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Post by NeilyBroon on Thu 24 Sep 2020, 12:16 pm

First topic message reminder :

Another chat thread dedicated to speculation, rumination, and general perambulation through the trials and tribulations of the club from the west with no forwards and the club from the east without a backs coach.

One day we'll have more rugby to talk about!
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Post by BigGee on Sat 19 Dec 2020, 10:07 pm

Even the commentators were making noise about the poor condition that Mata was in, he looks a shadow of the player he was a couple of years ago and won't do anything for his market value.

I know he is just back from injury, but you have to ask how he has been allowed to get into that shape

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Post by RDW on Sat 19 Dec 2020, 10:18 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:Also think Groom is our best 9. Just slicker and smarter than the other two. Shiel for the bench. Pyrgos 3rd choice now.

Agreed on this. Groom fits perfectly with how we play and Sheil offers impact that Pyrgos doesn't.

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Sat 19 Dec 2020, 10:30 pm

BigGee wrote:Even the commentators were making noise about the poor condition that Mata was in, he looks a shadow of the player he was a couple of years ago and won't do anything for his market value.

I know he is just back from injury, but you have to ask how he has been allowed to get into that shape

Probably on the Ben Atiga diet.

Perhaps Edinburgh fattening him up so he can't get a contract anywhere else!! You should have put Hastings on the pies...

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Post by RDW on Sat 19 Dec 2020, 10:33 pm

Laugh

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Post by BigGee on Sun 20 Dec 2020, 1:43 pm

Rumours of Shuggy heading to London Irish next season.

I think he will undoubtedly go, it is just a question of where. Sarries and Quins also supposedly interested.

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Post by NeilyBroon on Sun 20 Dec 2020, 3:01 pm

BigGee wrote:Rumours of Shuggy heading to London Irish next season.

I think he will undoubtedly go, it is just a question of where. Sarries and Quins also supposedly interested.

No bad choices there really. L.I look like they're going places, as do quins. Sarries will probably return to being a force soon enough. I think he's better off away from Glasgow, he should've been released under Rennie tbh.
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Post by Hazel Sapling on Sun 20 Dec 2020, 4:27 pm

Huw Jones should have been allowed to go to Leicester when the opportunity presented itself though they have not exactly set the heather alight recently.

If he does go, Sarries would be the best place for him. Tompkins and Lozowski are both flight risks and Barritt has retired. Taylor and Morris are likely the core centres there if both loanees don't come back although Farrell and Daly offer quality cover. The coaches are excellent and will get the most out of H Jones.

Quins have Marchant and Brown for OC and FB respectively. LI have a decent squad and have had an incredible academy for year but Sarries have got the best out of the Scots.

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Sun 20 Dec 2020, 4:29 pm

Hopefully wherever he chooses will work out for him and we’ll see him get back to his best. He really shouldn’t have signed that last extension with Glasgow, it’s never worked out for him there

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Post by BigGee on Sun 20 Dec 2020, 6:45 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/55386828

Duncy back to Glasgow?

Not such a bad move really, an experienced player who will likely be around all season and is a bona fida FH. If we could manage an exciting youngster to go with him, like Healy, that would likely be the ideal combination.

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Post by NeilyBroon on Sun 20 Dec 2020, 7:06 pm

I expected that may happen. It seems the most logical move. Then he can mentor the youngsters like Thompson, would unlikely be called up again unless we're in dire straits with the national squad so definitely a good squad member to have.
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Post by RDW on Sun 20 Dec 2020, 9:30 pm

On Jones - there's no doubt he needs to leave Glasgow, I just hope from a Scotland PoV he makes a good decision as to where.

On Weir - that would be a great move for both parties. He's only 29 so got plenty time left. And the way rugby is just now, and with Glasgow not exactly the attacking force they used to be, he much better fits with Glasgow's style than his previous spell there. He's a passionate Weegie and I'm sure this was always his dream to come back.

