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Post by Soul Requiem on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 2:23 pm

alfie wrote:Not sure why you chaps wanted Billings at five ?  I know Buttler has mislaid his run scoring the last two games ; but he's been in rare form over the previous few weeks and I don't think he needs protecting Smile

Fifty for YJB clap

Zampa has started really well...

Were Stokes in the side he'd be batting five to consolidate the innings before upping the run rate himself and setting it up for a Buttler charge in the last 15 overs, that theory should stay the same with Billings in the side for. Hoping Jos proves me wrong however.

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Post by Gooseberry on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 2:24 pm

Soul Requiem wrote:
alfie wrote:Not sure why you chaps wanted Billings at five ?  I know Buttler has mislaid his run scoring the last two games ; but he's been in rare form over the previous few weeks and I don't think he needs protecting Smile

Fifty for YJB clap

Zampa has started really well...

Were Stokes in the side he'd be batting five to consolidate the innings before upping the run rate himself and setting it up for a Buttler charge in the last 15 overs, that theory should stay the same with Billings in the side for. Hoping Jos proves me wrong however.

Kiss of death!

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 2:24 pm

Another gifted wicket to Zampa, oh dear.
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Post by Duty281 on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 2:26 pm

Another tame dismissal to Zampa.

96/4 - going to have to be a monumental effort to win from here!

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Post by Soul Requiem on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 2:29 pm

Gooseberry wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
alfie wrote:Not sure why you chaps wanted Billings at five ?  I know Buttler has mislaid his run scoring the last two games ; but he's been in rare form over the previous few weeks and I don't think he needs protecting Smile

Fifty for YJB clap

Zampa has started really well...

Were Stokes in the side he'd be batting five to consolidate the innings before upping the run rate himself and setting it up for a Buttler charge in the last 15 overs, that theory should stay the same with Billings in the side for. Hoping Jos proves me wrong however.

Kiss of death!

Sometimes things are too obvious.

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Post by alfie on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 2:29 pm

Gooseberry wrote:Think we might see a few overs of England taking the foot off the gas after that

Yes they've throttled back a bit. Don't really need to race after a productive first ten , but don't want to lose any more wickets just yet. Both have been quite restrained against Zampa - not the usual style for either of these fellows...

Ball seems to coming on to the bat for strokes all right. But these unequal boundaries and the strong breeze have them a bit cautious.

Oops ! Buttler gone to a sharp catch and Zampa has two : didn't need that. 96/4 in the nineteenth is a precarious situation...


Light relief ...world record for daft reviews Smile

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 2:29 pm

How on earth did Zampa think that was LBW?
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Post by alfie on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 2:35 pm

Soul Requiem wrote:
Gooseberry wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
alfie wrote:Not sure why you chaps wanted Billings at five ?  I know Buttler has mislaid his run scoring the last two games ; but he's been in rare form over the previous few weeks and I don't think he needs protecting Smile

Fifty for YJB clap

Zampa has started really well...

Were Stokes in the side he'd be batting five to consolidate the innings before upping the run rate himself and setting it up for a Buttler charge in the last 15 overs, that theory should stay the same with Billings in the side for. Hoping Jos proves me wrong however.

Kiss of death!

Sometimes things are too obvious.

Ha ... Yeah with hindsight I wish they'd followed your choices Smile

I thought that was your idea . But I just felt with a good pitch and the new ball gone I'd as soon have Jos in with plenty of time to build and go hard later. Not happening today , sadly. But he's good at dealing with spin usually so I don't think it was a bad choice to leave the order undisturbed... Just didn't pay off today.

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:08 pm

England still on course for a 300+ score here if Bairstow and Billings hang around for another 10 overs.
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:09 pm

I miss oulde Trebell, anyone heard of him lately?
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Post by alfie on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:15 pm

eirebilly wrote:I miss oulde Trebell, anyone heard of him lately?

I haven't seen him on here for ages. Hope he's all right.

Times we could use his hexing powers Smile

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Post by Duty281 on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:17 pm

Solid rebuild from the two Bs, but we're getting to the stage now where England will have to take the attack to Australia. Could equal a flurry of runs, might lead to a crash of wickets.

Going to need a decent contribution from the lower-order again!

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:22 pm

alfie wrote:
eirebilly wrote:I miss oulde Trebell, anyone heard of him lately?

I haven't seen him on here for ages. Hope he's all right.

Times we could use his hexing powers Smile

He was the king of the Hex's Very Happy

One of these two have to go now and attack i feel.
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Post by eirebilly on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:25 pm

Nice 6 from Billings clap
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Post by alfie on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:25 pm

Billings had enough of messing about...hits Starc nearly out of the ground thumbsup

168/4. Time for a drink...

