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Post by NeilyBroon on Tue 11 Aug 2020, 9:30 am

First topic message reminder :

So the first plague games are to be played in less than two weeks, provided Scotland isn't overrun with the 'rona in that time.

Teams:
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Edinburgh are playing for a home semi.

Glasgow are playing for a slim chance.

Who would you like to see? Who should be starting on form (from 6 months ago...)? What changes do you think we'll see from DW? With Lance gone will we see Chamberlain on the bench? Will any more of the young new talent feature?

It's been a while since we've been able to discuss an actual game so am definitely relishing this.
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Post by RDW on Fri 21 Aug 2020, 11:54 am


TEAM NAMED FOR 1872 CUP DECIDER
21 AUGUST 2020
Glasgow Warriors Head Coach Danny Wilson has named a squad containing 17 internationals for tomorrow’s 1872 Cup decider against Edinburgh at BT Murrayfield, as his side take to the field for a competitive match for the first time in six months.

Fraser Brown will lead the side out on Saturday evening after being named as one of the squad’s co-captains earlier this week, a year after skippering the Warriors to a 34-10 victory over Edinburgh at Scotstoun.

Oli Kebble and Zander Fagerson will pack down on either side of Brown in the front row,

An all-Scotland pairing of Scott Cummings and Richie Gray forms a formidable second-row partnership, the latter in line to make his first Glasgow Warriors appearance since 2012 after re-joining the club earlier this summer.

Matt Fagerson starts at openside flanker for the first time this season, with vastly-experienced duo Rob Harley and Ryan Wilson completing the back-row.

The backline sees Ali Price get the nod at scrum-half, as Adam Hastings lines up outside him in the number 10 jersey.

Pete Horne and Nick Grigg are paired together in the centres, with both men retaining their places in the starting XV from the club’s last outing back in February.

A try-scorer in Glasgow’s last fixture at BT Murrayfield, Huw Jones starts at full-back for the first time since joining the club in 2017, as Tommy Seymour and Ratu Tagive are selected to start on the wings.


On the bench, Dylan Evans is in line to become the 311th player to represent the club after arriving on a short-term loan deal from the Scarlets to provide cover at loose-head prop.

George Turner and D’arcy Rae join Evans as the front-row replacements, whilst Kiran McDonald and Tom Gordon – winner of the club’s Most Improved Player of the Season award for 2019/20 – complete the cover for the pack.

George Horne and Niko Matawalu will be looking to make an impact from the bench if and when called upon tomorrow evening, with the pair boasting 73 tries between them in Glasgow colours.

The replacements are rounded out by Glenn Bryce, as the Alloa man caps off a week that saw him agree to a contract extension until the end of 2020 by claiming the 23 jersey.

Speaking to glasgowwarriors.org, Wilson said: “This is the first opportunity for myself and the coaching team to look at different combinations, and we’ve considered a number of factors when selecting this side.

“We’ve looked closely on how we bring our own style into the game, as well as the weapons we know that Edinburgh will bring tomorrow evening.

“We’ve had to consider our options at 15, and Huw is someone that we felt can be a real asset in that position. His running ability is second to none, and he’ll bring a lot of attacking strength.

“We’re also grateful to Scarlets for loaning us Dylan [Evans] as cover in a position where we’ve currently got a couple of injuries – he’s an athletic loose-head and he’s capable of making an impression off the bench.

“The boys have trained well this week and they’re all looking forward to getting back out and into a competitive match.”


Glasgow Warriors team to play Edinburgh in the Guinness PRO14, Saturday 22 August, kick-off 5.15pm, live on Premier Sports 1. You can follow the action in the Live Match Centre on glasgowwarriors.org. Glasgow Warriors appearances in brackets.