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Post by RDW on Mon 21 Dec 2020, 4:02 am

Just watched the first half highlights from the Edinburgh game (I saw the second) - the Sale tries were pretty terrible efforts from Mata and Bennett.

Bennett was just completely out of position. He made up for it with good determination to get his try though - he's scored a few of those types for Edinburgh now.

For the Mata one, he was jogging across the pitch and gave up part of the way through. First of all it's really not a good sign of his fitness if he was jogging in the first place, then made even worse by him giving up. If he'd kept going he would have been there to cover the Sale guy stepping back in. We still would have been in trouble but he'll hopefully get blasted in the post-game review. He's just not fit!

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Post by BigGee on Mon 21 Dec 2020, 8:24 am

There are rumours a few teams are after Mata at the end of this season.

At the moment he is not doing much to push up his market value.

Hopefully he is just building fitness after his injury but at the moment he is not the player he was two seasons ago.

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Post by George Carlin on Mon 21 Dec 2020, 8:52 am

Hello all - hope you're all easing into the festive season.

It's been a depressing end to the year for Scottish rugby. I just hope to hell that getting the internationals bank will make a difference because this is the worst collective start to the season that I can remember.
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Post by RDW on Mon 21 Dec 2020, 8:58 am

I saw this on Twitter and don't even know if they were being serious or not

Let's assume Sam Johnson and Niko leave also. Seymour retires.

Next season's Glasgow backline could be.

Bryce
Jones
Grigg
P. Horne
Tagive
Weir
Price.

It doesn't look that bad.

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Post by NeilyBroon on Mon 21 Dec 2020, 10:00 am

Bhatti moving to bath with immediate effect. Hopefully he gets his career back on track. Competition at loosehead is always needed.
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Post by jimbopip on Mon 21 Dec 2020, 10:51 am

George Carlin wrote:Hello all - hope you're all easing into the festive season. Don't get me started on that. If MrsPip hadn't had her hand guns confiscated after the black bin/recycling pink bags contretemps with her next door (we shall all miss her) we would all be looking for a new PM by now.

It's been a depressing end to the year for Scottish rugby.World class understatement from Ayr. I just hope to hell that getting the internationals bank will make a difference because this is the worst collective start to the season that I can remember. World class self repetition from the laddie from Ayr.

GC, you been missed. Hope all's well with the family.

Glasgow, and to a slightly lesser extent The Luvvies, have been woeful. However, the Cassandra like wailing from the west coast is, I hope, slightly exaggerated.
The Ai's and injuries have really worked against both clubs. The Execeterr debacle has cost Glasgow a lot of money...and probably a place in the Diddy Cup (spiritual home of The MFL).

The loss of Haircut revealed a huge problem; Furra Linee is the most capped back in Glasgow's history and Father Time is beginning to slow him down, Brandon Thompson is STILL not convincing anyone that he'll ever be a first team player. Unless we have a 10 who can manage the game then the composition of the back line is academic.
Too many times this season we have put out third choice players who have then performed like third choice players.
My main concern is that if we had everyone available we still look like we'd struggle to put out two decent 23's


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Cummings-Nak Naks       Richie-McDonald
BBB-Fagerson-Mullet       Batman-???-???
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???                                 ????
Johnson                          McDowell    
Seaman                          Squiggsy      
Ratu-Shug-Niko                Nairn-Pixie-???  

The question marks are where no-one has really put their hand up and demanded the jersey. There are far too many of them.

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Post by BigGee on Mon 21 Dec 2020, 12:58 pm

Another one off the payroll at Edinburgh as Bhatti heads to Bath and a chance to kick start his career, which has not happened at Edinburgh.

That was a pretty easy one I guess and a good move for him as well.

Won't be the last to go this year though, you would imagine.

