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Post by Lowlandbrit Sat 23 Jan 2021, 3:59 pm

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Racing calendar TBC, but enough news to get us started!

Alejandro Valverde has said this will be his last season, with the Olympics as his main focus.

Jumbo-Visma announced take two for their 'three-headed monster' Tour strategy after Kruijswijk's injury prevented it last year, only for Tom Dumoulin to announce he's taking an unspecified amount of time off the day after.

WorldTour team changes:
- If you thought AG2R La Mondiale had the ultimate marmite kit before, wait until you see what they've come up with now that they're AG2R Citroën
- McLaren are gone, now we have Bahrain Victorious
- Mitchelton-Scott is now Team BikeExchange
- The place of CCC has been taken in by Intermarché–Wanty–Gobert
- NTT are now Team Qhubeka Assos
- Sunweb are now Team DSM

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Post by Lowlandbrit Tue 20 Jul 2021, 4:31 pm

Big wrote:being more cynical even if DQT don't use Cav for the Tour, if they keep him on their books they will prevent him setting a new record with somebody else's name on the shirt!  
Would he leave again though, after all this? I think it's QuickStep or retirement next year.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Tue 20 Jul 2021, 4:40 pm

Big wrote:
formerly known as Sam wrote:
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Delighted for Cavendish however, winning the green jersey and equalling Merckx in what could be his final grand tour, unlikely that Bennett will be injured against next year. 

Unlikely Bennett will be at the team next year. Jackobson might be fit again and come in though DQT might look to keep Cav for one more year. Deploy Jackobson the younger rider at the Giro and Vuelta and then have the big Cav story at the Tour. Would keep them in the public eye and keep their sponsors happy.

There might be some sense in DQT keeping Cav and sending him - being blunt he'll get their sponsors a lot of attention even if he doesn't manage to get another stage win, and 1 stage win for Cav that sets a new record might be worth more than 2/3/4 for another sprinter in terms of that coverage...   being more cynical even if DQT don't use Cav for the Tour, if they keep him on their books they will prevent him setting a new record with somebody else's name on the shirt!  

If Cav has any sort of form pre tour and DQT don't select him then they'll get a lot of negative publicity next year. Whomever they take in his place would be under a lot of pressure to deliver because what might have been will be posed in every interview.

I don't think that DQT have the climbing capacity to mount a challenge for Remco or Almeyda. They might have a crack at the Giro or Vuelta and look to use the pair plus Alaphillipe to go for stages at the other grand tours and the classics.

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Post by Azabache Tue 20 Jul 2021, 11:29 pm

The BBC-yes, thankfully they don't have the coverage-just imagine how they'd try to bring in all sorts of irrelevant "diverse" stuff-like a star rider was really "transitioning", or he was born from same sex parents etc! Though, to be fair, they did pretty good coverage of the Ride London event a while back with David Millar commentating from the back of a motor bike.

Cav-there's a body of opinion that-in deference to Eddy-he should stop now and just hold the equal record.


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Post by Big Wed 21 Jul 2021, 9:13 am

Azabache wrote:The BBC-yes, thankfully they don't have the coverage-just imagine how they'd try to bring in all sorts of irrelevant "diverse" stuff-like a star rider was really "transitioning", or he was born from same sex parents etc! Though, to be fair, they did pretty good coverage of the Ride London event a while back with David Millar commentating from the back of a motor bike.

Cav-there's a body of opinion that-in deference to Eddie-he should stop now and just hold the equal record.

There is a certain romanticism in the idea that even the specialists can only match elements of his achievements. I suspect that Cav will go if he thinks he can win though, and target other things if not. My impression is that Cav and Eddie get on well enough and I'm sure both will be happy with their achievements either way.

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Post by Azabache Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:21 pm

Yes, I don't think there's any suggestion that Eddy wants the clock to stop with his era, and he seems big-hearted and philosophical enough to welcome his record being broken. It's just that we are not really comparing like with like-in terms of types of stage, types of bike/team support/nutrition/clothing etc., and comparable "active" periods.

I recall similar debates when Virenque beat Bahamontes's KOM record.

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Post by No name Bertie Thu 22 Jul 2021, 11:48 am

The BBC is supposed to be neutral but they focus their sports news coverage on what they themselves are able to broadcast (live television coverage, highlights, live radio) - which appears on their main sports pages as well as main news pages.   Sports such as cycling is consigned to their minor sport pages with very little sports news coverage in general.

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Post by No name Bertie Thu 22 Jul 2021, 12:00 pm

Pogacar aged 22 has already won 6 TdF stages and two TdF yellow jerseys, two TdF king of the mountain jerseys and two TdF white jerseys. Some are saying he and possibly Remco Evenepoel could be "better" than Eddy Merckx. Evenepoel is only 21 but had a serious accident in 2020 and it is unclear whether he can sustain the promise he showed prior to that accident.

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Post by Soul Requiem Thu 22 Jul 2021, 12:07 pm

I've not found that to be true of the BBC at all. The Tour is always reported on it's main page often as the headline story unless football, cricket or rugby is on, the Giro is also widely reported.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 24 Jul 2021, 10:31 am

Great win for Carapaz in the Olympic Road Race - Van Aert looked strong, but Pogacar struggled in the heat to break anyone on the climbs (McNulty and Woods were able to ride with him easily)
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Post by Lowlandbrit Sun 25 Jul 2021, 9:43 am

Anna Kiesenhofer wins the women's race from the breakaway, van Vleuten caught on camera afterwards saying she didn't realise there was still someone ahead. No earpieces at the Olympics...

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Post by Soul Requiem Sun 25 Jul 2021, 9:55 am

Lowlandbrit wrote:Anna Kiesenhofer wins the women's race from the breakaway, van Vleuten caught on camera afterwards saying she didn't realise there was still someone ahead. No earpieces at the Olympics...

That's the way it should be at all races.

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Post by dummy_half Mon 26 Jul 2021, 3:06 pm

Tom Pidcock is a very good bike racer.

Cyclo cross world medallist at 21 (behind van der Poel and van Aert), won a semi-classic and came within a hair of winning the Amstel Gold on the road and now winning World Cup and Olympic mountain bike races.

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Post by Lowlandbrit Mon 26 Jul 2021, 3:45 pm

Fantastic from Pidcock, more mix-up based disappointment for the Dutch team as MvdP crashed out heavily because he didn't realise a plank was only there for the recon laps.

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