstairs to a more admin job.

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Post by Geordie Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:09 pm

Something has to change Sam...and the academy is just pumping out talent now....

5 in the England u20 and 2 in the Scotland U20 this year.

We cant be wasting it all.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:27 pm

It's surely is an ambitious young coach's dream. With relegation suspended there's no immediate threat next season and no mass of expectation. A strip back to the bare bones and build up again approach ala Tigers and Glaws has scope to work. If the man at the top is brave enough.

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Post by Geordie Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:54 pm

Someones just posted a stat on the unoffy...apparently in the whole time Dean has been in charge we have never had a positive points difference...even in the season we were 4th it was -51.

Thats staggering...and pretty much sums up what im saying about our attack.

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Post by Geordie Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:17 pm

Looks like quite a few are out of contract this summer....some we HAVE to keep and some we HAVE to release. ...

Sgt...who would you keep?

Id do the following....

Hookers
George McGuigan 2022 - Release to Munster

Props
Adam Brocklebank 2022 - Keep
Kyle Cooper 2022 - Release

Locks
Marco Fuser 2022- Keep

Back Row
Connor Collett 2022 - Keep
Rob Farrar 2022 - Keep
Philip van der Walt 2022 - Release

Scrum Halves
Louis Schreuder 2022 - Release

Fly Halves
Brett Connon 2022 Keep as back up to WHW and Johnson
Toby Flood 2022 - Coaching now
Joel Hodgson 2022 - Release

Centres
Matias Orlando 2022Keep
Luther Burrell 2022 - Release

Wingers
Mateo Carreras 2022 - MUST KEEP
Iwan Stephens (A) 2022 MUST KEEP

Full Back
Tom Penny 2022 Keep
Alex Tait 2022 Release

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:40 am

Not too different from your list GF, maybe change a few.

I'd look to keep Schreuder (although I heard he's off to Wuss?) & Burrell and look to offload Collett.

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Post by Geordie Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:37 am

Collett...i can see the for and against arguement.

I think we need to mix up the back row now. Too many "workhorses" ie Welch and Wilson at 6 & 7 now needs to stop.

We need a livewire 7..someone who can be a link man in attack also.

Collett could have been that but was just not favoured by richards...so now we look to the two Senior Academy lads...Pepper and Tiffen. Pepper is lightnight fast

We need to go down the route of a nice balance.

But we know Dean just doesn play kids....its all a waste.

Schreuder ah well if he goes he goes. Played a few good games but not much else.
Stuart is woeful.
Youngs barely played in a year...

So we have Kelemeti who should start next season and then Blackett the big hope in the academy.

So maybe we need another 9.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:51 am

I rate Schreuder, some of best rugby has come with him at 9....totally agree on Young/Stuart who are both sub-standard.

I couldn't believe Collett was 26, I thought he was early 20's. He doesn't offer anything at this level imo and is unlikely to improve soon.

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Post by Geordie Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:09 am

Yeah hes 26 now. I think he has played some good rugby, hes just never been consistently selected. Its always been the Wilson and Welch show.

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Post by Geordie Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:43 pm

Mark Wilson has announced his immediate retirement from rugby

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Post by king_carlos Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:45 pm

Such a shame. A fantastic player at his peak and real stalwart for Falcons.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:11 pm

Real shame for it to come to an end for him so early. Sounds like he opted out rather than was forced out, hopefully it enables him to have a better balance at home. Tough player to replace he was a machine.

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Post by Geordie Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:41 pm

Yeah...Will go down as one of the falcons greats.

I wonder if this might make Wlll Welch think about things aswell....his body is broken aswell...

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Post by Geordie Sun Feb 20, 2022 11:32 am

Just heard rhat Steve Black has died....sad news...he was some guy...

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Post by Geordie Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:34 pm

RIP Inga Tuigamala...one of our greats...

Gone too soon at 52.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:35 pm

oh man.

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Post by RiscaGame Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:38 pm

Awwww no way. He was class at Wigan too, as well as at Union.

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Post by lostinwales Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:35 pm

Don't know where to add this but just saw that Joel Vidiri has also died at the all too young age of 48 (driven by kidney issues apparently, which has been seen before in AB wings)

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Post by Geordie Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:14 pm

Wow no way....this is getting silly

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Post by king_carlos Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:43 pm

Steve Black, Inga the winger and Joeli Vidiri. A sad week for rugby.