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Post by king_carlos on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:28 pm

This is shaping up to be another really good game.

I'm feeling pessimistic that it's the sort of pitch that might look like a much better batting wicket if Warner and Finch get in on it. It's doing a bit for the spinners but doesn't seem to have many demons in it. England have what seem to be their first choice bowlers in the side though.

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Post by king_carlos on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:33 pm

I'm actually glad that free hit only went for 2. The free hit for a bowler hitting the non-strikers stumps rule does irk me. It's one of those that's inconsequential until it happens in a World Cup final and the free hit goes for 6.

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Post by Duty281 on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:34 pm

Yes, England are going to need top spells from Archer and Rashid to win this game. If Wood can bowl like he did in the recent T20, that would be much obliged as well. Hopefully the cloud cover will aid Woakes and Curran.

Another 6 for Billings! Still a decent chance of making 300.

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Post by Soul Requiem on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:35 pm

king_carlos wrote:I'm actually glad that free hit only went for 2. The free hit for a bowler hitting the non-strikers stumps rule does irk me. It's one of those that's inconsequential until it happens in a World Cup final and the free hit goes for 6.

I'd be happy with it being called a wide to be honest; Finn was doing it so much at one point that something had to be done but not sure a free hit is the right way to go about it.

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Post by alfie on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:37 pm

Billings another six off Starc...bit of a flick off the pads that one ! He's going up the gears after a careful start.

Bairstow has been contained lately by some good bowling. But England still have fifteen overs to bat so time to accelerate yet. Here comes Zampa again now...

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Post by king_carlos on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:38 pm

This is impressive counter attacking from Billings off Starc. Finch has brought his best death bowler back early to try to reclaim some momentum and Billings has played him well.

I was a Billings skeptic as an England fan. I thought he was a good white ball player but not quite good enough to keep demanding chances when there is a backlog of good one day batsman. He has impressed from tough situations though.

As I typed that he got lucky with one spooned in the air I will add...

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:39 pm

Billings on the charge now, great to see.
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Post by alfie on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:39 pm

Fifty for Billings clap

Having a good white ball season... Looks as if he's after Zampa in this spell...

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:40 pm

Excellent 50 for Billings clap
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Post by king_carlos on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:41 pm

Zampa now being targeted. These two are doing what England largely haven't in this series. They are playing Australia's best bowlers well when they return for their 2nd and 3rd spells.

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Post by Duty281 on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:41 pm

With Stokes out of the team, Billings has really grasped his chance this summer. Another very good innings which has given England, at the very least, a fighting chance.

100 partnership. clap

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Post by Gooseberry on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:45 pm

Century for Bairstow now. Must be Englands top batsman currently.

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Post by alfie on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:45 pm

Outrageous six off Cummins to take YJB to his hundred clap clap

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:46 pm

Excellent way to bring up the ton by Bairstow.
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Post by Duty281 on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:46 pm

Ton up for Bairstow with an exhibition of fast hands. clap

10 ODI tons! Only three players ahead of him for England - Root on 16, Morgan on 13, Trescothick on 12. Roy and Buttler on 9.

Follows up with a brutal 4.

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Post by Soul Requiem on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:47 pm

Billings looks ten times the player who was given countless chances to impress, aside from that one Ireland game the pitches haven't been the easiest to get in on.

Very well played from Bairstow getting to a well deserved century, has been so smart in how he's constructed this innings, got the momentum in Englands direction with some early aggression and has consolidated well from there, the charge could be on.

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Post by Gooseberry on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:48 pm

Duty281 wrote:Billings has really grasped his chance this summer.

About to echo this .... Rolling Eyes

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:48 pm

Bollix, soft out to Zampa again but well played Billings.
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Post by Duty281 on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:50 pm

Billings out, but England are in a decent position now. Important that Woakes and the rest of the lower order don't get bogged down, keep rotating the strike until 'set'.

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Post by alfie on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:51 pm

Zampa again ! Billings got under that and the fun comes to an end...

Was a good knock though. Got England back on track in that partnership.

215/5 , twelve left. Still some bats left...

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Post by JDizzle on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:58 pm

Duty281 wrote:Ton up for Bairstow with an exhibition of fast hands. clap

10 ODI tons! Only three players ahead of him for England - Root on 16, Morgan on 13, Trescothick on 12. Roy and Buttler on 9.

Follows up with a brutal 4.

Trescothick’s record really is brilliant for the era he played in.

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Post by alfie on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:58 pm

Mitch Marsh has done a good job for Australia today. Pretty economical in his fifth over. You couldn't say England have exactly targeted the fifth bowler.

And Zampa , despite taking some tap from Billings , has largely kept the brakes on too.