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Post by George Carlin on Mon 21 Dec 2020, 6:49 pm

jimbopip wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Hello all - hope you're all easing into the festive season. Don't get me started on that. If MrsPip hadn't had her hand guns confiscated after the black bin/recycling pink bags contretemps with her next door (we shall all miss her) we would all be looking for a new PM by now.

It's been a depressing end to the year for Scottish rugby.World class understatement from Ayr. I just hope to hell that getting the internationals bank will make a difference because this is the worst collective start to the season that I can remember. World class self repetition from the laddie from Ayr.

GC, you been missed. Hope all's well with the family.

Glasgow, and to a slightly lesser extent The Luvvies, have been woeful. However, the Cassandra like wailing from the west coast is, I hope, slightly exaggerated.
The Ai's and injuries have really worked against both clubs. The Execeterr debacle has cost Glasgow a lot of money...and probably a place in the Diddy Cup (spiritual home of The MFL).

The loss of Haircut revealed a huge problem; Furra Linee is the most capped back in Glasgow's history and Father Time is beginning to slow him down, Brandon Thompson is STILL not convincing anyone that he'll ever be a first team player. Unless we have a 10 who can manage the game then the composition of the back line is academic.
Too many times this season we have put out third choice players who have then performed like third choice players.
My main concern is that if we had everyone available we still look like we'd struggle to put out two decent 23's


Based on current/non injured form
Kebble-Chuckles-Ragnar  SueEllen-Fitter&-???
Cummings-Nak Naks       Richie-McDonald
BBB-Fagerson-Mullet       Batman-???-???
Aldi Price                        Hornito/Dobbie
???                                 ????
Johnson                          McDowell    
Seaman                          Squiggsy      
Ratu-Shug-Niko                Nairn-Pixie-???  

The question marks are where no-one has really put their hand up and demanded the jersey. There are far too many of them.
I have missed you Jim. Is Scotland completely locked in, then? Can't travel to anywhere?

I have to say that they've done about as well as they could do over here in Dubai. Just wear a mask when you go out, wash your hands and Robert remains your mother's brother.
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Post by jimbopip on Mon 21 Dec 2020, 7:06 pm

George, the mince pies and fortified wine are addling your remaining brain cell: Mrs Pip' s "no definitely not menopausal" mood swings led to us being exiled to sunny exile some decades since. Still no sign of the parole Schiz's lawyer promised us. Essex is, mostly, in teir 4. No mixing at all ... unless you're travelling to work. Or school or college.

Is Meatball the answer at 20?

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Post by jimbopip on Mon 21 Dec 2020, 7:07 pm

Freudian slip...should have been at 10 but he's as wide as two 10's.

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Post by RDW on Mon 21 Dec 2020, 9:30 pm

I know Glasgow are short of back rows, but to be relying on Meatball as back row sub they'd really be in trouble!

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Post by tigertattie on Mon 21 Dec 2020, 9:36 pm

I see rob Robertson is taking swings at Glasgow in the daily fail.

It’s a rag of a newspaper but his article is pretty accurate and seems to indicate that Glasgow players are trying to get out of there before Glasgow head towards border reviers levels of mince. Cites abandonment of the youth pathway system as the biggest failing and unless this is fixed pronto then Glasgow will be languishing at the bottom of the table for the foreseeable
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Post by RDW on Mon 21 Dec 2020, 10:09 pm

Glasgow need a bit of luck on the injury front. If they can get R Gray an Nakarawa fit then their pack has a completely different complexion, particularly during the 6N period where they won't likely be playing international.

Kyle Steyn would add cutting edge and physicality to the backline. Other than that there's not a lot that can be done - Glasgow's backs are pretty mince.

We've been saying the Glasgow back 3 - and particularly the wingers - are in need of significant improvement for years now and it's just not been happening. Bryce, Tagive, Lee Jones and Niko are alright playing Pro 14 teams during international windows but with teams at their full strength, or Europe, they're really just not good enough.

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Post by BigGee on Mon 21 Dec 2020, 10:22 pm

tigertattie wrote:I see rob Robertson is taking swings at Glasgow in the daily fail.