1. Oli Kebble (47)
2. Fraser Brown (C) (98)
3. Zander Fagerson (91)
4. Richie Gray (47)
5. Scott Cummings (68)
6. Rob Harley (230)
7. Matt Fagerson (61)
8. Ryan Wilson (168)

9. Ali Price (86)
10. Adam Hastings (42)
11. Ratu Tagive (11)
12. Pete Horne (169)
13. Nick Grigg (69)
14. Tommy Seymour (142)
15. Huw Jones (35)

Replacements

16. George Turner (47)
17. Dylan Evans (0)
18. D’arcy Rae (70)
19. Kiran McDonald (24)
20. Tom Gordon (17)
21. George Horne (55)
22. Niko Matawalu (127)
23. Glenn Bryce (28)


Changed days for Glasgow - decent enough pack, rotten backline!

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Post by RDW on Fri 21 Aug 2020, 12:02 pm

Edinburgh meanwhile have a surprising team selection, which looks to be enforced by injury

.Edinburgh team to face Glasgow Warriors in the Guinness PRO14
Saturday 22 August (kick-off 5.15pm) – live on Premier Sports


15. Blair Kinghorn (87)



14. Eroni Sau (10)

13. Mark Bennett (36)

12. Chris Dean (88)

11. Duhan van der Merwe (57)



10. Jaco van der Walt (55)

9. Nic Groom (11)



1. Rory Sutherland (81)

2. Stuart McInally (142) CAPTAIN

3. WP Nel (139)

4. Andrew Davidson*

5. Grant Gilchrist (148)

6. Luke Crosbie (39)

7. Hamish Watson (107)

8. Viliame Mata (71)



Replacements: 16. Mike Willemse (18) 17. Pierre Schoeman (40) 18. Simon Berghan (78) 19. Jamie Hodgson (6) 20. Nick Haining (11) 21. Charlie Shiel (16) 22. Nathan Chamberlain* 23. George Taylor (20)

Unavailable due to injury: Lewis Carmichael, Fraser McKenzie, Ben Toolis, Jamie Ritchie, Henry Pyrgos, Magnus Bradbury, Darcy Graham

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Post by jimbopip on Fri 21 Aug 2020, 12:05 pm

Flounder, you've been supping too many tubes of Tuohey's Ale

That's not a bad back line.
Aldi Price haircut is the Scotland half back pairing.
Tagive-Jones-Seymour is a decent back three; interesting that both wingers can play full back so Jones has two minders there.
Furra-Squigsy may be a tad on the small size but it's not as if the Luvvies centre will get their hands on the ball often enough to ask any questions beyond "Do you have any Ralgex? I've pulled a muscle in the back of my neck watching all those high kicks."

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Post by BigGee on Fri 21 Aug 2020, 1:14 pm

Well both teams a little way off full strength, adds a bit more to the lottery factor of it being the first day back at school.

You would imagine that the continuity of the Edinburgh players with their coaches and strategy will come through for them but still not an easy one to call and I won't be putting my shirt on a result for either side.

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Post by Eejit on Fri 21 Aug 2020, 1:35 pm

Back to it then lads. For all the plaudits from the East coast Gin drinkers on these boards, the Debenhams Makeup Counter XV still fails to impress when compared to the proper rugby team. Plus now that Cowboy Dave has ridden off into the sunset it should be an open and shut BP win for the Scottish international rugby factory.

Jokes aside, I trust you're all as excited at rugby coming back as I am. I might even patch the Europa League final to watch Benetton Zebre tonight.

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Fri 21 Aug 2020, 1:47 pm

Jolly decent of Cockers to throw the unwashed a bone with that team. Still, it's the hope that kills you, or more likely Duhan making mince meat of those Glasgow backs.

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Fri 21 Aug 2020, 1:50 pm

I was almost starting to worry about that Glasgow side, then I saw their midfield which is utter mince

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Post by Hazel Sapling on Fri 21 Aug 2020, 2:08 pm

Decent on both sides considering the injuries. Dylan Evans loaned from Scarlets is a new one. Sure he is looking forward to coming on against a Schoeman - Willemse - Berghan front row.