Vidiri was part of the Auckland Blues around a time when they helped me fall in love with rugby. I was much more a cricket obsessive but played rugby at school. Our school had gap year students come over from a school in Auckland each year. One year the gap student living in our boarding house as a tutor was an avid Blues fan. His family would tape the games on VHS and post them to him to watch back. Rapidly I ended up watching them with him alongside a few other budding fans. They just played a glorious style of rugby in those days.

Lomu, Vidiri, Howlett, Muliana, Caucau, Rokocoko... Not all of them overlapped of course. For a good few years that back three was a seemingly endless stream of rugby magicians though.

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Post by Geordie Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:45 pm

Mike Brown will not be offered a new contract for next season. Hallelujah.....

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Post by doctor_grey Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:32 pm

Welcome to the race to the bottom.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:04 am

GeordieFalcon wrote:Mike Brown will not be offered a new contract for next season. Hallelujah.....

He started well but has his form has dipped like pretty much everybody else to be fair. Hopefully he's give the young lads some invaluable advice off the pitch.

Hopefully Deano will join him....

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Post by Geordie Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:57 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:Mike Brown will not be offered a new contract for next season. Hallelujah.....

He started well but has his form has dipped like pretty much everybody else to be fair. Hopefully he's give the young lads some invaluable advice off the pitch.

Hopefully Deano will join him....

Absolutely mate....Dean needs to shuffle on now. Hes a dinosaur and his training methods are clearly dated.

10 years and its the same style of moronic rugby from when he started.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:51 pm

Better start writing letters to Kundi GF. Never been a better time for a rebuild. Just need a hungry young coach to come in and shake things up.

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Post by Geordie Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:26 pm

Thats exactly what we need Sam, and to bring the right coaching team in.

We have a real good solid core group in the squad...and a few England sqaud members...

You should be able to produce better on the pitch than we've seen for so long now.

PS....i not expecting top 4 or anything...i know we'll be in the bottom half...but i just want to see some decent rugby.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:37 pm

You've got quite a young squad of mostly homegrown players. If you can move on a few of the more experienced players that aren't pulling their weight you'll have some cash to spend on targeted quality additions. At this point it's props plus a sprinkling of quality wherever else you can find it, ideally one in the backrow to replace Wilson.

Skivington and Borthwick's work should provide a template to work from. Robinson plus your hookers should mean there's a good lineout in place. Add a better rolling maul and improve the scrum and it's set up for a good attack coach with your young 10s.

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Post by Geordie Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:29 pm

We shall see Sam, but theres die hard Dean fans now saying maybe its time for a change...

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:42 pm

Lockwood is getting better every game, big future.

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Post by Geordie Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:50 pm

Yeah he looks another off the back row production line.

But he looks a much better carrier....Real heavy duty.

Add in Tiffen and Pepper...thw two young 7s and Chick, Collett (who I still really like) Basham etc and that's some real quality options.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:24 pm

Lockwood looks a bit special, rarely see such good carriers at 21 (Barbeary an obvious exception). He's got some wheels too....can see Eddie getting him in for a look sooner rather than later.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:18 pm

Yeah with Basham and Lockwood you look like you've got two go to options coming through. Lockwood certainly shifts for a big lad as well. Will they get a run to the end of the season or are the likes of Fearns and Graham back soon?

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Post by Geordie Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:04 pm

Fearns unlikely to be back Sam as he had a neck operation...Gary Graham is available.

I can see Will Welch being experienced back up next season....

I just hope Dean gets it right and sorts the tactics and coaching out

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Post by Geordie Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:33 am

Sam,
I see Blackett has pretty much confirmed that Umaga will be focusing on Full Back going forward...and with Gopperth going leaves them with Atkinson.

WhW makes sense....Dean will not be a popular man.

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Post by Geordie Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:06 am

I think the knives are well and truly out for Dean...season ticket holders refusing to renew now if he's still in charge....

Be interesting to see how the owner reacts as the dissatisfaction will get back him....he must know already..

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:32 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Sam,
I see Blackett has pretty much confirmed that Umaga will be focusing on Full Back going forward...and with Gopperth going leaves them with Atkinson.  

WhW makes sense....Dean will not be a popular man.

Tommy Matthews is still at Wasps as well. Umaga is out of contract next summer, I wonder whether Blackett was lost faith in him and parking him at 15 for a season is just a good chance to advance 10 options he wants to keep before offloading Umaga next summer.

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Post by Geordie Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:34 pm

Dean last night pretty much confirmed the move last night at the Q and A session.

Also said Robbie Smith our young former Scotland U20 hooker and Captain is off to Saints. Genuinely disappointed with that one aswell..they're getting a good young player there. A young version of George McGuigan

He did say Mark Wilson will be offered a job as a coach.