It’s a rag of a newspaper but his article is pretty accurate and seems to indicate that Glasgow players are trying to get out of there before Glasgow head towards border reviers levels of mince. Cites abandonment of the youth pathway system as the biggest failing and unless this is fixed pronto then Glasgow will be languishing at the bottom of the table for the foreseeable


I saw that article as well, but not entirely sure I agree with it.

Yes things are mince at Glasgow at the moment and the way the squad has been managed is a part of that, but it is by no means the only story in town.

The curtailment of last season, nit just for Glasgow but for the whole of Scottish rugby has had a massive issue and you cannot underestimate the damage the financial fall out from the lockdown has been. We are not in a position to buy our way out of this crisis and the way things re at the moment, we are not going to be able to play our way out of it either.

Edinburgh were maybe in a slightly better position than us, as their team was at a slightly different stage in its evolution to ours, bit they are not going to be immune to having their players picked off either.

What can you say to players who have already have had wages cut this year, when the governing body comes back with a lower contract offer this year, we are in no position to pay our players what they are worth just now, so bigger, better financed clubs can and will step in.

Danny Wilson was brought in with a remit to rebuild the Glasgow squad, but his means of doing so has been pulled from under him, through no fault of his own.

Of the players he cites as being poorly recruited or managed, well i maybe agree about Matt Smith, who we should have done better with, but Adam Ashe serially under achieved all his years at Glasgow and is not really a loss to me. Leone Nakarawa, well we don't really know how that would have played out had he been able to play more games. We were actually doing well just at the point of lockdown, beating sale and drawing with Exeter, who went on to win remember, it was no-ones fault that he got a long term injury.

We are going to have to rebuild no doubt and we will lose more of our stars. The younger players will get their chance and hopefully in a few years will show us what they are worth. RR seems to have forgotten just how poor the U20s were a few years ago, when it was embarrassing to watch them at times. The last game I watched pre lockdown was our U20s thrashing Wales away and given the chance, that group would comfortably have played us back into the world junior group last summer. Their development has been massively effected by the epidemic as well.

It was not a very objective or constructive afrticle as far as i was concerned, but as TT says it was the Daily Mail.

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Post by bsando on Tue 22 Dec 2020, 4:24 am

Seems likely we’ll see more players leaving, however I think once the dust settles and Covid cases are under control we’ll see Glasgow bouncing back. It’s very easy to paint a gloomy picture at the moment but the strength of having only two pro teams is that they can both be bolstered quite easily when the money is available.

On the development side of things it might be good to see a few gaps opening up as some players chase their career ambitions elsewhere. As Gee says there are some talented guys who could “emerge” if they’re given the chance. It might ensure some of them don’t flatline their careers in the S6.

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Post by tigertattie on Tue 22 Dec 2020, 10:06 am

I think that the covid matter has highlighted Glasgow's current issue.

Glasgow were bringing their own players through and adding a sprinkle of "outside" talent in to fill gaps and increase the quality of the squad. Right now with the financial restrictions this is exactly the model that would work for a club where they bring through their own talent and develop them.

Glasgow haven’t been doing that in the last 2 to 3 years. Other than the odd exception (wee Horne for example), Glasgow have been relying on and playing a series of elder (past it) statesmen a la Pete Horne, Ryan Wilson, BBB or out of form/not long term options like Mr Mullett.

The other part of Glasgow is they are almost too loyal to former fan favourites. Niko and Uncle Naknaks haven’t really brought their old Glasgow days back have they?

Dave Rennie still needs to carry the can for most of this. His insistence of playing the same favourites week in week out put a total halt on the Glasgow conveyor belt for emerging talent. Rugby, at least in a season long league, is not just a 15 man game, its not even a 22 man game if you include the bench. It needs a full squad of nurtured talent. Wee Horne spent 90% of the last season sitting on the bench when he was equal to if not better than Ali Price but Ali time and time again got the lion’s share of game time. Rennie seemed to have serious confidence issues around his larger squad and Glasgow have not only not recovered from this, but the rot is continuing to cut deep and players are looking to leave to get away from it. Either because they personally aren’t getting chances like Matt Smith, or players like Hastings want to get away from a team that sadly looks to be falling away in quality.