220/5. England need a good last ten.

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Post by Gooseberry on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 3:59 pm

Turning into a car crash now!

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Post by Duty281 on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 4:00 pm

Ahhh Bairstow done for 112. Clever ball from Cummings.

Advantage Australia once more. Can T Curran repeat the trick of Sunday?

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 4:00 pm

Oh dear, Bairstow out. What a great ball by Cummins though.
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Post by alfie on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 4:02 pm

Rats ! Bairstow gone just as he looked like charging in the last ten...

On the other hand , that ball moved off the pitch like a fast off break ! Batting might not be that easy for Australia after all...

Brilliant bowling from Cummins ; but you don't see that movement from a seamer every day .

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Post by Duty281 on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 4:06 pm

alfie wrote:Rats ! Bairstow gone just as he looked like charging in the last ten...

On the other hand , that ball moved off the pitch like a fast off break ! Batting might not be that easy for Australia after all...

Brilliant bowling from Cummins ; but you don't see that movement from a seamer every day .

Pitch has also noticeably slowed up since the match started, so I'm more optimistic about England's chances. Still need 275+ though which could be a tough ask.

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Post by alfie on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 4:08 pm

Should note that was a wonderful innings from Bairstow , by the way. Terrific counter attack after the 0/2 start ; and then held things together as the other wickets fell. Took a remarkable delivery to do for him...

Pity though: if he'd stayed in I fancy he might have smashed a few in the death overs. Lot up to these two now.

Zampa 3/51 from his ten clap

Not bad for a flaming Vegan Smile

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Post by Gooseberry on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 4:19 pm

JDizzle wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Ton up for Bairstow with an exhibition of fast hands. clap

10 ODI tons! Only three players ahead of him for England - Root on 16, Morgan on 13, Trescothick on 12. Roy and Buttler on 9.

Follows up with a brutal 4.

Trescothick’s record really is brilliant for the era he played in.

Indeed.

Genuine debate on whos the greatest England ODI bat. The only two who really stand out from previous generations (and this makes me feel old!) are Tresco and KP.

Root though has the most absurd average for and England player, still over 50 despite a terrible run recently. Bairstow is the only guy to come close to this with an average 47, but at nearly a run an over faster than Root has scored, and is now averaging 50 as an opener since being given that role.

When you look at that list of century scorers they have all played vastly more ODIs than Bairstow, although playing largely as an opener has given him the advantage in terms of time in an innings.

Morgans total number of runs in the format for an England player, even discounting the ones for Ireland, may well never be surpassed, but that has come with a ridiculous number of caps. Historically for England his average and SR certainly arent shabby, but arent in the Root/Bairstow class.


Controversial point made elsewhere.... with Roy out of form Billings has previously played for England as an opener in this format. I suspect England will continue to give Roy opportunities to play his way back into form in India/Sri Lanka , and it will be harder for Billings to force a case if hes sat on the bench.

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Post by eirebilly on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 4:23 pm

Showing my age here but i would throw in Neil Fairbrother as one of England's finest ODI batsmen. He was one of the best finishers in the game back in the day when big scores were not the norm. Him and Australia's Michael Bevan were a joy to watch finish off games.
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Post by king_carlos on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 4:28 pm

260/6 with 4 overs to go. Given Rashid, Wood and Archer can all wield the willow it's time to just swing at everything me thinks!

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Post by Gooseberry on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 4:33 pm

eirebilly wrote:Showing my age here but i would throw in Neil Fairbrother as one of England's finest ODI batsmen. He was one of the best finishers in the game back in the day when big scores were not the norm. Him and Australia's Michael Bevan were a joy to watch finish off games.

Hes not that old, he played a few games for England alongside Flintoff

(or maybe thinking the start of Flintoffs career as recent just makes us really old)

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Post by Gooseberry on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 4:38 pm

Looks like this game will be pretty well in the balance at innings change. England will have wanted more, but Australia have struggled chasing and their tails always going to mean they cant afford to shop wickets as softly as England have at times.

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Post by alfie on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 4:39 pm

Woakes striking the ball well...

Starc has done some damage but he's also gone for a few today. Into his last and already over 70 with that six from Rashid !

Could 300 still be on ?

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Post by alfie on Wed 16 Sep 2020, 4:44 pm

Gooseberry wrote:Looks like this game will be pretty well in the balance at innings change. England will have wanted more, but Australia have struggled chasing and their tails always going to mean they cant afford to shop wickets as softly as England have at times.

The stats on chasing in ODI on this ground suggest Australia have a lot to do...

Think the last nine or ten games here have gone to the side that batted first. And the highest chase is well south of this total.

Means nothing , of course. History is just ...history. But I suspect England might be the happier side at the interval.

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