Almost got a good 15 on players listed as unavailable. Need one more back and we are there

Seiuli/Allan - Dolokoto - Nicol (Thornton)
Toolis - Nakarawa (McKenzie)
Carmichael - Bradbury - Ritchie (Bain)

Pyrgos - Thomson
Johnson - Steyn
Graham - Jones - ??

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Post by jimbopip on Fri 21 Aug 2020, 2:26 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:Jolly decent of Cockers to throw the unwashed a bone with that team. Still, it's the hope that kills you, or more likely Duhan making mince meat of those Glasgow backs.

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Post by jimbopip on Fri 21 Aug 2020, 2:27 pm

TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:I was almost starting to worry about that Glasgow side, then I saw their midfield which is utter mince

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Post by jimbopip on Fri 21 Aug 2020, 2:28 pm

Close textual analysis reveals Luvvies' tendency to mince. Shock horror.

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Post by bsando on Fri 21 Aug 2020, 3:25 pm

Darcy, Johnson and Ritchie injured?

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Post by EST on Fri 21 Aug 2020, 3:38 pm

Fagerson at 7 - looking forward to him v The Mish!

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Post by bsando on Fri 21 Aug 2020, 5:15 pm

Blade Thomson is lining up for Scarlets this weekend at blindside flanker, been a while since I saw him play. I thought he looked a little under powered at the rugby world cup but if I remember correctly he was not long recovered from a fairly long injury layoff. Might be a bit sharper now with the down time.

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Post by Eejit on Fri 21 Aug 2020, 5:33 pm

The fact remains, the luvvies and success is a bit like Jimbo and the quote function. No matter how much training, preparation and discussion that goes into it, they're just not compatible.

Death, taxes and the luvvies being constant disappointments and all that.

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Post by jimbopip on Fri 21 Aug 2020, 5:39 pm

Eejit wrote:The fact remains, the luvvies and success is a bit like Jimbo and the quote function. No matter how much training, preparation and discussion that goes into it, they're just not compatible.
I  think you'll find that I am very compatible, especially when strong drink has been taken.

Death, taxes and the luvvies being constant disappointments and all that.
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Post by RDW on Fri 21 Aug 2020, 11:41 pm

Eejit wrote:The fact remains, the luvvies and success is a bit like Jimbo and the quote function. No matter how much training, preparation and discussion that goes into it, they're just not compatible.

Death, taxes and the luvvies being constant disappointments and all that.

Laugh

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Post by tigertattie on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 1:02 am

Hey. Long time listener, first time caller.

Missed me?

Look, this game is a bit of a lottery with the time off and the fact that Glasgow have found themselves with actual rugby players in their second row.

But then they have Bob “great servant but come on now, pensioners are supposed to be shielding” Harley is on (can’t believe he’s only 30. Sheesh)

Seriously though. Cockers plan will be to bosh up the middle using our superior backrow. Superior spiritually, ecumenically and grammatically. Superior in every way. Then the ball will be given to VDM (the good one, not the retired one) to basicallly round over Pete “makes everyone else around him look good” Horne and around The little battleship.

Glasgow will be bruised, bloodied and battered by 60 mins with Edinburgh winning by at least 12

But then again it could be a lottery
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Post by jimbopip on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 8:49 am

tiger Shocked

Great to hear from you. But did it really take 11 or 12 very poorly constructed sentences to convey the core message?

Oh, in case anyone is confused tiger's core message is , "It's nearly two in the morning and I can't sleep for worrying about Big Bad Bob and all the other rough boys from the wild west coming over to trample on our little cherubs."Sad

Cheer up tiger: misery is good for the soul.

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Post by tigertattie on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 9:31 am

Maths and geography aren’t your strong points then Jimbo?
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Post by jimbopip on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 9:34 am

tiger, MrsPip knows what my strongpoints are. thumbsup

I'm unsure about the number of sentences in your post because you seem to have been heavily influenced by ee cummings in your use of puntuation.