I mean come on, any club that looks at Huw Jones and says "Nah, Grigg and Bryce are better players than you" needs to have a good long hard look at itself!
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Post by Hazel Sapling on Tue 22 Dec 2020, 10:12 am

Who is up for Glasgow and Edinburgh in summer 2021?

That will really be the limits of the exodus as English and French clubs are relying on owners to fill the gap and I can't see many clubs offering a transfer fee to get the top players out a year early. Gloucester were one of the clubs howling if their fans could not come back, they would go bust. It is hard to believe that English and French clubs are going to be flush.

It also probably works in our favour for Scotland if there is a bit of a clear out of the higher priced internationals. It will hurt for a couple of years but Ireland and Wales are going to have to burst the bank to pay their stars to stay, weakening their overall squads. Losing Hastings is a blow but if his new salary plus Brandon Thomson is now going to pay for Weir and Healy/A.N. Other it reduces Glasgow's ceiling and increases the floor.

Agree with others on youth development. It is on Wilson to pick up the pieces and we could do with a scrum coach to replace Du Plessis to make sure we keep our gains in that area of the game.

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Post by NeilyBroon on Tue 22 Dec 2020, 1:04 pm

Hazel Sapling wrote:Who is up for Glasgow and Edinburgh in summer 2021?

That will really be the limits of the exodus as English and French clubs are relying on owners to fill the gap and I can't see many clubs offering a transfer fee to get the top players out a year early. Gloucester were one of the clubs howling if their fans could not come back, they would go bust. It is hard to believe that English and French clubs are going to be flush.

It also probably works in our favour for Scotland if there is a bit of a clear out of the higher priced internationals. It will hurt for a couple of years but Ireland and Wales are going to have to burst the bank to pay their stars to stay, weakening their overall squads. Losing Hastings is a blow but if his new salary plus Brandon Thomson is now going to pay for Weir and Healy/A.N. Other it reduces Glasgow's ceiling and increases the floor.

Agree with others on youth development. It is on Wilson to pick up the pieces and we could do with a scrum coach to replace Du Plessis to make sure we keep our gains in that area of the game.

Definitely. It'd be good to travel outside of the Hampshire borders for the first time in god knows how long!

Agree with Tattie, I think this is an issue that has surfaced due to Covid and poor man management by Rennie but also think it's on Wilson to just get on and play the youngsters. This season is written off, get them in the deep end and playing. They're not short of talent, just gametime, and everyone knows that talent is pointless without experience. Some will pay off, some will not quite be there but maybe come good later, we'll never know until we try!
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Post by Hazel Sapling on Tue 22 Dec 2020, 1:09 pm

NeilyBroon wrote:
Hazel Sapling wrote:Who is up for Glasgow and Edinburgh in summer 2021?

That will really be the limits of the exodus as English and French clubs are relying on owners to fill the gap and I can't see many clubs offering a transfer fee to get the top players out a year early. Gloucester were one of the clubs howling if their fans could not come back, they would go bust. It is hard to believe that English and French clubs are going to be flush.

It also probably works in our favour for Scotland if there is a bit of a clear out of the higher priced internationals. It will hurt for a couple of years but Ireland and Wales are going to have to burst the bank to pay their stars to stay, weakening their overall squads. Losing Hastings is a blow but if his new salary plus Brandon Thomson is now going to pay for Weir and Healy/A.N. Other it reduces Glasgow's ceiling and increases the floor.

Agree with others on youth development. It is on Wilson to pick up the pieces and we could do with a scrum coach to replace Du Plessis to make sure we keep our gains in that area of the game.