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Post by Geordie Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:40 pm

McGuigan has another year on his contract.  So should be here next season and Blamire.

Add in Fletcher who's the England u20 hooker and Charlie Smtih the England u18 hooker..and we have a canny set of hookers...

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Post by Geordie Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:51 pm

Mike brown and Will Montgomery to Ealing aswell is the rumours...

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:37 pm

Having two quality hookers, one of whom is available all season won't help Robbie Smith. Going to Saints who haven't quite settled on their preferred option. Maybe a little cash extra plus a better chance of first team rugby has swayed him. Given the ease in which you can bring in a Championship hooker to cover and given you've got age grade options as well it's not too bad a loss.

Particularly if his salary can be allocated to a greater area of need. Like prop.

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Post by Geordie Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:13 am

Prop is an interesting one...i think we're fine at loosehead.

Brocklebank is really starting to make the 1 shirt his own with some very strong scrummaging performances now. Taken time, but hes come good.

Behind him we have Cade who we loaned to Doncaster and at 24 was one of the best LH's in the champs. Then of course we have the much vaunted Brantingham coming through also.

Tight head is a bit different.

Logo...must be 35...? And hes suffered injury issues...
Palframan was signed in the summer and then out for most of the season injured, and just returned over the last few weeks.
Davison is Deans go to first choice.
Then we have young Connor Kenny, a young irish lad who we signed in the summer and he also got injured... hes just returned on Saturday night for his first game.
Then there is a young academy lad Oscar Caudle, whos huge but not really appearing to come through.

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Post by BigGee Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:37 am

So GF, Glasgow are coming calling on friday.

What sort of a team do you think Falcons will put out, are they still taking this competition seriously? They certainly struggled to put Zebre away.

Glasgow have just had a week off and all the internationals have had a rest now, so I would imagine will go fully loaded for this one.

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Post by Geordie Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:19 pm

We smashed Worcester the week before with the same side then were awful on Saturday...so litterally who knows BigGee.

Dean is taking this one very serious.

I expect a big beating.

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Post by BigGee Mon Apr 11, 2022 12:26 pm

Glasgow got an inconsistent element to them this year as well and have rarely looked great away from home.

I am not feeling so confident either!

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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:11 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Prop is an interesting one...i think we're fine at loosehead.

Brocklebank is really starting to make the 1 shirt his own with some very strong scrummaging performances now. Taken time, but hes come good.

Behind him we have Cade who we loaned to Doncaster and at 24 was one of the best LH's in the champs. Then of course we have the much vaunted Brantingham coming through also.

Tight head is a bit different.

Logo...must be 35...? And hes suffered injury issues...
Palframan was signed in the summer and then out for most of the season injured, and just returned over the last few weeks.
Davison is Deans go to first choice.
Then we have young Connor Kenny, a young irish lad who we signed in the summer and he also got injured... hes just returned on Saturday night for his first game.
Then there is a young academy lad Oscar Caudle, whos huge but not really appearing to come through.

Yeah I don't think your propping stocks are as bad as they looked a couple of years back but if you could land one quality addition with some cash freed up from trimming bits of the squad then it could help you big time. Kyle Cooper, Mulipola and Smith all heading out? That's got to free up a chunk of cash to go and sign another prop of decent quality. Not a big name but someone that can help build a platform.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:11 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Prop is an interesting one...i think we're fine at loosehead.

Brocklebank is really starting to make the 1 shirt his own with some very strong scrummaging performances now. Taken time, but hes come good.

Behind him we have Cade who we loaned to Doncaster and at 24 was one of the best LH's in the champs. Then of course we have the much vaunted Brantingham coming through also.

Tight head is a bit different.

Logo...must be 35...? And hes suffered injury issues...
Palframan was signed in the summer and then out for most of the season injured, and just returned over the last few weeks.
Davison is Deans go to first choice.
Then we have young Connor Kenny, a young irish lad who we signed in the summer and he also got injured... hes just returned on Saturday night for his first game.
Then there is a young academy lad Oscar Caudle, whos huge but not really appearing to come through.

Yeah I don't think your propping stocks are as bad as they looked a couple of yeary back but if you could land one quality addition with some cash freed up from trimming bits of the squad then it could help you big time. Kyle Cooper, Mulipola and Smith all heading out? That's got to free up a chunk of cash to go and sign another prop of decent quality. Not a big name but someone that can help build a platform.

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