Last time I looked Glasgow was west of Luvvietoon. How strong were the winds last night, then?

Yes tiger, I have missed you. Hug

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Post by tigertattie on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 11:40 am

It was only midnight kiss

Missed you too jimbo
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Post by RDW on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 11:43 am

Well lads I'd appreciate some commentary of the game on here - looking forward to reading it in the morning.

And no I'm not going to get up / stay up for an 02:30 kick off!

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Post by jimbopip on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 11:49 am

RDW wrote:Well lads I'd appreciate some commentary of the game on here - looking forward to reading it in the morning.

And no I'm not going to get up / stay up for an 02:30 kick off!

Typically fainthearted Luvvie response.

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Post by bsando on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 12:39 pm

RDW wrote:Well lads I'd appreciate some commentary of the game on here - looking forward to reading it in the morning.

And no I'm not going to get up / stay up for an 02:30 kick off!

Don’t worry I’ll make sure you get some factually correct and intelligible commentary on the sequence of events Very Happy

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Post by RDW on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 12:49 pm

bsando wrote:
RDW wrote:Well lads I'd appreciate some commentary of the game on here - looking forward to reading it in the morning.

And no I'm not going to get up / stay up for an 02:30 kick off!

Don’t worry I’ll make sure you get some factually correct and intelligible commentary on the sequence of events  Very Happy

First time for everything on here!

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Post by jimbopip on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:11 pm

Flounder, the Luvvies are holding their own and don't look too shabby! Mind you it's still ten minutes to kick off.

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:13 pm

So ready for this, it’s been a long time coming!

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Post by BigGee on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:20 pm

McInally wins first pen on a turnover. Refs blowing very quick as they have been doing elsewhere

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Post by BigGee on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:22 pm

and another pen, Fagerson not rolling away.

VDW kicks it clean.

Sluggish start from Glasgow

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Post by tigertattie on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:22 pm

Thought the beeb were doing radio commentary? Would much rather listen to the whimsical Ramblings of Peter Wright
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Post by BigGee on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:24 pm

Jones takes his first high ball clean, but another kickable pen to Edinburgh

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Post by BigGee on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:25 pm

6-0 Edinburgh

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:26 pm

Great tackle Bennett and another Edinburgh penalty

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Post by BigGee on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:27 pm

Huw Jones gets a hospital pass from Tagive and another pen, this ones goes to the line

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:29 pm

Absolute penalty fest so far, like most of the games so far

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Post by BigGee on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:30 pm

Somewhat predictably, it has been a penalty fest so far. It will take a few games for the new interpretation to sink in

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:32 pm

Close call that forward pass, Duhan was away in some space if that hadn’t been called

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Post by BigGee on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:33 pm

First scrum pen to Warriors

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Post by BigGee on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:34 pm

Hastings kicks a good pen

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Post by BigGee on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:39 pm

Edinburgh make a horlicks of that one

First try to Glasgow with some serious afters

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:39 pm

Very soft try Glasgow, followed by a nice bit of a fight

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Post by BigGee on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:42 pm

McInally grabs Hastings round the neck and that set it off

Restart with a pen for Glasgow

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Post by bsando on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:42 pm

Re-start with a penalty?! Is that even a rule?

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Post by BigGee on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:44 pm

Glasgow turn down a kickable pen, they need the TBP

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Post by BigGee on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:56 pm

Groom nips over from close range after an extended spell of pressure

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:56 pm

Nice little dart by Groom and its a Edinburgh try after a lot of phases of pick and go. Better accuracy there

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Post by BigGee on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:57 pm

13-10 Edinburgh

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:57 pm

13-10 to Edinburgh now

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Post by bsando on Sat 22 Aug 2020, 5:57 pm

Groom, Dean and Bennett have been very sharp so far despite the slow and mistake ridden first 30 mins. Sutherland still looks good and Nel looks a bit fresher than he was pre covid

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