Definitely. It'd be good to travel outside of the Hampshire borders for the first time in god knows how long!

Agree with Tattie, I think this is an issue that has surfaced due to Covid and poor man management by Rennie but also think it's on Wilson to just get on and play the youngsters. This season is written off, get them in the deep end and playing. They're not short of talent, just gametime, and everyone knows that talent is pointless without experience. Some will pay off, some will not quite be there but maybe come good later, we'll never know until we try!

Was the issue with the youngsters that the SRU kept them on furlough longer than they should have?

Well played Neily, whose contracts are up for Glasgow and Edinburgh in 2021?

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Post by NeilyBroon on Tue 22 Dec 2020, 1:18 pm

Hmm

Glasgow:
Jones (L.I. tbc)
Hastings (Glaws confirmed)
Wee Horne
Matawalu
Thomson
Bryce

Edinburgh:
Kinghorn?
Watson (AP/T14 club tbc)
VdM (move tbc)
Graham
Bennett?


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Post by BigGee on Tue 22 Dec 2020, 1:21 pm

I think there was an issue with some players being kept on furlough for longer, not helped by Glasgow having a gap between the last two games with Edinburgh and the start of the season'

DW also hinted at some Covid related issues with some players, though he did not name anyone. This would be more likely to involve some of the youngsters as often they live in flats together.

Fundamentally though Hazel is right and this season has nothing left in it for us now. other than an outside shot at a Euro spot. I am sure we will see more players being introduced who are likely to be staying on with us for the longer term.

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Post by BigGee on Tue 22 Dec 2020, 1:27 pm

NeilyBroon wrote:Hmm

Glasgow:
Jones (L.I. tbc)
Hastings (Glaws confirmed)
Wee Horne
Matawalu
Thomson
Bryce

Edinburgh:
Kinghorn?
Watson (AP/T14 club tbc)
VdM (move tbc)
Graham
Bennett?

I think there are a few more as well at Glasgow and some will definitely go.

At SH for example, it makes absolutely no sense to waste so much of our budget on Price, Horne and Dobie, who will surely be getting an increase for his next contract.

If we lose one SH, Jones, Hastings and maybe Naks, with Tommy S likely retiring as well. that is a lot of budget suddenly freed up and gives Wilson a chance to put his own stamp on the team.

You do wonder if the SRU should be stepping in and trying to balance up some of the disparities in the two pro squads. Edinburgh have way to many back rows for instance, just as we are top heavy with SHs and hookers.

Some of the more rabis fans won't like it, but it makes sense for both squads and the Scotland team.

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Post by tigertattie on Tue 22 Dec 2020, 2:12 pm

Absolutely Glasgow and Edinburgh need to do a prisoner exchange

Wee Horne to Edinburgh and We'll give you Magnus Bradbury Hug
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Post by Hazel Sapling on Tue 22 Dec 2020, 3:00 pm

Bradbury won't move along the M8, his Mum will put a stop to that

If we were to logically have split resources:

Glasgow would have
Bhatti never would have left Glasgow (no need for Seiuli) and McCallum would have come across instead of signing Pieretto. Sykes or Davidson would have been retained by Glasgow. Two of the back rows at Edinburgh would have come across. Hoyland would have also made his way across with Fife

Edinburgh would have:
Either Turner never would have left or Stewart would have gone over instead of signing Cherry, Price along with Pyrgos (no Groom) and Kelly instead of Socino (I think he was there last year or the year before)

Reality is that the clubs are not that interchangeable as Glasgow have taken players who struggled at Edinburgh (Kennedy, Turner) and made them into decent players, and Edinburgh took internationals or good club players (G Bryce (in good form for Glasgow before he left), Weir, Bhatti, Pyrgos, Bennett) and have generally ruined them. It does feel like that is starting to change though we will see how it goes with Davidson and Sykes.

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Post by Hazel Sapling on Tue 22 Dec 2020, 3:05 pm

Out of the list that NeillyBroon put out above, got to think Glasgow may only retain Bryce.

Edinburgh will have a go at retaining all but got to think that all of them bar Kinghorn will have decent offers from abroad and may look to leave. Is Ritchie also out of contract?

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Post by BigGee on Tue 22 Dec 2020, 3:14 pm

Hazel Sapling wrote:Out of the list that NeillyBroon put out above, got to think Glasgow may only retain Bryce.

Edinburgh will have a go at retaining all but got to think that all of them bar Kinghorn will have decent offers from abroad and may look to leave. Is Ritchie also out of contract?

Not sure anyone will be queuing up for Mark Bennett these days. Does not look like the player he once was.

Graham is stiill pretty young and a little green and i can see him being happy to stsy around for a few more years.

The others though?

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Post by BigGee on Wed 23 Dec 2020, 1:02 pm

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/cotters-warning-for-fiji-star-mata-over-potential-edinburgh-exit/

Stern Vern gently reminding Mata that he needs to keep working on his fitness. He has obviously watched his last 2 games for Edinburgh!

He does seem to be a player who is prone to putting on weight if he is not under a very strict training regime. I think there was an earlier episode in his career when he came back from Fiji carrying a few pounds. he also seems to need to be at his optimum weight to maintain his explosiveness.

I think Vern is worried that going to France and discovering the joys of French cuisine won't be good for him!

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Post by BigGee on Wed 23 Dec 2020, 1:14 pm

https://www.glasgowwarriors.org/news/guinness-pro14-announce-new-structure-for-conclusion-of-2020/21-season

So no play offs this year with just a straight shot out between the top sides from each conference.

After that it is a cup competition with the 4 SA sides.

We that will make the season a bit more interesting and different. Hard to see either Glasgow or Edinburgh pushing for the first final. Hopefully we will be in a stronger position for the Rainbow cup.

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Post by NeilyBroon on Wed 23 Dec 2020, 1:56 pm

BigGee wrote:https://www.glasgowwarriors.org/news/guinness-pro14-announce-new-structure-for-conclusion-of-2020/21-season

So no play offs this year with just a straight shot out between the top sides from each conference.

After that it is a cup competition with the 4 SA sides.

We that will make the season a bit more interesting and different. Hard to see either Glasgow or Edinburgh pushing for the first final. Hopefully we will be in a stronger position for the Rainbow cup.

Isn't that a track in Mario Kart?
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Post by tigertattie on Wed 23 Dec 2020, 3:58 pm

NeilyBroon wrote:
BigGee wrote:https://www.glasgowwarriors.org/news/guinness-pro14-announce-new-structure-for-conclusion-of-2020/21-season

So no play offs this year with just a straight shot out between the top sides from each conference.

After that it is a cup competition with the 4 SA sides.

We that will make the season a bit more interesting and different. Hard to see either Glasgow or Edinburgh pushing for the first final. Hopefully we will be in a stronger position for the Rainbow cup.

Isn't that a track in Mario Kart?

No you can race on rainbow road though - Thats the last track in the special cup, mayube thats where you are getting confused

And yes Jimbo, a lrage part of my childhood was the 90s Hug
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Post by NeilyBroon on Wed 23 Dec 2020, 6:02 pm

tigertattie wrote:
NeilyBroon wrote:
BigGee wrote:https://www.glasgowwarriors.org/news/guinness-pro14-announce-new-structure-for-conclusion-of-2020/21-season

So no play offs this year with just a straight shot out between the top sides from each conference.

After that it is a cup competition with the 4 SA sides.

We that will make the season a bit more interesting and different. Hard to see either Glasgow or Edinburgh pushing for the first final. Hopefully we will be in a stronger position for the Rainbow cup.

Isn't that a track in Mario Kart?

No you can race on rainbow road though - Thats the last track in the special cup, mayube thats where you are getting confused

And yes Jimbo, a lrage part of my childhood was the 90s Hug

The shameful part is I still have mario kart!

Well there y'go then. Glasgow's hopes all pin on getting a blue shell and a bullet booster.
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Post by Anglobraveheart on Wed 23 Dec 2020, 7:44 pm

I think, pandemic allowing, that both of our pro teams should take this great opportunity to introduce the youngsters as much as possible between now and the end of the Rainbow. (Quite pleased with that!)
What do we have to lose? -
We are going to lose players over the 6N window, so we are unlikely to reach any finals in the pro 14, or, get into the top 3.
There is no point in continually picking a mix of former internationals, journeyman and stop gap loan players - all that does is waste money.
We should introduce fresh blood, get them up into the pro environment, and at least they gain some experience when the opposition may also be weakened.
If they lose all the remaining games, it doesn't matter, as the youngsters will learn and develop. They will be stronger for it, and form stronger team bonds.

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Post by RDW on Wed 23 Dec 2020, 8:19 pm

I like the idea of the Rainbow cup - it shouldn't mean the international players are playing for most of it too.

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Post by RDW on Wed 23 Dec 2020, 8:20 pm

NeilyBroon wrote:
tigertattie wrote:
NeilyBroon wrote:
BigGee wrote:https://www.glasgowwarriors.org/news/guinness-pro14-announce-new-structure-for-conclusion-of-2020/21-season

So no play offs this year with just a straight shot out between the top sides from each conference.

After that it is a cup competition with the 4 SA sides.

We that will make the season a bit more interesting and different. Hard to see either Glasgow or Edinburgh pushing for the first final. Hopefully we will be in a stronger position for the Rainbow cup.

Isn't that a track in Mario Kart?

No you can race on rainbow road though - Thats the last track in the special cup, mayube thats where you are getting confused

And yes Jimbo, a lrage part of my childhood was the 90s Hug

The shameful part is I still have mario kart!

Well there y'go then. Glasgow's hopes all pin on getting a blue shell and a bullet booster.

Post of the year

Laugh

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Post by RDW on Sun 27 Dec 2020, 9:19 pm

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/jamie-bhatti-on-why-he-had-to-leave-edinburgh/

Bhatti speaks, and gives another insight into life at Edinburgh. I feel there is a lot unsaid here, but he does say he has no ill will towards Cockerill.

He's definitely one you hope succeeds from a personal perspective, but from a rugby perspective we really can't afford to lose someone who can do a job at international level.

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Post by BigGee on Sun 27 Dec 2020, 9:56 pm

RDW wrote:https://www.rugbypass.com/news/jamie-bhatti-on-why-he-had-to-leave-edinburgh/

Bhatti speaks, and gives another insight into life at Edinburgh. I feel there is a lot unsaid here, but he does say he has no ill will towards Cockerill.

He's definitely one you hope succeeds from a personal perspective, but from a rugby perspective we really can't afford to lose someone who can do a job at international level.

A great back story, we had heard bits of it before but not that much.

I am sure he is doing the right thing in seeking pastures new, he certainly won't die wondering.

Edinburgh seem to be lining up another SA LH ftrom the Cheetahs to replace him from this February. I guess it is forward thinking as they will be loosing Schoeman to international duties from next november.

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Post by BigGee on Sun 27 Dec 2020, 10:04 pm

Rumours of James Lang to Edinburgh from Quins.

That might not be a bad move for both parties. Edinburgh badly need a 10/12, it is a weak link for them and Lang could do with being a bit closer to Tonnie's thought's if he is going to push on internationally.

Edinburgh seem to be getting on with their recruitment, while we are not hearing much in the way of rumours from Glasgow. The Healy link up has gone quiet and according to Tom English, who has Munster connections, is not happening.

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Post by RDW on Sun 27 Dec 2020, 10:14 pm

That would be a good signing.

Can hear Glasgow fans reactions already, given they're also in need of a 10/12!

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